#: 20697 S6/Applications 10-Jan-95 14:17:03 Sb: #Wanted: file-manager Fm: Axel Binsack 100326,1305 To: all Hi, I wonder if there is any FILE-MANAGER avialable for os9! My dream is a 'Norton Commander' for os9, which would make the all-day-work far easier. Further on I'm interested in an EDITOR, which allows to use the keymapping which is used in all common Microsoft-products (using shift/ctrl/del/ins keys etc. to mark and copy) and supports multi-file-sessions. Are there any good tools (professional or shareware) which help working with that operating system? Ciao, Axel There is 1 Reply. #: 20700 S6/Applications 12-Jan-95 17:32:53 Sb: #20697-#Wanted: file-manager Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Axel Binsack 100326,1305 (X) Axel, If you're thinking along the lines of a Windowish file manger, I could suggest Desktop for Kwindows. I believe Gwindows has a similar application that allows directory tree walking. As far as editors go, we have versions of umacs and vi which support key mapping. What other tools are you looking for ... and on what hardware platform do you wish to use them? *- Steve -* There is 1 Reply. #: 20703 S6/Applications 13-Jan-95 14:21:14 Sb: #20700-Wanted: file-manager Fm: Axel Binsack 100326,1305 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Hi Steve, > If you're thinking along the lines of a Windowish file manger, I could suggest Desktop for > Kwindows. I believe Gwindows has a similar application that allows directory tree walking. Where can I get these? Never heard of G- or K-Windows! > As far as editors go, we have versions of umacs and vi which support key mapping. What > other tools are you looking for ... and on what hardware platform do you wish to use them? Many editors have problems mapping the special keys (PgUp, Del, Ins etc.) of PC-keyboards. I didn't really try it with umacs and vi, but I think we have these editors in our company; I'll have a look. We work all on 680xx-processors and I'm lucky to work with an x-Terminal (x-Windows) - concerning editing I just work in VT100-emulation. Ciao, Axel #: 20709 S6/Applications 14-Jan-95 17:32:14 Sb: #20703-Wanted: file-manager Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Axel Binsack 100326,1305 (X) While both are commercial products, K-Windows is platform specific to the MM/1. THere has been talk of porting it to other platforms but I'm not sure where this stands. GWindows is better suited for cross platform support. Gespac offers it for sale. Their address is listed in the FAQ file in library 1. Look for OS9FAQ.TXT. *- Steve -* #: 20742 S6/Applications 07-Feb-95 22:23:29 Sb: DYUV Graphics Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336 To: all I'm part of a team that is developing applications for OS-9 on CD-I and for DAVID on a set-top box. We use DYUV graphics in our applications. There are several groups that would like to view these DYUV graphics on different platforms, without having expensive software packages like Debabelizer. Is anyone aware of a utility that would help? By the way, is there a Philips forum somewhere out there? Does anyone know how common DYUV is (I had no luck finding anything about DYUV in any CompuServe forum or in any Usenet News Group)? Does anyone think there should be a section in this forum about graphics? Thanks, Craig German #: 20743 S6/Applications 09-Feb-95 01:39:36 Sb: #20742-DYUV Graphics Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 Hi Craig, The personal OS-9 boxes some people use here do have one of the CD-i graphics chips, but don't have DYUV unfortunately... otherwise there'd be a bunch of utilities already written. Two places where Philips hang out are: VIDGAM (video gamers) forum and the MULTIMEDIA forum (you can also GO CDI to get there)... the latter having lots of CD-i producers. Can you tell us more about your DAVID box? At work, we've been thinking about using such technology for in-room gambling at hotels. best - kevin #: 20744 S6/Applications 09-Feb-95 01:41:01 Sb: #20742-DYUV Graphics Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 Ooops. Make that "GO CD-I" with the dash. #: 20791 S6/Applications 21-Feb-95 18:06:17 Sb: #20743-DYUV Graphics Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Kevin, Thanks for the info. I checked out Multimedia Forum (again!) and found someone who had mentioned DYUV in a message. Wish me luck! The box we're using is for Bell Atlantic's interactive video trial. It uses the CD-I chipset for graphics display. If you're interested in a vendor name, try Adaptive Microware in Ft. Wayne(?), IN. Unfortunately, I don't have the number handy, but you should probably be able to locate them without much trouble. If you can't find them under this name, try Stellar One. Craig German #: 20883 S6/Applications 01-Apr-95 01:51:12 Sb: #Ved is Great! Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Bob, Got my ved/vprint today. Haven't done much with it yet but from my limited experimenting with it, all I can say is WOW! I thought ved/coco was really great (don't have latest upgrades for it, though), but this appears to be much more potent than it. I'd been told that it was, but just didn't realize by how much (at least compared to the coco version I have). To be truthful, I'd not even used the coco version to its potential, and probably will never utilize all the features of the OSK version, but this thing looks like it's got it all. I'd thought I might want to use umacs for the C sources but from what I saw, I won't need to.. (I'd gotten to liking the tabs umacs supports, but from the docs, looks like I'll have them, too.) Thanks. (To be honest, I had not expected to get it so quickly.. it hasn't been but about a week since I sent in my order.. Really fast service). -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** There is 1 Reply. #: 20885 S6/Applications 01-Apr-95 21:35:03 Sb: #20883-#Ved is Great! Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) Well, we aim to please . Glad you like all the features, etc. Shout if you need help. There is 1 Reply. #: 20886 S6/Applications 02-Apr-95 17:59:20 Sb: #20885-Ved is Great! Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) > Well, we aim to please . Glad you like all the features, etc. Shout if > you need help. > I never dreamed that it would be this elaborate. I had imagined that I would have trouble implementing my function keys, arrow keys and all, but was rather pleasantly surprised to see that this was already taken into consideration. I've still not gotten very deeply into all the features yet (it _does_ take time). Oh, I'm using ved to type this.. I'm sure it's my imagination, but for some reason, it appears that the cursor flows more smoothly with VED. It seemed the same way on the coco, too. I implemented VED on my offline reader (ATP), too.. It seemed a little odd at first the way it came up after getting used to the way umacs came up. Haven't decided on exactly my key assignments yet.. I set the arrows, end, and obvious ones. I defined a few of the function keys to mimick the setup for umacs, to avoid confusion. I still can't get over how quickly I got it.. I was actually surprised to find it in my mailbox. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via InfoXpress/OSK - Vr. 1.02 *** #: 20951 S6/Applications 12-May-95 15:55:00 Sb: #Ved Upgrades Fm: Rick LaVallie 76653,2244 To: Bob Van der Poel/ 76510,2203 (X) I would be interested in buying any upgrades you have done to Ved and Vprint I bought the package several years ago at an 0s9 meeting at my house you probably do not remember being there,Bruce Isted and Jerry Mclary were both preasent at the time. Any way I've just installed your HDISK.AR and it seems to be working better/faster than the old one are there any other improvenments to the SCII & 4 in 1 Mods. around? - please get back to me- Rick LaVallie There is 1 Reply. #: 20954 S6/Applications 12-May-95 22:45:07 Sb: #20951-#Ved Upgrades Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Rick LaVallie 76653,2244 (X) Yes, Rick, I _do_ remember the meeting. Was fun. The latest edition numbers are: ved 2.9 vpt 2.1.6 upgrades are available to registered users for $5.00 each. Just send me or original disks in a mailer with a check and a couple of bucks for postage and I'll fire them back to you. Nice to hear from you again. There is 1 Reply. #: 20957 S6/Applications 15-May-95 07:48:20 Sb: #20954-#Ved Upgrades Fm: Rick LaVallie 76653,2244 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Hello Bob nice to here form you . I don't seem to have your mailing address anywere or at least i cannot find it could you send it to me thanks. On another subject I'm sure Bruce would like me to say Hi for him not sure if you have talked to him lately but he is on his way to the Sudan today at 18:00,should be an interesting trip. Will send my origanal VED disk to you as soon as I get your address Thanks Rick LaVallie. There is 1 Reply. #: 20960 S6/Applications 15-May-95 22:25:33 Sb: #20957-#Ved Upgrades Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Rick LaVallie 76653,2244 (X) From Canada, please send mail to: PO Box 57 Wynndel, BC V0B 2N0 No, I haven't talked to Bruce for quite some time. I was going to call him the last time I was in Calgary...but never got to it. No Time, No Time! So, is he going to do all kinds of OSK integration in the desert? There is 1 Reply. #: 20961 S6/Applications 17-May-95 10:02:08 Sb: #20960-#Ved Upgrades Fm: Rick LaVallie 76653,2244 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Thanks for the address Bob I will send this out today. Do you know where I might find an upgraded version of OSTERM I'm useing version OSTERM.142 and was hopeing there was a newer version around or even a better terminal program for the COCO. As for Bruce I do not think the desert is much of a desert this time of year more than likely he'll be playing in the mud as i believe he said it was the rainy season over there. Rick LaVallie There is 1 Reply. #: 20966 S6/Applications 21-May-95 14:07:21 Sb: #20961-Ved Upgrades Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Rick LaVallie 76653,2244 >Do you know where I might find an upgraded version of OSTERM I'm useing >version >OSTERM.142 and was hopeing there was a newer version around or even a better >terminal program for the COCO. You might want to ask Colin McKay. You can reach him at cmckay@northx.isis.org. #: 20963 S6/Applications 18-May-95 00:16:57 Sb: #Help needed Fm: Ken Drexler 75126,3427 To: All I have written an editor and word processor for OSK and am looking for several people to try it out. The editor uses a terminal for input and, within the limits of the terminal, is a what-you-see-is-what-you-get type editor. It can edit documents where each line is independent of each other, such as computer code as well as documents where the lines blend together into sentences and paragraphs. I have used the editor for over a year for writing programs (including the editor) and letters and other documents on my Kix\30 using Wyse 150 terminals. I would like to learn whether the program runs as well on other OSK machines and terminals. (I do not know, for instance, how it runs on a MM1 machine or with Kimtron or other terminals.) Also, writing an editor involves choices about the user interface and the commands and single-key operators which are available in it. I need feedback on whether the current features are useful, whether they work as expected and whether any needed features have been omitted. If you have an OSK machine and are willing to take a test drive and tell me what you think, send me email saying so. Ken Drexler 75126,3427 There is 1 Reply. #: 20965 S6/Applications 18-May-95 23:02:57 Sb: #20963-Help needed Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 To: Ken Drexler 75126,3427 (X) I have a CDS020 68020 system and will be glad to test the software on my system #: 20967 S6/Applications 21-May-95 15:05:55 Sb: Zip Bug fixed(?) Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: all Hey, everyone. I guess everyone remembers me crying a while back about ZIP messing up on the directory structure. I kept getting occasional instances when the bitmap for the file was not allocated. The version I have is 1.0 Someone said it was buggy, but I have had pretty good luck in unzipping (different program, of course), other files and have had no complaints on files I've zipped. I even grabbed a new zip (1.9) from chestnut, but _it_ seemed to do mess up more often than 1.0. I finally went in and began studying the code that came with zip, and I _believe_ I have discovered the problem.. When all files are zipped, it has created a new temp file, usually with the name _Z00*. On exit, it first deletes the original *.zip, if present. Next, it goes to a function called link(). It attempts to overwrite the temp filename with that of the destination *.zip name, inc the link count in the file descriptor. (Otherwise, if any part fails, it comes back and does a straight copy). In either case, it calls unlink() to delete the tempfile name. I found that link() failed often, and the moderately rare cases when link() was successful, were when the file structure got munged. The problem: I believe I've found it. In the file "osk.c", the main function that link() uses is a multi-purpose one, and it optionally will get the sector size from the device driver, or will read the disk. Two defines are used to control the program flow. "FROM_DRIVER" and "FROM_DISK". My code defines FROM_DISK, but... somehow, the author, down around line 750, when he wants to read the disk, uses the switch #ifdef "FROM_MEDIA" instead of "FROM_DISK". When I changed this to FROM_DISK, it appears in my test program that link() is working much more often (most of the time(?)) and that the few times I have tried it, it is now fixed... (I was a little chicken to try it on my HD - but did) If anyone is using zip, it might be well to fix this. Actually, I wonder if it would be safest to just eliminate this link() call from the procedure, as I wouldn't mind its doing a copy, as my main use for it is in small QWK replies and large copies to floppy for MS-DOS systems is not all that frequent. Is there someone who should be notified about this? I couldn't determine who might be in charge of the OS-9 end of it.. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 21005 S6/Applications 18-Jun-95 20:08:09 Sb: #20967-#Zip Bug fixed(?) Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) Sorry about the FROM_MEDIA FROM_DISK problem in ln.c. I don't remember even posting that version!!! Anyway, you are correct that changing MEDIA to DISK will correct the problem. The reason the #define was put in was the SCSI disk drivers that came with the TC-70 would always send back 256 as the sector size, even if it was really 512. Where did you get the link() function? Was it included in the ZIP sources? And is my name in it? - Mike - PS. Something else to watch out for with ln.c. If you do a link on a file you have open, the link count won't get properly incremented. Ran into that with CNews. There is 1 Reply. #: 21008 S6/Applications 20-Jun-95 20:52:45 Sb: #21005-Zip Bug fixed(?) Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 > Sorry about the FROM_MEDIA FROM_DISK problem in ln.c. I don't remember > even posting that version!!! Anyway, you are correct that changing MEDIA > to DISK will correct the problem. It was a simple change, really. Not really difficult to find after I got over the laziness of getting started at looking at the source. If that error was yours, had you already discovered it? > The reason the #define was put in was the SCSI disk drivers that came with > the TC-70 would always send back 256 as the sector size, even if it was > really 512. Yes, there was some info in there about that. > Where did you get the link() function? Was it included in the ZIP > sources? And is my name in it? I downloaded this with the Zip archive from Delphi, I believe. Someone has just uploaded a modified version with the FROM_DISK fixed, and apparently another change or two, since their module is a different length than mine. The link() function was with the sources. Someone sent me a version of Zip that didn't utilize the link() function. In looking over the source, there is a file called "osk.c" and this stuff is in it. Ln is credit to Bob Larson and it is noted that you had added sector-checking, it says Dec 8, 1992. I don't believe I saw any name as to who was responsible for the port of Zip itself. > PS. Something else to watch out for with ln.c. If you do a link on a file > you have > open, the link count won't get properly incremented. Ran into that with > CNews. This might be good for several to know. I had never fooled with this aspect of disk structure. To be honest, I was not really clear on the actual function of the link field, but I figured it out and with experimenting with ded, found out exactly what the link count did -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 20996 S6/Applications 14-Jun-95 15:12:30 Sb: #Dynamic Binary Fixup Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336 To: All Does anyone know if it's possible to load and un-load self-contained code dynamically in OS-9 using anything other than OS-9 modules? What I would like to be able to do is have a primary task that doesn't know at startup what functions it needs, and that it loads binaries on an as needed basis. As an example, let's say I didn't know ahead of time that I would need to display text. I determine this need at run-time, request a load of a text display executable (with an API that is known), and then begin to make text display calls. Is this only possible using OS-9 modules? The reasons for avoiding modules are: 1) I'm not sure if loading a module uses malloc, and if it does, I was told mallocs are bad in OS-9, at least in a CD-I environment; and 2), I wanted to know if there was some less OS-9 specific method of doing this. Thanks, Craig German There are 4 Replies. #: 20999 S6/Applications 15-Jun-95 03:30:59 Sb: #20996-#Dynamic Binary Fixup Fm: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472 To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 (X) Craig, Modules are part of the basic concept of OS-9. I thing it is a fine thing from the developers sight. So I don't see any reason to avoid them. 1.I'm really not sure if OS-9 uses malloc internally for allocating modules. Though it is true that malloc with OS-9 has its problems, i never had problem with modules. 2. Even if there are standards as posix is, you will alway have some features being specific to any operating system. So why do you want to avoid them? In some level of abstraction it is all the same, if modules or not. Jochen -Joachim Terasa There is 1 Reply. #: 21000 S6/Applications 15-Jun-95 10:43:55 Sb: #20999-Dynamic Binary Fixup Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336 To: Joachim Terasa 100421,2472 (X) Joachim, Thanks for the response. I agree with you about this issue -- I actually posted it because an associate and I had a disagreement about the impact of portability concerns for our system architecture, and I was looking for some external validation. Again, thanks! Craig German #: 21001 S6/Applications 15-Jun-95 12:04:54 Sb: #20996-#Dynamic Binary Fixup Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 (X) I used to do OS9 development, but it's beena while... Malloc() is typically an application class function. I would think that when allocating memory for executable operation that the operating system would use a lower level call (like sbreak(), ibreak(), or f$mem). We used loadable modules in our application without problems (os9 2.4 on 68040 VME boxes). Just watch those link counts! Pete Lyall There is 1 Reply. #: 21002 S6/Applications 16-Jun-95 09:31:42 Sb: #21001-Dynamic Binary Fixup Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Thanks! Craig German #: 21032 S6/Applications 28-Jun-95 15:12:41 Sb: #20996-#Dynamic Binary Fixup Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526 To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 (X) Hello Craig, there is a User Group in Europe, called European Forum for OS9 (EFFO). They have a magazine 3 times a year. In the mag (OS9 International) there is in the latest issue an article about this topic: Subroutinemodules (dynamic link libraries they are called in the Windows world nowadays). They are designed for that purpose you need. Unfortuntely Microware only talk about basic09 subroutine modules. But this is not the only language you can use this mechanism. have a closer look at the magazine. To get the sources to that article and some information send a mail (internet) to: INTERNET:os9int@effo.ch Hope I helped you out! Martin Raabe programming OS-9 since 1987 (BTW using OS-9 on the 68060 is gorgeous!!!) There is 1 Reply. #: 21037 S6/Applications 29-Jun-95 11:47:41 Sb: #21032-Dynamic Binary Fixup Fm: Craig S. German 72752,2336 To: M. Raabe 100327,1526 (X) Thanks a lot, Martin! I'll take your advice. Craig German Interactive Engines, Inc. #: 21033 S6/Applications 28-Jun-95 15:41:19 Sb: #20996-Dynamic Binary Fixup Fm: M. Raabe 100327,1526 To: Craig S. German 72752,2336 (X) Hi Craig, There is a Internet EMail site at my office, where the PD-disks from EFFO are stored in Germany. Here you can retrieve all disks, one special disk or the help text. Simply write an email to 'INTERNET:os9int@eltec.de' and fill in as subject 'help' to get the helpdesk. Here the latest disk is available containing the sources to get the advantage of shared libraries. Hope I helped you out! Martin Raabe Worms Germany #: 21041 S6/Applications 03-Jul-95 11:06:24 Sb: #Ved Fm: Rick LaVallie 76653,2244 To: Bob Van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Hi Bob Sorry I have not Thanked you for sending the upgrade to Ved so promptly. I have been in Kindersly Sask. working for the last month and have just returned. So Thank you for the upgrade. - Rick LaVallie - There is 1 Reply. #: 21042 S6/Applications 03-Jul-95 18:13:53 Sb: #21041-#Ved Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Rick LaVallie 76653,2244 (X) >Sorry I have not Thanked you for sending the upgrade to Ved so promptly. Okay...we aim to please. How it all working nicely for you. There is 1 Reply. #: 21046 S6/Applications 10-Jul-95 07:48:28 Sb: #21042-Ved Fm: Rick LaVallie 76653,2244 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) VED is running very well although i'm not quite sure how to use this Vdefs stuff. from what I have read it works as a formatter for VED. Anyway I haven't really had a lot of time to play with it.Been busy trying to train our new horses. Anyway thanks for asking about Ved it's nice to see there is still some support for the COCO - Rick LaVallie- #: 21077 S6/Applications 27-Jul-95 21:43:07 Sb: #21008-Zip Bug fixed(?) Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) About that problem with ln.c: Yes, I did find the problem before. ln.c should really be avoided if at all possible. It does make a nice move command tho. But I don't suggest using it for anything else. - Mike - #: 21186 S6/Applications 18-Sep-95 16:25:00 Sb: #21042-#Ved Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Bob, What's the latest VED Vers. for the CoCo? The one I own and use is 2.4, and I was wandering how far back that is and what it will take to get an upgrade, if one is available. Thanks, Lee There is 1 Reply. #: 21187 S6/Applications 18-Sep-95 22:44:50 Sb: #21186-#Ved Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 The lastest ved/6809 is 2.9. To get an update just send me your original disk in a reusable mailer with $5.00 and I'll do the deed. There is 1 Reply. #: 21194 S6/Applications 22-Sep-95 16:00:10 Sb: #21187-#Ved Fm: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Hello Bob, What is the full price for that latest version of VED?. I am located in Nogales Arizona (to help you figure out any ship/handl charges)... My CoCo 3 will benefit from an improved text editor.. huh, been using ED (from Multi-Vue) to edit my very first programs in OS9 C and OS9 Pascal . Rogelio Perea AZ-TEC Group There are 2 Replies. #: 21195 S6/Applications 23-Sep-95 18:14:09 Sb: #21194-Ved Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204 (X) > Hello Bob, > > What is the full price for that latest version of VED?. > ... My CoCo > 3 will benefit from an improved text editor.. huh, been using ED (from > Multi-Vue) to edit my very first programs in OS9 C and OS9 Pascal . Rogelio, Just my 2 cents worth. I can heartily recommend VED if you have never seen it. It has a multitude of useful features. I have only scratched the surface of it. FWIW.. I had (have) VED for the CoCo, I have not upgraded it from the version I originally had, but now have 2.4.0 for OSK. Since starting using the OSK version, I have discovered many features that my older coco version had all along but my non-reading of the manuals had not uncovered. If you do any text printing, the companion text formatter, VPRINT is also pretty much full-featured. You can do some pretty fancy output with a little time in setting it up. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 21197 S6/Applications 24-Sep-95 19:19:13 Sb: #21194-Ved Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Rogelio Perea 72056,1204 (X) Greetings Rogelio.... The current price of Ved/6809 is $24.95 and Vprint/6809 is $29.95. S/H is $3.00 per order in the US and Canada. Please add $5.00 for shipments to other countries. #: 21212 S6/Applications 07-Oct-95 11:30:32 Sb: #21195-#Ved Fm: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) > Rogelio, > > Just my 2 cents worth. I can heartily recommend VED if you have never > seen it. It has a multitude of useful features. I have only scratched the > surface of it. I have to agree. VED is one of the best editors I've used, and is by far the best OS-9 editor out there, in my opinion. Call me a satisfied customer. -- Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY |_ _| \ \/ / CompuServe: 74464,3005 I use... _| |_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us |_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems There is 1 Reply. #: 21213 S6/Applications 07-Oct-95 19:21:49 Sb: #21212-Ved Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Boisy G. Pitre 74464,3005 (X) > > Just my 2 cents worth. I can heartily recommend VED... > I have to agree. VED is one of the best editors I've used, and is by far > the best OS-9 editor out there, in my opinion. > > Call me a satisfied customer. -- Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ I think that most people _are_ quite satisfied with it. Oh, I'm sure that each of us has our own little ideas of how it could be "improved", but the thing about it is that it is not "finished". Bob seems to continue to make additions and upgrades. I must admit that I have only scratched the surface of what it can do. As a matter of fact, I had the coco version originally and am now discovering features with the OSK version that it had, too, but my reluctance to dig and research had failed to uncover. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 21220 S6/Applications 14-Oct-95 14:33:21 Sb: #Terminfo update?? Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Ken Scales 74646,2237 Ken, I have been playing around with "SC" under G-Windows on my Delmar System 5. It seems that several of the display features, as well as the arrow keys are not quite right for my system. It _does_ seem that all is well under the "vga" TERM screen, as far as I have tested. I would assume that there is a discrepancy between the "vt100" file I have with the "sc" program and my termcap file. I tried to find the two files ("captoinfo" and "tic") here and on Delphi, but have not been able to find them. I assume that "captoinfo" reads a termcap file and creates a termINFO file, and "tic" no doubt creates the binary files as supplied in the "trminfo" files. If possible, I would like to get hold of these utilities in order to recompile the file(s) hoping to get my vt100 screens to working better. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** There is 1 Reply. #: 21221 S6/Applications 15-Oct-95 12:10:14 Sb: #21220-Terminfo update?? Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) David - Your assumptions are correct... tic is 'term-info compiler'. You should be able to do this on any SysV.4 box (or variants). If you know anyone who runs LINUX, both tools are available there as well (a great, FREE unix for PC's). Should you run out of other options, I have a LINUX box here, but will be out of town most of the week. Worst case, you could mail me the file, I'll effect the conversions, and return mail you the result. Pete Lyall #: 21223 S6/Applications 16-Oct-95 19:07:32 Sb: #21221-Terminfo update?? Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) > Your assumptions are correct... tic is 'term-info compiler'. > > You should be able to do this on any SysV.4 box (or variants). > > If you know anyone who runs LINUX, both tools are available there as well > (a great, FREE unix for PC's). I don't know of anyone running LINUX. I have heard some really good reports on it, but I don't have a PC, myself. > Should you run out of other options, I have a LINUX box here, but will be > out of town most of the week. Worst case, you could mail me the file, I'll > effect the conversions, and return mail you the result. I'm not sure if it is a case of my terminfo file not being compatible with my system or not, but it would seem so.. The TERM (vga) screen appears to do well, but my G-Windows screen has a bit of trouble with the codes.. There is no OSK version of "tic"? -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 21224 S6/Applications 16-Oct-95 19:07:39 Sb: #21221-#Terminfo update?? Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Almost forgot... > Should you run out of other options, I have a LINUX box here, but will be > out of town most of the week. Worst case, you could mail me the file, I'll > effect the conversions, and return mail you the result. If I should send you the file, would I just need to send you the vt100 section? This is all I need... -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** There is 1 Reply. #: 21225 S6/Applications 16-Oct-95 20:12:34 Sb: #21224-#Terminfo update?? Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) David, I got 'captoinfo' and 'tic' by compiling the source in an upload called 'curses.ar' in lib 12. Hope it's still there. Re Pete's comments on LINUX. It is neat. Got X-windows on the 486 box. Studying the way the LINUX shell handled the Ghostscript makefile was the key to finally getting it to compile on the MM/1. Sneaky, huh? John Wainwright There is 1 Reply. #: 21232 S6/Applications 17-Oct-95 19:14:58 Sb: #21225-#Terminfo update?? Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) > I got 'captoinfo' and 'tic' by compiling the source in an upload called > 'curses.ar' in lib 12. Hope it's still there. I got that source. I haven't compiled it yet, but I didn't see any reference to these in it. Do I need something else? Here's the file I got: file file stored file name ver file date attr size size ----------------------------- --- -------------- ------ ----- ----- curses.c 0 87/08/09 14:56 ----wr 27301 15850 curses.h 0 87/08/06 22:20 --r-wr 2269 1121 curses.r 0 87/08/09 14:57 ----wr 5093 3582 > Re Pete's comments on LINUX. It is neat. Got X-windows on the 486 box. I've seen references to it in a PC-related newsgroup my local BBS downloads. It really sounds like a good setup.. Maybe I will have to get a PC after all... > Studying the way the LINUX shell handled the Ghostscript makefile was the > key to finally getting it to compile on the MM/1. Sneaky, huh? Very.. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** There is 1 Reply. #: 21236 S6/Applications 18-Oct-95 18:22:11 Sb: #21232-#Terminfo update?? Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) > > 'curses.ar' in lib 12. Hope it's > still there. > > I got that source. I haven't compiled > it yet, but I didn't see any reference > to these in it. Do I need something > else? Here's the file I got: OOps, checked my list again. There are TWO files in DL-12 called "curses.ar". One with length 20841 by 76625,2440 is probably the one you have The other, with length 264742 by 73270,3124 is the one I got the captoinfo and tic source from. There is a lot of other stuff, including a game called "MILLE" in there too. John There are 2 Replies. #: 21237 S6/Applications 18-Oct-95 20:08:25 Sb: #21236-Terminfo update?? Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) > > I got that source. I haven't compiled > > it yet, but I didn't see any reference > > to these in it. Do I need something > > else? Here's the file I got: > > OOps, checked my list again. There are TWO files in DL-12 called > "curses.ar". One with length 20841 by 76625,2440 is probably the one you > have It sure is.. so that's why I am missing out. Guess I'll have to go get the other one.. > The other, with length 264742 by 73270,3124 is the one I got the captoinfo > and tic source from. Thanks, John. I think maybe I can get it up and running now.. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 21239 S6/Applications 18-Oct-95 20:08:38 Sb: #21236-Terminfo update?? Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) > > > 'curses.ar' in lib 12. Hope it's > > still there. > The other, with length 264742 by 73270,3124 is the one I got the captoinfo > and tic source from. It doesn't seem to be here. The only one I could find was the one I have. Don't they keep an archive of old files here? Maybe I can get them to repost it. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 ***