#: 8678 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 11-Dec-90 19:02:58 Sb: RS232 Problem/Question Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: ALL I recently put together a kit from Heathkit called the "Most Accurate Clock". For you kit-builders out there, it was a very enjoyable project. As with any Heath kit, the assembly instructions were clear and consise. The only problems I encountered were due to my own haste. The clock is really a combination of a clock, shortwave receiver, and micro-computer. It picks up the signal from either WWV in Ft. Collins Colorado or WWVH in Kauai, Hawaii which contains the time in a binary coded format. It automatically switches between 5, 10, and 15 MHz to find the strongest signal. A microprocessor decodes the signal and feeds it to a clock which displays the time on the unit's LEDs. I also purchased an option which allows one to obtain the time information from the MAC via an RS-232 connection. I would like to read this information via OS9. Only, I'm not sure exactly what I need to do. The connection only uses three pins, pin 2 (Data), pin 5 (RTS), and pin 7 (GND). The clock has two modes of operation which provide the data out the Data pin. One is "automatic". In this mode, it sends the information out the Data pin continuously, with a 1 second pause between transmissions. The second way to get the data is in "Request" mode. When the clock senses a "low to high transition" on Pin 5 (Request to Send), it sends the data out the Data pin. (continued in next message) #: 8679 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 11-Dec-90 19:03:55 Sb: #RS232 Problem/Question Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: ALL (continued from previous message) My question is two pronged. 1) What would be the harm in putting the clock in auto mode, and only reading the data occasionally when desired? I mean, is there a problem receiving data in the port and not reading it? Does it get buffered and when I do do a read, do I get what was buffered up first (which may not be the current time)? If so, how would I "flush the buffer" first so I can read the next signal which will come through? 2) If I want to use it in "Request" mode, how do I cause Pin 5 to transition from low to high? That is, what kind of output do I write out to the device or what kind of system call do I do to achieve this effect? Naturally, the sample program listing in the tech ref is in MS-DOS Basic. Plus it does things like poking hex data in hex locations on the IO buss with OUT statements. Plus it reads the data with a similar statement, INP. Thanks in advance for any help! Zack There are 2 Replies. #: 8687 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 12-Dec-90 09:01:06 Sb: #8679-#RS232 Problem/Question Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack - A few thoughts.... First, if XON/XOFF is turned on for that path, the buffer management code in the serial driver will probably send an XOFF when the buffer crosses the threshold of 10 (or whatever) characters left until buffer full occurs. Second, it's been so long that I don't remember if overflow errors are posted for both chip and buffer overflows.. I know they are for chip, but don't know about buffers... Bill Dickhaus could probably help here, since he rewote ACIAPAK I believe. Regarding the other mode of operation, perhaps you could cross-wire that RTS line to the CD or DSR line. These will post an interrupt, and with a little mucking about you could service it periodically rather than have it be free running. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 8880 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 25-Dec-90 13:51:44 Sb: #8687-#RS232 Problem/Question Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) It's a little confusing since the line Heath is calling RTS should probabaly be CTS. (clear to send). Anyway, you should try tying it to DTR. (data terminal ready). Most ACIAPAK drivers assert DTR when the driver is inized and drop it when 'term'd. (opened and closed). So from a Basic09 program, for example, you would do an OPEN #path,"/t2" FOR i=1 TO xxxx GET #path,bite where xxx is about two "frames worth" of time data. Then CLOSE #path to shut the box down. You wouldn't hang on the GET 'cause the box keeps sending until the CLOSE right? Good luck & Merry Xmas. There is 1 Reply. #: 8903 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 26-Dec-90 10:47:12 Sb: #8880-#RS232 Problem/Question Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 (X) Bill - I think you misdirected your message... it was probably meant for Zack. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 8907 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 27-Dec-90 05:00:47 Sb: #8903-RS232 Problem/Question Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) You are right Pete, I was just responding to the string. Solly. #: 8712 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 13-Dec-90 10:19:49 Sb: #8679-#RS232 Problem/Question Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack, As long is the port isn't opened, ACIAPAK won't buffer anything. If the clock has been sending data continously, then the first read of the port will return an error. Subsequent reads should then get the most recent data sent by the clock, since the serial chip doesn't buffer at all. If you wanted to do it the other way, then you might try tying DTR (pin 20) on the serial port to RTS on the clock. DTR changes state when the port is opened. I can't remember, though, if RTS and DTR have the same "active' state, so this might not work. Bill There are 2 Replies. #: 8721 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 13-Dec-90 17:20:58 Sb: #8712-RS232 Problem/Question Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Thanks, Bill. #: 8881 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 25-Dec-90 13:53:43 Sb: #8712-RS232 Problem/Question Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Yup, Bill, all the RS-232 'control' lines have the same asserted level. +3v #: 8725 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 13-Dec-90 22:22:33 Sb: PlainRap BBS, California Fm: GENE TURNBOW 72457,220 To: ALL If any of you is in the San Fernando Valley, try the Plain Rap BBS. This is a completely noncommercial board, run for the love of it by Jim Sutemeier for the last eight years straight! It's on the StG net, and is the node used by Steve Bjork, who is the SigOp for the Hardware SIG. There are also SigOps for the C programming SIG, the RSDOS SIG and the OS-9 SIG, and most of the 12 SIGS are echoed across the StG network. The telephone number (gosh, I almost forgot!) is (818)772-8890. 2400, 8N1 24 hrs/day. #: 9006 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 03-Jan-91 18:59:15 Sb: #ribbs 2.0 Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: all I Need V2update.ar for Ribbs ver 2.0 !! If you have it will you please upload it?? Thanks! There is 1 Reply. #: 9012 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 04-Jan-91 01:45:02 Sb: #9006-#ribbs 2.0 Fm: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042 To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X) Everett, if you need such why not call the man Ron Bieher himself at his bbs number->(303) 343-6707 best, wayne There is 1 Reply. #: 9014 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 04-Jan-91 08:52:35 Sb: #9012-#ribbs 2.0 Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042 (X) I have allready tryed this and no luck!! His BBS will not let me download the whole file!! (1976 blocks & all i get is 881 blocks then lockup!!) Do you have V2update?? There is 1 Reply. #: 9021 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 04-Jan-91 23:21:45 Sb: #9014-ribbs 2.0 Fm: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042 To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X) Everett, you don't say what baud you were using, although I imagine it was at least 1200 or above, there is several sysops who run ribbs why don't you leave a message for him. asking for the nearest sysop that runs ribbs, there is a list of several. Another idea is that he has a ribbs echo that most of these sysops attach to, leave a note there if he doesn't respond, lastly I don't know what section of the country that you're calling from, but I know one sysop who goes crazy trying to get people into ribbs, try calling his board @ 1-619-224-4878 ocean beach bbs Wayne #: 9662 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 02-Mar-91 17:22:41 Sb: TSMON Fm: Bob Archambault 76506,3544 To: ALL Has anyone used the file "TZMON1.AR" from Lib 8. I de-arc'ed itand have it all on a system disk (level 2). Now I need to know HOW to use it :-) Is it the same as the TSMON on level 1? Also, how do I go about assigning passwords (if any)? Any help greatly appreciated! Thanx! Bob #: 9844 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 17-Mar-91 17:48:42 Sb: Help with LogIn Fm: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412 To: 76070,41 Mark, I downloaded your LogIn utilities and am having some problems setting it up. My problem is with the ADDUSER utility. When I run it it accesses /dd for a moment then asks for the username and UID. After answering the prompts, it reports "adding new user ..." and then ends (I'm back to the shell). I gathered from the docs that it was supposed to create the necessary files and generally "set things up". Do I need to create any files/directories before running ADDUSER? -Jeff #: 9974 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 26-Mar-91 17:28:07 Sb: #9844-Help with LogIn Fm: GENE TURNBOW 72457,220 To: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412 (X) I had the same problem with it. You're not alone here. #: 10095 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 02-Apr-91 20:27:07 Sb: #9844-#Help with LogIn Fm: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412 To: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412 (X) Gene, Interesting. I got Login to work by maually creating the necessary files and putting together the /dd/sys/password file (trial and error). From what I can piece together (I never used any login utility before) there seems to be one parameter in a password file entry that I can't figure out - the last one. What's it for and what's its format? -Jeff There is 1 Reply. #: 10100 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 03-Apr-91 07:12:59 Sb: #10095-Help with LogIn Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412 (X) Jeff, The last entry in my password file is the program to fork. For most it's shell. There was one login utility out there that kept a record of the date/time of last log on. If this is what you're talking about, try the standard OS9 time format 'yymmdd hhmmss'. Steve #: 10049 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 30-Mar-91 00:05:00 Sb: #adduser util Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 To: Mark Griffith Mark, Here I am trying to install your UUCP program. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten by adduser yet. When I start adduser, first of all it doesn't take a command line parameter like "adduser bob" (i.e. it prompts for a username anyway). So at the username prompt, I type in the name (Bob for argument's sake), press return, then it asks for User ID #. I type in a reasonable number, press return, and the program just ends with no errors or any discernible disk activity. What am I missing here? Hugo There is 1 Reply. #: 10074 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 31-Mar-91 13:10:39 Sb: #10049-#adduser util Fm: Randy Wilson 71561,756 To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X) Hugo, I'm glad to see it wasn't just my imagination. :> I had the same problem. After much fiddling around, I broke down and compiled the source. The binary I got from the compile was mucho different from the one included. The new binary worked fine. Randy There are 2 Replies. #: 10076 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 31-Mar-91 19:25:16 Sb: #10074-#adduser util Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 To: Randy Wilson 71561,756 (X) That's what I ended up doing too. In addition, I changed a call to create() (a Kreider lib version) to Microware's creat() and that worked fine after a compile. The create() call had two arguments called S_IUPDAT or something and I had no idea what that stood for as far as permissions and such. Hugo There are 2 Replies. #: 10077 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 31-Mar-91 19:53:23 Sb: #10076-adduser util Fm: Randy Wilson 71561,756 To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X) Hugo, Ooops, soulda warned you about that. Mark apparently uses header files that aren't stock Kreider or MWC. I added the S_IUPDATE to my modes.h file. Isn't "portable" C nice? With only a little work and frustration (took me about two hours to figure out what was wrong) you can port a program from one CoCo to another CoCo. :> Randy #: 10083 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 01-Apr-91 08:03:33 Sb: #10076-#adduser util Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X) While Mark does rely heavily on the Kreider libs and non standard header files, both have been available in the libraries for some time now. Using other than stock 'anythings' can sometimes create an atmosphere of confusion. The benefits of replacing the stock libs and header files with those found here outway the disadvantages. By now, folks consider the Kreider Libs to be standard. The S_IUPDAT is just defining (S_IREAD+S_IWRITE). Mark stays in touch. Feel free to leave him a message if other problems crop up. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 10086 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 01-Apr-91 19:40:02 Sb: #10083-#adduser util Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) I also have the Kreider libs handy, but I also have the Kreider headers handy too. The S_IUPDATE issue was just a wrench in the works for me. I don't do enough C compiling to know these things. Anyway, I did solve the problem by using an original Microware function. I hope to be able to communicate with Mark via my own UUCP site very shortly. Hugo There is 1 Reply. #: 10088 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 02-Apr-91 07:47:28 Sb: #10086-#adduser util Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X) I'm right there with you Hugo. I know just enough about C to make me a real danger when I type cc. :-) The same problem (S_IUPDATE) hit me when I was involved in the testing of the UUCP for Mark. My solution was to ask Mark what was going on. He pointed me in the right direction .... immediately. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 10102 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 03-Apr-91 20:15:19 Sb: #10088-adduser util Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Well, the adduser problems are behind me now. I'm now testing locally with Bob Billson (UUCP). Once we get things going OK, I'll be running another Coco 3 uucp site! Hugo Delphi: MRGOOD CIS: 71211,3662 UUCP (future): ...!(rutgers,njin)!fdurt!kc2wz!bluehaus!hugo #: 10120 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 05-Apr-91 12:41:22 Sb: #10074-adduser util Fm: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412 To: Randy Wilson 71561,756 Randy, I to had problems with Adduser. Question- I don't have a compliler yet, would it possible for you to email me a copy of the working binary that you managed to complile? -Jeff #: 10098 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 02-Apr-91 23:28:18 Sb: #RiBBS 2.0 help Fm: edward langenback 73510,145 To: all i'm in the process of switching my BBS over to RiBBS v2.0 and have been having trouble getting menu's created. it seems that menuedit insists on using a black on white screen, and turning the text of the option selected (in the create/edit part of the program) to the same color as the background, requireing me to type blind. also, for some reason it does not want to save menu(s) once they are created. any ideas what i'm missing here? "KMA-68!!" / / Thanks, Ed There is 1 Reply. #: 10099 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 03-Apr-91 04:37:54 Sb: #10098-RiBBS 2.0 help Fm: John Wight 76370,2100 To: edward langenback 73510,145 Sounds like you need to use menu option #1 in RCONFIG to change the palettes that you view on the screen. These color selections will have no effect on what the remote user sees, so feel free to change these colors to whatever suits you best. #: 10151 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 07-Apr-91 10:55:54 Sb: #10120-#adduser util Fm: Randy Wilson 71561,756 To: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412 (X) Jeff, No prob. Watch your mail box.. Randy There is 1 Reply. #: 10156 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 07-Apr-91 19:37:34 Sb: #10151-adduser util Fm: Jeff Dugas 74746,3412 To: Randy Wilson 71561,756 (X) Randy, Great, got it! Works to! Awesome - thanks alot. -Jeff #: 10359 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 20-Apr-91 04:26:37 Sb: #10099-#RiBBS 2.0 help Fm: edward langenback 73510,145 To: John Wight 76370,2100 (X) well, i tried starting from re-boot, running RCONFIG and using menu option #1 to get the palettes set correctly. then ran menuedit. /NOW/ it gets to the main menu, and stops with an error #203 Illegal Mode. this is, to say the least, a /bit/ fr frustrating. Ed. "KMA-68!!" >>>>>S S<<<<< !!!!!!!!!!!!! There are 2 Replies. #: 10370 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 20-Apr-91 20:43:37 Sb: #10359-RiBBS 2.0 help Fm: John Wight 76370,2100 To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X) Did you get an error 203 with menuedit or with RiBBS? I don't think chaning palette colors with RCONFIG should have such an effect, as the only thing changed is colors./exit #: 10371 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 20-Apr-91 20:47:03 Sb: #10359-#RiBBS 2.0 help Fm: John Wight 76370,2100 To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X) RiBBS isn't the easiest thing to set up. Do read the docs again carefully, and try, try, again. Do you know about the FIDONET RiBBS echo? If you don't give me l there (and less expensive, too). There is 1 Reply. #: 10375 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 21-Apr-91 05:15:59 Sb: #10371-RiBBS 2.0 help Fm: edward langenback 73510,145 To: John Wight 76370,2100 true, RiBBS isn't the easiest thing to set up, but, most of it was quite a bit easier than other things i've messed with. a LOT easier than getting the stock Multi-Vue package set up and all the patches found & applied for example. i've spent quite a bit of time reading the docs, and will continue to do so, while i do want to switch over as soon as i can, i'm not in /that/ much of a hurry. the error 203 that i mentioned comes not from RiBBS, but from MenuEdit itself. it'll set up it's black text on white background screen, print the MenuEdit main menu, then error out with #203. FidoNet RiBBS echo would be a good idea, except i haven't found a local node that carries it here in columbus, oh. Ed. #: 10582 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 05-May-91 03:38:39 Sb: RiBBS 2.0 help Fm: John Wight 76370,2100 To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X) Well, as I said, changing colors shouldn't cause an error #203 in menuedit. At this point I would suggest making sure the modules are merged as described in the docs, and of course make sure the execution biits are set. You might also check and make sure the path nam is correct in option 1 of Rconfig. The path to the menus should be a path to a directory. I would hate to tell you to start from scratch, but even I had to do this a time or two. But after I got the first version of RiBBS running, I had no problems installing the late version. So go back and check your work, and let me know the results in detail. I do check in here about once a week, so feel free to ask for help, since there doesn't seem to be a node that carries the RiBBS echo in your area. There are a few a state away, however. If you should be a member of Delphi, there are some RiBBS sysops that get together there on Saturday Evenings. Warren Hrach also puts together a RiBBS to Go package, with RiBBS already set up ready to run on about 5 floppies. You can contact him at his BBS, Ocean Beach (1-619-224-4878 300/1200/2400 baud) #: 10605 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 07-May-91 15:28:45 Sb: #StG Login package Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: 72427,335 (X) Scott, Is your StG login package still available? What is the price? I am looking for a TSMon which supports auto baud from 2400 down to 300. Thanks, Zack btw, I just mailed you a letter today asking about my O OSK'er subscription. There are 3 Replies. #: 10607 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 07-May-91 16:29:15 Sb: #10605-StG Login package Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack - Carl's/Mine/Bill's MTSMON supports autobaud, and the price is right ($0). Bill Dickhaus added the COCOfications, so it'd be best to give him a jingle. Pete #: 10609 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 07-May-91 18:13:12 Sb: #10605-#StG Login package Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack - the new OSKer was at the fest... he'd been moving and got delayed. Unfortunately, most people thought they were complimentary issues laying around, and were taking/giving them away for free. Poor Scott! There is 1 Reply. #: 10969 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 05-Jun-91 20:04:28 Sb: #10609-StG Login package Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Actually, that wasn't so much of a problem. I've been shoveling money into the OSKer since day one and a little more wasn't going to hurt. I'm not making any money off it... StG #: 10968 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 05-Jun-91 20:01:31 Sb: #10605-StG Login package Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Yes, the StG Login package (now named 'StGNet') is available from Animajik (818)761-4135. I believe it is priced under $50 for the current version 3.0. I would suggest getting that version now - the new version 4.0 is about done and will support OSK machines as well - all owners of V3 will get V4 for free. If you have not received issue #4 of the OSKer by now, then there is a problem with your subscription. If so, give me a call at (317) 241-6401. StG #: 11029 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 11-Jun-91 04:20:28 Sb: BBS Fm: edward langenback 73510,145 To: all Springwood BBS! (614)-228-7371 300 / 1200 / 2400 Running RiBBS v2.0 On-line games: Poker, Hangman, Chess, Trek Limited transfers for CoCo Users. #: 11956 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 26-Aug-91 00:14:39 Sb: #ZModem Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: All Are there any OS-9 Communications programs that implement ZModem? (Lvl 2, CoCo3) Lee There is 1 Reply. #: 11961 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 26-Aug-91 08:10:51 Sb: #11956-#ZModem Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X) Lee ... I picked up an external zmodem module from the CoCo List that I use from within Sterm. Much like using Kermit, I just shell out and fire up the appropriate syntax. It's a scream watching the lights on my modem glow solid! If you can't lay hands on it... give me a shout. I'll put it up. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 11965 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 26-Aug-91 13:03:50 Sb: #11961-ZModem Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 Thanks for the reply. I'll look around, but I don't call many boards and/or services except for our club's board [and I know that we don't have it] and CI$. Lee #: 11990 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 27-Aug-91 18:44:15 Sb: #11956-#ZModem Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X) There are none. Most of the terminal programs that we have were written a few years ago, before Zmodem was available for the OS9/6809. What I do, with zmodem and kermit, from OSterm, is set up for downloading, then go into the OSterm shell, and 'kermit .....' or 'zmodem ....' the file. Jim Sutemeier SysOp BBS StG International Network Node 818:772-8890 There is 1 Reply. #: 11996 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 27-Aug-91 22:33:13 Sb: #11990-ZModem Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X) Thanks for the info. Lee #: 13606 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 22-Dec-91 10:35:50 Sb: StG BBS Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: all Attention: BBS Operators and those who may want to run a BBS The StG Login Package, written by Scott Griepentrog, has just been released, so that anyone wanting to run the package as a local BBS may do so. The StG Package is the ONLY set of programs that allow YOU, the SysOp, 100% total control over what your users see and do online. There are NO pre-defined Menus (you make your own, dependent on your BBS's theme), and, you may add as many of your own modules as you wish. The programs are capable of displaying either ANSI or OS9 colors, if you want your BBS to be colored. The package will be available in the BBS section of the downloads, and, if you have questions, I will be pleased to try to answer them (I ran the StG Package for the past 1-1/2 years). StG is currently working on versions for the Tomcat70 and the MM/1, also. Included in the dox files are instructions on how to register and 'go nationwide' with your local BBS. If you are currently a SysOp, and would like MORE Control over your BBS, or, if you've ever thought about running a BBS, then be sure and grab these files. There will be further releases, in the near future, of other optional support features for you BBS, written in primarily B09. These include an up/download program, a poll question, many games, a 'today is...' program, bulletin programs, plus many other optional features. #: 13708 S8/BBS Systems/TSMon 27-Dec-91 17:33:11 Sb: StG BBS Package Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: all To those who have downloaded the StG BBS Package, we forgot to include one short ar group of files that will be necessary to get your BBS up and running. Just uploaded to DL8 is StG_SYS.ar, and it contains necessary files to get you going. Enjoy!! jim Sutemeier BBS