#: 21301 S1/General Interest 12-Dec-95 23:18:36 Sb: #21265-#OS9 lives on... Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204 (X) Hi! As a matter of fact, both Mike Haaland and myself are currently working for a major company creating the software for the first widespread interactive television settop boxes... and yep, we're using DAVID. best - kevin There is 1 Reply. #: 21302 S1/General Interest 13-Dec-95 14:36:44 Sb: #21301-#OS9 lives on... Fm: Craig German 72752,2336 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Kevin, Just curiously, who do you work for? My company, Interactive Engines, built the user interface for TELE-TV's Stargazer project on Stellar One Navigator 1000 boxes on DAVID. We also have other projects we've done on the Stellar box. We're always interested in what others are doing on DAVID. Craig German There is 1 Reply. #: 21306 S1/General Interest 16-Dec-95 17:45:07 Sb: #21302-#OS9 lives on... Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Craig German 72752,2336 (X) Craig, We work for NYNEX in White Plains, NY (Science & Technology Division). I've read about Stargazer, of course; but have never seen it. best - kev There are 2 Replies. #: 21311 S1/General Interest 19-Dec-95 09:06:55 Sb: #21306-#OS9 lives on... Fm: Craig German 72752,2336 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Kevin, How's that development going? My company came in to talk to Gene Miller, Michal Szwarc, and Samit Chatterjee in July of this year. Sounded like you guys had a very ambitious plan. I'd be interested in corresponding with you, if that's all right. Regards, Craig German There is 1 Reply. #: 21314 S1/General Interest 19-Dec-95 19:04:05 Sb: #21311-OS9 lives on... Fm: George Pifer 72521,1545 To: Craig German 72752,2336 (X) Craig: Joe Briggs was scheduled to meet with you today concerning use of a run-time engine for the Korea Telecom ITV project. Did he happen to get to your location today? As you probably know deployment is rather soon so we're hoping to hear some feedback quickly. George Bescom #: 21312 S1/General Interest 19-Dec-95 10:22:53 Sb: #21306-#OS9 lives on... Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) > We work for NYNEX in White Plains, NY (Science & Technology Division). > So Kev .... You've left Colorado? Or have you taken to telecommuting? *- Steve -* There is 1 Reply. #: 21318 S1/General Interest 22-Dec-95 18:50:24 Sb: #21312-OS9 lives on... Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Steve, I still have my house in Denver (a friend is housesitting it), but both Mike H and myself are living here in White Plains NY for at least the next six months while we work on this project. We're having a blast. One of the first things we did was to port the FLI player from the MM/1 to the settop box . best - kev #: 21297 S1/General Interest 09-Dec-95 18:31:16 Sb: #21292-CoCo xfer problems Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: John L. Wilkerson Jr. 71140,77 (X) John, There's no reason why it _still_ shouldn't work. Judging from the terminal programs you've mentioned, I'm guessing you're using xmodem or ymodem protocols for transferring files. If you're having better luck with sz/rz, I'm betting it's with ASCII files. Sounds like terminal settings. Set your terminal program to 8bits 1 stop and no parity. Next ... let's check your CompuServe terminal settings. Log on and at the first prompt you get, type PRO and hit return. This will drop you into a "command mode" area. Then, issue the command TER PAR (short for terminal parameters) and hit return. Pay close attention to what your parity setting is set to. Mine is NONE. That done, move to a forum library and attempt to download a file with xmodem protocol. If that works, move up to xmodem1K and ymodem. Keep in mind some systems (and some terminal programs mix these two up.) Let us know what happens. *- Steve -* #: 21298 S1/General Interest 09-Dec-95 20:12:05 Sb: #21296-#F-Keys under Termcap Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) No easy way... If you use the curses package, it has built in support for this. What it does is set up a binary tree (or is it a try??) which contains the codes for the f-keys and other special keys. Input is parsed though a lookup and translated to special values for these keys (as I recall they are 16 bit values > 256). It is easy enuf to do similar things without using curses. Matter of fact, Ved needs to do the same kind of trick when reading keys. There is 1 Reply. #: 21299 S1/General Interest 10-Dec-95 13:15:11 Sb: #21298-#F-Keys under Termcap Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) > No easy way... Yes, I've been playing around with it and you're right.. > If you use the curses package, it has built in support for this. I've _got_ to find that thing.. Haven't been able to find it yet. I'll check RTSI.COM out and see if it's there... We don't have the real thing here. > Input is parsed though a lookup and > translated to special values for these keys (as I recall they are 16 bit > values > 256). It is easy enuf to do similar things without using curses. Yes, it's just a matter of doing it. My idea is to read in the termcap values, then try to do a tputs().. > Matter of fact, Ved needs to do the same kind of trick when reading keys. Yah, I figured you might have been through this if not in ved, then somewhere else.. BTW.. I'm having to do some "re-learning" in ved. I had not remapped many of my commands onto the function keys, and I did that the other day so now, I keep wanting to hit that ESC key I don't remember if I explained what I was doing with the function keys. I got signed up with my "expensive" server. It is a Sun system, and uses the Sun function key mapping.. which my termcap gives only f1-4, but these are given the same as for vt100. They use the F-Keys for Help, Display Commands, chd (on some menus at least), and Exit. I can type in the combinations quickly and get results, I may just live with that for a while. My server allows for a text-based system, it provides Lynx and Pine for us automatically. I had hoped to use the system for telnetting here and to Delphi, but one problem has arisen with that, it seems. I use InfoXpress, and if someone sends me a binary file in email, I fear that it will be a problem. Normally ix starts to read a file, and I assume that if it encounters binary data, it aborts and then downloads it. However, what is liable to happen is that it will start the dload, and either the data will be converted to ascii - no 8-bit xmit on Internet, right? and either ix will dload a corrupted file and then delete the original.. Am I right on this. From the looks of your posts, I assume you don't use ix, but if so, how do you handle it? I would really hate to give up ix, now that I have become spoiled by it. The traffic here is bearable, but I have been reading some forums that need something like this. It just makes things soooooo easy... Thanks for your response, Bob. I'll work on my connect some more. To tell the truth, now that I have Web access, I may throw in the towel and get a system to do the graphics.. My curiosity is about to get the best of me... -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** There is 1 Reply. #: 21300 S1/General Interest 11-Dec-95 22:24:36 Sb: #21299-#F-Keys under Termcap Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) I think that if you do a cis session via ix and the internet then ix will fork 'telnet' on the host. Then it is just like a hard link between your computer and cis...the host becomes invisible. If you have trouble uploading you'll have to enable the -E flag for telnet which disables the interupt character. Downloading should work fine. Yes, this is a 8 bit world...I think the only thing which isn't is internet mail. Mind you, I see the occasional piece of mail with IBM gfx characters in it, so I suppose that some of that is 8bit too. There is 1 Reply. #: 21303 S1/General Interest 13-Dec-95 23:44:55 Sb: #21300-F-Keys under Termcap Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) > I think that if you do a cis session via ix and the internet then ix will > fork 'telnet' on the host. Do you mean IX will do it on its own? Getting my assumption from a recent message from Bill Dickhaus, Message #21230, that you need to do this with a logon script. > Then it is just like a hard link between your > computer and cis...the host becomes invisible. The host we use is a menu-driven system in text mode. I have not ironed out all the nuances of it yet. > Yes, this is a 8 bit world...I think the only thing which isn't is > internet mail. I didn't know that. I thought about all internet stuff was 7-bit. I didn't really know how the FTP stuff was handled. I assumed it was sort of an automatic encode-decode thing between the sites. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 21319 S1/General Interest 22-Dec-95 23:35:46 Sb: CIS HMI only, no ASCII Fm: John Murphy 73077,2305 To: All I've uploaded CISHMI.FAQ to lib 1 which us a document that covers Compuserve's recent decision to eliminate ASCII access. The short version is that we're not dead yet. Old 8 bit forums, and some DOS etc. forums will continue to be hosted on the existing platforms. This means terminal emulation or ASCII access will be around for as long as there is a demand for it. USE IT OR LOSE IT, literally. john Murphy 73077,2305 #: 21321 S1/General Interest 31-Dec-95 22:24:24 Sb: Happy New Year Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 To: All Dear Friends: Once again another year comes to an end. I am grateful for all of you in the OS-9 Community and your allowing me to be a part of it. May the new year be a year of peace, health and happiness for you and those near and dear to you. WIth all best wishes for 1996, Brother Jeremy, CSJW OS9 Users Group Treasurer #: 21323 S1/General Interest 01-Jan-96 12:47:34 Sb: #Terminal Program Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 To: All OK, so it is going to be difficult, and eventually impossible, to use CIS with a CoCo or any other OS9 machine. That leaves the internet. I can log on to the net with a shell account, but it expects an ANSI or, at the very least, VT-100 terminal. Anyone know of, or willing to write, a suitable terminal program for OS9/OSK? The combination of ANSI terminal with a program like TIN (running on your server) would at least give newsgroup access to the OS9 community. STerm doesn't work, at least with my server, who doesn't allow the choice of terminal type. But I understand that even for those that do, the standard programs like lynx, tin, pine, etc. need a cursor-addressible terminal. Ian There is 1 Reply. #: 21326 S1/General Interest 02-Jan-96 19:38:26 Sb: #21323-Terminal Program Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X) > OK, so it is going to be difficult, and eventually impossible, to use CIS > with a CoCo or any other OS9 machine. That leaves the internet. From what I'm getting, it appears that _some_ forums will maybe remain ASCII for a while. I would think that the OS9 and CoCo forums would hold out as long as they can. > I can log on to the net with a shell account, but it expects an ANSI or, > at the very least, VT-100 terminal. Anyone know of, or willing to write, a > suitable terminal program for OS9/OSK? The combination of ANSI terminal > with a program like TIN (running on your server) would at least give > newsgroup access to the OS9 community. > STerm doesn't work, at least with my server, who doesn't allow the choice > of terminal type. Maybe I hit it lucky, my server is set up for vt100. My system, operating under G-Windows, does vt100 by default, so it works quite well. Of course, it does not support colors, but I can live with that for now. Isn't there a "vt100" program somewhere? It seems like I saw it somewhere once.. > But I understand that even for those that do, the > standard programs like lynx, tin, pine, etc. need a cursor-addressible > terminal. I patched in Sterm to do the function keys. My arrow keys work, so that helped some, but the Tin and Pine programs that my server use allow for using control keys and regular keys for lots of the functions. I think one allows maybe the "j" key to do the job of the down-arrow (I think). -- David Breeding -- CIS 72330,2051 Delphi DBREEDING dbreeding@cumberland.com dbree@bnllc2.blue.net Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 #: 21327 S1/General Interest 03-Jan-96 04:41:08 Sb: OS-9 Simulation Library Fm: Holger Oelschlaeger 100275,2660 To: sysop (X) Hi, we are doing a simulation library for OS-9 system calls running under Solaris. To avoid work I would like to know does such a library already exist (perhaps for other UNIX operating systems) ?. Regards Holger #: 21329 S1/General Interest 05-Jan-96 14:53:54 Sb: hi Fm: Jim Vestal 103037,2655 To: all replace Hi All ... passing through again... A quick reply to Ian Hodges who asked about vt100 under os9. You are in luck if you use a CoCo, after 6 years Vaughn Cata has upgraded OSTERM. You can ftp it from os9archive.rtsi.com, the latest version I think is 2.11. OSTERM now supports full vt100 and works rather smoth. To Richard Crislip: I also have an Amiga in addition to my CoCo 3, leave me email and let me know about your Amiga. Jim jev@cis.compuserve.com jev@pobox.com replace #: 21334 S1/General Interest 13-Jan-96 17:55:00 Sb: AR source Fm: John Carter 72236,154 To: sysop (X) Is there a definition of the format of .AR files somewhere in the forum, or even better, an ascii source file (C, BASIC09, etc)? Thanks, John Carter #: 21338 S1/General Interest 23-Jan-96 16:39:49 Sb: What`s OS/9 ? Fm: Hui Richard 101535,1546 To: All Help please, what`s please is OS/9 ?! Thanks for all !! #: 21348 S1/General Interest 30-Jan-96 01:40:46 Sb: #21228-Ram Pak Fm: Michael E. Ward 103501,2361 To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 Jeremy, It seems no one has replied to you, so I'll give it a shot: I DON"T have a RamPack for sale, But (somewhere around here) I DO have the Tony Distefano Book that describes how to build it. As for the software, Can't help there, but maybe SYSop can point you to it. M.Ward #: 21343 S1/General Interest 24-Jan-96 23:00:28 Sb: #21338-What`s OS/9 ? Fm: Alan Nichols 72411,3060 To: Hui Richard 101535,1546 OS-9 is a real time operating system. It is used quite a bit in industrial controllers and is apparently more popular with European manf than U.S. firms. It runs primarily on Motorola processors (6800 series, 68000 series) but has been ported to Mac and Intel (PC). The originator is Microware, Inc. in Des Moines, Iowa. Regards, Alan #: 21344 S1/General Interest 25-Jan-96 10:28:30 Sb: #21338-What`s OS/9 ? Fm: Richard E. Crislip 102746,407 To: Hui Richard 101535,1546 OS9 is a UNIX like multitasking operating system that will run on just about any computer. It was the operating of the Space Shuttle (don't know if it still is). I was first intruduced to it with the Radio Shack Color Computer 3. That "toy" computer when ran under OS9 level 2 was a true interrupt driven multitasking platform during the days of $2,000+ 8088 PC that couldn't even dream of multitasking. Today OS9 lives in PC's, Ataris and any other computer that wants to use it. It was written by and still supported by MicroWare. The operating system is primarily used in automated manufacturing environments, places that aren't glamorus (like the Space Shuttle) but necessary. That is an overview. Hopefully some techie will be able to fillin some of the details 8-). _|_ Cruisen on AutoPilot ----O---- R.E.C. #: 21347 S1/General Interest 29-Jan-96 20:24:30 Sb: Who Uses OS-9 and CoCo Fm: Michael F. Trombley 103545,3054 To: all Is there anybody out there who uses the Color Computer and / or OS-9? Please E-Mail me I am interested. #: 21350 S1/General Interest 02-Feb-96 13:59:53 Sb: bye Fm: Jim Vestal 103037,2655 To: all Hi all. As much as I would like to keep this account I have decided that it was no longer worth $10 a month. There are so little activity in this forum that I barely use 1 our of (one out of) the five hours per month. And Compuserve is now moving all their services to the GUI based system that I won't be able to access with eithor my CoCo or my Amiga. I enjoyed my visit here to past few months and if this forum is still here later in the year I may come back for a short visit. You can contact me via email at jev@pobox.com or visit my web site at http://pobox.com/~jev. You can also visit my ftp site at: ftp://oro.net/home/jevestal Thanks, Jim Vestal, of 09-Online Systems assistant editor of the OS-9 Underground Cyberzine http://val.net/~zog #: 21351 S1/General Interest 03-Feb-96 22:20:00 Sb: #What is OS9? Fm: Andy Weed 76555,231 To: ALL I've heard of OS9 over the years and now I'm using Phillips DVI machines which use it. Can someone give me the basics about this opperating system? It it similar or derived from UNIX? -Andy There is 1 Reply. #: 21363 S1/General Interest 07-Feb-96 11:59:02 Sb: #21351-What is OS9? Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Andy Weed 76555,231 Hi Andy, There's a file called OS9FAQ.TXT in Library 1 you can look at. Philips CD-i players also use OS-9, as do many of the coming interactive settop TV boxes. It's also heavily used in industrial controllers, such as factory line supervision, suspension bridge monitoring, and even Disney rides. It's native file system and many of its path operations seem to be derived from Unix, but the OS itself really isn't. When it first came out about 16 years ago it already had much of what is considered "new" today... microkernel, loadable device drivers, modularity, ROMmability, etc. Ask away if you have more questions. best - kevin #: 21357 S1/General Interest 06-Feb-96 12:03:35 Sb: OS9MAXIM.ARJ Fm: DTR 100302,3271 To: Sysop (X) Dear Mike Ward, unfortunately I did now overwrite the OS9MAX update for OS-9 CD-ROM creating (the file name was OS9MAXIM.ARJ) Can you re-contruct the file with description or must I upload this again. Do I have to fill in the item hostname ? What is it for ? Thanks Oliver #: 21362 S1/General Interest 07-Feb-96 06:49:23 Sb: arj Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 To: tom farrow 72701,543 (X) >>Also is there any good spreadsheet out there for os9-68000 all I have is sc which sorta hangs up and then there is @now and other functions that don't really work. Thanks Tom Farrow<< There is a spreadsheet for OS-9 available from a company called RTware. It's a threedimensional spreadsheet, has much more functions than a regular spreadsheet. It'S so versatile, it can be used as an integrated programming environment to create realtime applications e.g. for control systems. It's called ControlCalc. To get more info about it, you may want to contact Rich Clarke at RTware. Their email address is: rtware@mercury.interpath.com Jost #: 21365 S1/General Interest 08-Feb-96 17:26:58 Sb: CoCo 25 line screen? Fm: John L. Wilkerson Jr. 71140,77 To: ALL I am looking for the patch or program that allows for a 25 line screen on the CoCo. Anyone know what or where it can be found? #: 21385 S1/General Interest 07-Mar-96 01:01:38 Sb: #21373-#Who Uses OS-9 and CoCo Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 To: Richard E. Crislip 102746,407 (X) Despite the fact that I have recently moved and my computer systems are in a state of disarray I do have my COCO together and used the mail09 mailing list for my Christmas cards. Trying to interest my youngest in computers and the COCO is still an obvious starting point. Very simple machine under RSDOS, promotable to powerful operating system under OS9 (Sardis non stop controller & NITROS9 make it a smoother operating machine) Shares the desk with a TC70 (apart today) and, of course a DOS/WINDOZE (cyrix 5x86 at 100 mhz). Still play gantelet on the COCO from time to time. Still dig out old software and if I ever retire (yes, I'm almost that old, the COCO will stay as a software tinkering toy although its function there has been taken over in large part by the TC70. Wish there were more hours and that I had a larger desk. Oe thing the COCO never was - space efficient. Bob There is 1 Reply. #: 21386 S1/General Interest 11-Mar-96 10:34:01 Sb: #21385-Who Uses OS-9 and CoCo Fm: Richard E. Crislip 102746,407 To: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 Hi Bob: I too have moved and my set up is in disarray. That's why it took me sooo long to respond. BUT, I understand about the CoCo taking over. kinda like the old component stereos 8-) _|_ Cruisen on AutoPilot ----O---- R.E.C. #: 21375 S1/General Interest 25-Feb-96 00:32:42 Sb: os9 Fm: tom farrow 72701,543 To: general I would be interested to know if anyone has hooked up an os9 machine to a HPLC or to a Spectrophotometer with any luck. I get the dubious pleasure of working with Messy Dos at my work place. I think that Gwindows would be a good platform to hook up to a HPLC. Also under Gwindows does the mouse work well with Umacs for all or am doing some thing differently than I should? I eagerly await responce. Thanks in advance for all the help Tom F #: 21393 S1/General Interest 21-Mar-96 17:41:37 Sb: #Help Needed Fm: Simon Gudgeon 101600,3227 To: ALL Can any one help me ? I have a large Multi-National client based in Holland, which is currently recruiting for Senior OS/9 Software Engineers - they are also very interested in anybody with PSOS knowledge. These are either long term contract and/or Permanent positions . If there is any one who can help / or is interested please respond ASAP to:- Simon Gudgeon Phone: + 44 1376 342215 / Fax: + 44 1376 342217 Email: 101600.3227@compuserve.com There is 1 Reply. #: 21408 S1/General Interest 18-Apr-96 01:10:49 Sb: #21393-Help Needed Fm: Yvan Borcard 100140,675 To: Simon Gudgeon 101600,3227 HI Simon, I am senior automation specialist (4 years experience with OS-9 system) in automation field.If still looking for ressources do not hesitate to contact me. Ivan #: 21394 S1/General Interest 25-Mar-96 21:19:13 Sb: #Looking for Brain White Fm: Allan 70506,1173 To: all Greetings I am looking for Brian White formally(bcwhite@sunee.waterloo.ca). Or does anyone have a copy of rcs4 for OS9? The copy on os9archive is corrupt as reported by a user and verified by me(sysop). I would like to relace it w a good version. Please email me with Brains new email address or ftp a copy to the os9archive.rtsi.com. Thanks Allan R. Batteiger arb@rtsi.com There is 1 Reply. #: 21397 S1/General Interest 30-Mar-96 18:07:00 Sb: #21394-Looking for Brain White Fm: Alptekin Aydogan 100527,324 To: Allan 70506,1173 Allan, >> Brian White formally(bcwhite@sunee.waterloo.ca) << >>Brains new email address<< I'm not so sure, but I mean I saw messages re: this in some emacs-news-groups recently. Unfortunately I've deleted them already, so I can't help you at the moment. Alptekin #: 21409 S1/General Interest 19-Apr-96 21:10:02 Sb: #ddx Fm: tom farrow 72701,543 To: all Does anyone use DDX on system iv? If you then let me know how, and can you do it with Gwindows? Thanks Tom There is 1 Reply. #: 21410 S1/General Interest 20-Apr-96 10:54:24 Sb: #21409-ddx Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: tom farrow 72701,543 > Does anyone use DDX on system iv? If you then let me know how, and can you > do it with Gwindows? Thanks Tom I guess if I have to ask, I will be of no help, but what's DDX? -- David Breeding -- CIS 72330,2051 | Delphi DBREEDING | dbree@duo-county.com Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 #: 21411 S1/General Interest 21-Apr-96 11:21:02 Sb: #21410-#ddx Fm: tom farrow 72701,543 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) ddx is a program by pagan which is like a roladex and runs with termcap. my machine don't like termcap entries most of { the time it w {orks ok, but othertimes it don't. { help!!!! { There is 1 Reply. #: 21416 S1/General Interest 28-Apr-96 11:17:03 Sb: #21411-ddx Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: tom farrow 72701,543 (X) > ddx is a program by pagan which is like a roladex and runs with termcap. OK, I think I've seen that program advertised. > my machine don't like termcap entries most of { the time it w {orks ok, > but othertimes it don't. { help!!!! { Do you have good termcap entries? Are you running from /term or G-Windows? I've found that under G-Windows, a few programs, termcaps or terminfo's, one, don't produce linefeeds but do under /term. Perhaps it is something like this? -- David Breeding -- CIS 72330,2051 | Delphi DBREEDING | dbree@duo-county.com Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 #: 21414 S1/General Interest 24-Apr-96 21:02:49 Sb: OS9205.ZIP R/W OS9 on PC Fm: John Murphy 73077,2305 To: ALL I've uploaded OS9205.ZIP to the following services and BBS's. Compuserve, OS-9 forum, lib 9 Delphi, OS-9 sig, New Arrivals MECCO, 1-613-723-6537, area 3 Ocean Beach, 1-619-224-4878, OSK Utilities ftp://os9archive.rtsi.com/OS9/incoming/coco OS9205.ZIP OS9.EXE v2.05 Read / Write COCO OS-9 floppies on a PC. Requires a PC and DOS. Includes source. Author: Carey Bloodworth U/L: John Murphy jmurphy@delphi.com 73077.2305@compuserve.com #: 21417 S1/General Interest 07-May-96 12:34:06 Sb: #Windows 95 praise? Fm: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204 To: ALL I recently had a long chat with a close friend about operating systems. He has always been a MSDOS junkie, even had the courage to have bought a PC Jr when it became available. Well, he started to talk about Windows 95 wonders: True multitasking environment Multi-thread operations and so on... I remembered that about 5 or 6 years ago we had a similar conversation when he was installing a computer network in the radio stations where I work at. I mentioned OS9 could do the same work he was projecting and a lot cheaper and with less hassle. He was shocked! (more of a rage attack I'd say). I recall he told me: "Why would we want to multitask? I can't even think in a multi-task way, how would we program?". Well, that ended there. This time though, while he was praising W95, he commented something about multi-threading. I said that OS9 also worked by establishing separate processes and that these could work on their own and call other processes.... He told me, "Well, then it should be like W95. Unix works that way too". I had to restrain myself into taking him into the room where my CoCo 3 is installed, after all, I want to ease the shock on him after I show him what I can do with an investment of less than $500.00. He had to soup up his 486DX50 memory and HD for W95.... lost love for a few bucks in the process ;-) Please comment on this! Rogelio Perea There is 1 Reply. #: 21418 S1/General Interest 08-May-96 00:20:39 Sb: #21417-Windows 95 praise? Fm: Jochen Terasa 100421,2472 To: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204 Rogelio, >> "Why would we want to multitask? I can't even think in a multi-task way, how would we program?" << Each Software has many tasks in the sense of "many things to do". So if we can't think in a multitask way, why not program one task after another? I think the main difference between OS like OS-9 and others like WIN95 are t5heir target groups. With the first one you can efficiently solve the problem, what a program has to do. So you have the machine in the foreground. With the second one you can efficiently solve the problems that an online user has with computers. From this point of view there is no machine anymore, but only a user that is frightend of it -Joachim Terasa #: 21419 S1/General Interest 10-May-96 04:05:25 Sb: Intersolv PVCS & FasTrak Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277 To: All It used to be that Microware and Intersolv supported each other, but for "political reasons", I heard, no more. Since I have to used both products, I wonder if anybody has edited the vcscap file of FasTrak to include PVCS. It doesn't look like it is all that hard to do, but I'd like to save myself the trouble if it has been done before... #: 21420 S1/General Interest 27-May-96 00:32:57 Sb: OS-9000 gcc Fm: Michael L. Smith 72762,3375 To: all Is any one aware of a gcc port to OS-9000? #: 21422 S1/General Interest 03-Jun-96 07:11:25 Sb: Math.l problems Fm: jmb 100663,2440 To: all Hi, The math.l library I use converts floats to double before computing floating point calculations. Would you mind sending me a MATH.L file that directly compute on floats or the source code of this standard library. Many Thanks. #: 21420 S1/General Interest 27-May-96 00:32:57 Sb: OS-9000 gcc Fm: Michael L. Smith 72762,3375 To: all Is any one aware of a gcc port to OS-9000? #: 21422 S1/General Interest 03-Jun-96 07:11:25 Sb: Math.l problems Fm: jmb 100663,2440 To: all Hi, The math.l library I use converts floats to double before computing floating point calculations. Would you mind sending me a MATH.L file that directly compute on floats or the source code of this standard library. Many Thanks. #: 21438 S1/General Interest 12-Jul-96 07:15:24 Sb: Web Browser For OS-9 ? Fm: Marc Tritschler 100344,2706 To: sysop (X) Is there anyone out there who can tell me if anyone has developed or is developing a Web browser that will run on OS-9 machines with GUI's e.g. the MGR GUI. I would be even more impressed if a java enabled browser could be sourced. Thanks in anticipation, Marc. #: 21439 S1/General Interest 12-Jul-96 11:43:01 Sb: elect. compass sensor Fm: Kamru Miah 100534,575 To: all Hi, Is there anyone coming from an electronics/instrumentation background? Do you know of an electronic (fluxgate) sensor which can detect the earth's magnetic field and provide a signal which can be interfaces to a microprocessor. Autopilots in navigation systems use them a lot, but I am looking for a miniture/low cost type suitable for portable applications. If you are a supplier/manufacturer, please send me a data-sheet with price and availability in UK. If you know of any published articles - please send me the full reference. Thank you. -Kamru #: 21438 S1/General Interest 12-Jul-96 07:15:24 Sb: #Web Browser For OS-9 ? Fm: Marc Tritschler 100344,2706 To: sysop (X) Is there anyone out there who can tell me if anyone has developed or is developing a Web browser that will run on OS-9 machines with GUI's e.g. the MGR GUI. I would be even more impressed if a java enabled browser could be sourced. Thanks in anticipation, Marc. There is 1 Reply. #: 21442 S1/General Interest 31-Jul-96 20:21:27 Sb: #21438-#Web Browser For OS-9 ? Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: Marc Tritschler 100344,2706 Marc, I read in last weeks Sunday paper (7/28/96) about a Japanese IBM computer running OS9. The article didn't go into any detail. It mentioned two IBM Japanese machines. One is a "1.5 pound portable computer designed to make Internet cruising as easy as writing a letter to mom." The other is "a small notebook that will communicate, without telephone wires, with centralized computers." One runs Windows and the other "uses an old and nearly unknown operating system called OS9" I don't know which computer runs which nor do I know if the witer (a local guy) knows what he is talking about. Imagine my surprise when I saw 'OS9' in this article. Frank Hogg There is 1 Reply. #: 21443 S1/General Interest 31-Jul-96 22:41:15 Sb: #21442-#Web Browser For OS-9 ? Fm: Richard E. Crislip 102746,407 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) Hi Frank; It's good seeing your name again 8-). I'm an old CoCo user and a former customer (Sculpture). I loved the proggram and would love a SCSI interface to the CoCo to hook up a HD. Any suggestion? _|_ Cruisen on AutoPilot ----O---- R.E.C. There is 1 Reply. #: 21445 S1/General Interest 05-Aug-96 18:09:42 Sb: #21443-#Web Browser For OS-9 ? Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: Richard E. Crislip 102746,407 (X) Hi Rich. >love a SCSI interface to the CoCo to hook up a HD. Can't help there but sometime in the near/far, depending when I find time future, I will be posting a list of stuff I have for sale. From CoCo to OSK stuff. I don't expect to get very much money for it so I am planning to package it in bundles (whatever fits in the box etc) so that each 'bundle' would be worth $50 or so. Otherwise it's not worth bothering with. I have a large amount of stuff. Please don't ask for specific stuff until I get to sorting it all out. I'll post the list here... sometime. Thanks for asking. Frank There is 1 Reply. #: 21446 S1/General Interest 06-Aug-96 09:49:30 Sb: #21445-#Web Browser For OS-9 ? Fm: Richard E. Crislip 102746,407 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) I'll be waiting with bated breath 8-). I check this and the CoCo forum almost daily. _|_ Cruisen on AutoPilot ----O---- R.E.C. There is 1 Reply. #: 21447 S1/General Interest 10-Aug-96 21:29:54 Sb: #21446-#Web Browser For OS-9 ? Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: Richard E. Crislip 102746,407 (X) Re: >I have a large amount of stuff. Change that to "I have a very large amount of stuff." I just spent several hours in the garage just trying to do a rough sort. Jeeesh the amount of crap you can collect when your not looking... Frank There is 1 Reply. #: 21448 S1/General Interest 12-Aug-96 09:04:48 Sb: #21447-Web Browser For OS-9 ? Fm: Richard E. Crislip 102746,407 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 Hi Frank, I just moved.... I KNOW EXACTLY what you mean 8-(. We spent $300.00+ in shelving material to store what we kept. I mean lt's just unreal what we accumulate through the years. In computer terms alone I have 2 complete C-64's, 2 CoCo's (one 2 and one 3; complete with floppy drives), and 5 Amigas (2 big box and 3 A500's). I won't even into get into the boy's game consoles. Add to that the other miscellaneous junk the average American household collects and you have a train load 8-\. BUT.. That doesn't mean I won't help you get rid of some of yours . _|_ Cruisen on AutoPilot ----O---- R.E.C. #: 21439 S1/General Interest 12-Jul-96 11:43:01 Sb: elect. compass sensor Fm: Kamru Miah 100534,575 To: all Hi, Is there anyone coming from an electronics/instrumentation background? Do you know of an electronic (fluxgate) sensor which can detect the earth's magnetic field and provide a signal which can be interfaces to a microprocessor. Autopilots in navigation systems use them a lot, but I am looking for a miniture/low cost type suitable for portable applications. If you are a supplier/manufacturer, please send me a data-sheet with price and availability in UK. If you know of any published articles - please send me the full reference. Thank you. -Kamru #: 21478 S1/General Interest 22-Sep-96 16:30:05 Sb: #CoCo Items for Sale Fm: Chuck Watters 70115,536 To: All COCO - Items for Sale I have the following CoCo items for sale. All sales will be COD (including shipping from Erie Pa.). I will accept offers at prices below those listed below until 11/1/96, but anything not sold by that date will be scraped or donated to a local CoCo club. Hardware: Floppy Drive 1. FS-502 (RS 26-502) Floppy drive with drives 0 & 1. Includes RS controller (RS FS-502)plus Vinyl Cover, and manual ...........$50.00 Monitors 2. Model BM7622 074B Magnavox Amber Monochrome Monitor with Video and Sound Cable which plugs into COCO3 .................$40.00 Printers 3. DMP-200 (RS 26-1254) Includes Vinyl dusk cover, Serial Cable, and Manual. This printer handles both text and graphics. ......................................$75.00 Modems 4. 300 Baud Modem I (RS 26-1172) ................$5.00 5. 1200 Baud BSR Modem ..........................$7.50 Miscellaneous 6. a. Deluxe Pistol Grip Joystick (RS26-3123)..$4 b.4 ea. Joysticks (RS26-3008) $2ea. c.2 ea. H.Res Jystk interfaces (RS26-3028)..$3 ea. d. Hawksoft Duel H.Res Jystk interface $8 e.2 ea. Color Mouse (RS26-3025)...$8 ea. f. 2 EA. Monitor Platforms $2 ea. g. 2 ea. Serial/parallel printer adapters ..$10 ea. h. 2 ea. power strips with surge protectors.$1 ea. i. RS 232 Cartridge (RS 26-2226) $15 j. CTR-80A Cassette Player (with cable) $10 Book: Start OS-9 by Paul Ward. Included is a floppy disk used with the book. - $5 Charles Watters CIS 70115,536 AOL CKWSR or EMail ckwsr@aol.com Prodigy DDSY34A Voice (Mon-Fri 8-5 EDT) 814-838-3835 FAX: 814-838-6596 There is 1 Reply. #: 21479 S1/General Interest 24-Sep-96 01:19:44 Sb: #21478-#CoCo Items for Sale Fm: Derek Bracey 103442,3315 To: Chuck Watters 70115,536 (X) I would like to buy the following: 2 Color Mice $16 Hawksoft Dual Hi-Res $ 8 Serial to Parallel Printer Adp. $10 Total $34 + shipping (cheap as possible, I'm in no rush). COD is fine with me. My address: 611 38th St. S. Apt. I Birmingham, AL 35222 Thank you for the offer. There is 1 Reply. #: 21481 S1/General Interest 03-Oct-96 17:12:59 Sb: #21479-CoCo Items for Sale Fm: Chuck Watters 70115,536 To: Derek Bracey 103442,3315 (X) Derek Thanks for your message. I will bundle up the items and ship them to you via UPS ground. I will post a mail message to you when they ship. Chuck #: 21480 S1/General Interest 02-Oct-96 15:32:40 Sb: Time to go Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76 To: all Hi all! The time has come (after what, 15 years?) to give up my CIS account. I don't get on here often any more so it is silly to keep it. I can be reached at the addresses below if anyone has occasion to do so. I don't mind if you share these addresses with anyone else who might care :) Carl Kreider aka [carlk|root]@syscon-intl.com (219) 232-3900 Ext 207 ckreider@qtm.net 71076.76@compuserve.com #: 21478 S1/General Interest 22-Sep-96 16:30:05 Sb: #CoCo Items for Sale Fm: Chuck Watters 70115,536 To: All COCO - Items for Sale I have the following CoCo items for sale. All sales will be COD (including shipping from Erie Pa.). I will accept offers at prices below those listed below until 11/1/96, but anything not sold by that date will be scraped or donated to a local CoCo club. Hardware: Floppy Drive 1. FS-502 (RS 26-502) Floppy drive with drives 0 & 1. Includes RS controller (RS FS-502)plus Vinyl Cover, and manual ...........$50.00 Monitors 2. Model BM7622 074B Magnavox Amber Monochrome Monitor with Video and Sound Cable which plugs into COCO3 .................$40.00 Printers 3. DMP-200 (RS 26-1254) Includes Vinyl dusk cover, Serial Cable, and Manual. This printer handles both text and graphics. ......................................$75.00 Modems 4. 300 Baud Modem I (RS 26-1172) ................$5.00 5. 1200 Baud BSR Modem ..........................$7.50 Miscellaneous 6. a. Deluxe Pistol Grip Joystick (RS26-3123)..$4 b.4 ea. Joysticks (RS26-3008) $2ea. c.2 ea. H.Res Jystk interfaces (RS26-3028)..$3 ea. d. Hawksoft Duel H.Res Jystk interface $8 e.2 ea. Color Mouse (RS26-3025)...$8 ea. f. 2 EA. Monitor Platforms $2 ea. g. 2 ea. Serial/parallel printer adapters ..$10 ea. h. 2 ea. power strips with surge protectors.$1 ea. i. RS 232 Cartridge (RS 26-2226) $15 j. CTR-80A Cassette Player (with cable) $10 Book: Strles Watters CIS 70115,536 AOL CKWSR or EMail ckwsr@aol.com Prodigy DDSY34A Voice (Mon-Fri 8-5 EDT) 814-838-3835 FAX: 814-838-6596 There is 1 Reply. #: 21479 S1/General Interest 24-Sep-96 01:19:44 Sb: #21478-#CoCo Items for Sale Fm: Derek Bracey 103442,3315 To: Chuck Watters 70115,536 (X) I would like to buy the following: 2 Color Mice $16 Hawksoft Dual Hi-Res $ 8 Serial to Parallel Printer Adp. $10 Total $34 + shipping (cheap as possible, I'm in no rush). COD is fine with me. My address: 611 38th St. S. Apt. I Birmingham, AL 35222 Thank you for the offer. There is 1 Reply. #: 21481 S1/General Interest 03-Oct-96 17:12:59 Sb: #21479-CoCo Items for Sale Fm: Chuck Watters 70115,536 To: Derek Bracey 103442,3315 (X) Derek Thanks for your message. I will bundle up the items and ship them to you via UPS ground. I will post a mail message to you when they ship. Chuck #: 21480 S1/General Interest 02-Oct-96 15:32:40 Sb: Time to go Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76 To: all Hi all! The time has come (after what, 15 years?) to give up my CIS account. I don't get on here often any more so it is silly to keep it. I can be reached at the addresses below if anyone has occasion to do so. I don't mind if you share these addresses with anyone else who might care :) Carl Kreider aka [carlk|root]@syscon-intl.com (219) 232-3900 Ext 207 ckreider@qtm.net 71076.76@compuserve.com