#: 8496 S15/Hot Topics 30-Nov-90 20:52:21 Sb: #8315-#Fest Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) Frank, as far as I can tell, with DMODE the MM/1 driver (actually the descriptor) can be set to read any format known, as long as it's "known" what it is, grin. MM/1's "standard" is 33 (or 34?) sectors per track -- some folks use more, but it isn't 100% safe. I hear that some "standards" (new ones) are just bypassing Track 0, with its confusion as to what density it is. Anyway, there is a set of about 6 parameters that serve to describe any format well enuf that with DMODE you can zap a descriptor to read it. If we could settle on a common set of names for those parameters, then vendors could label disks with the key parameters. I've scribbled a fewon your DS 3.5" disk already, grin. Oh yes, Coco 720K DS-80T 3.5" disks don't read on an MM/1 without changing a few parameters either. So many standards -- so little time -mike k. There is 1 Reply. #: 8528 S15/Hot Topics 01-Dec-90 23:47:10 Sb: #8496-#Fest Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X) The 'standard' that skips track zero is referred to as the 'universal' format. MW does have a numbering system that used to be in their sig here on cis but Kev tells me that it is no longer there??? I have it somewhere and will upload it 'if' I find it. With the ability to change descriptors and also the ability and room (memory) to have named descriptors it really doesn't matter what each company uses as long as the disk has the info on it that is useful. To this end I will be doing 'something' on the disks we ship out in the future. How about a 'read me' file on the disk... (ha ha) BTW we are working on a upgrade to DynaStar to fix some of the little bugs and make a few changes, little ones, to make it easier to use. We are also trying to make it work as the manual says it does. Or... we'll change the manual to reflect what it actually does. If you have any 'small' suggestions now is the time to speak up. This is 'not' a rewrite, just a touch-up. Frank There is 1 Reply. #: 8853 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-90 23:12:09 Sb: #8528-#Fest Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) He he -- a readme file on the unreadable disk, grin. Glad to hear you're cleaning up DS. At the moment I can't think of LITTLE fixes, other than finding the bug which very rarely causes DS to write the last line of file forever till your disk fills up. Oh yes, how about that final non-newline character that sometimes can't be made to go away? I heard that shouldbe easy to fix. Would be nice to be able to save yaour file and go on editing the same file at the same place, but I guess that's not a minor fix. Could you add a way to QUICKLY set all TABS to 4 spaces instead of 5? Oh here's a nasty bug -- ^KA puts only 1 space instead of 2 after periods, unless you end each sentence with a period, space, and newline. Same bug applies to question and exclmataioion marks. PLEASE fix that one-I saw a reviewer really rag about it, and it bothers me too. Dyna Form needs to crash the system less often when things aren't quite right in the .init file. Some printer code definitions crash it. Also you need to be able to send zero-bytes in the printer commands (I think that's fixed in OSK?). "nuff bugs for now -- mike k. There is 1 Reply. #: 8867 S15/Hot Topics 23-Dec-90 16:51:29 Sb: #8853-#Fest Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Some if not all those you mentioned have been taken care of so far. I will pass this on to Dave to see about the others. Thanks for the input Frank There are 2 Replies. #: 8888 S15/Hot Topics 25-Dec-90 14:30:53 Sb: #8867-Fest Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) Merry Christmas Frank...... send money. #: 8893 S15/Hot Topics 25-Dec-90 22:14:05 Sb: #8867-Fest Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 cute #: 8593 S15/Hot Topics 04-Dec-90 17:13:55 Sb: #8107-#Fest Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X) Mike, Don't you have Kevin's "Drive" command on that MM/1 proto? You just type drive d0 st or drive d0 coco or whatever. Let KEv know and I am sure he'll mail it to ya! Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 8854 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-90 23:15:35 Sb: #8593-Fest Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 OK Paul -- sounds like a substitute for various DMODE shell scripts. Good idea. Say, I hear there's an MM/1 developer's DataBase LIbrary area here for those with "need to know" -- can I get in? Plus I hear there's useful stuff in the OSK libe here -- will take a look. #: 8594 S15/Hot Topics 04-Dec-90 17:15:14 Sb: Fest Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Mark S 76004,373 (X) And then you have those 20 meg flopticals. Whew. Paul Ward #: 8559 S15/Hot Topics 02-Dec-90 22:23:22 Sb: #MM/1 Progress? Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Hi Paul... How's things coming with the MM/1? How much longer do we have to wait? There is 1 Reply. #: 8591 S15/Hot Topics 04-Dec-90 17:05:08 Sb: #8559-#MM/1 Progress? Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Glen, Well, here's the full scoop, and I hope you can pass it around. Since the Atlant CoCo Fest, we have had two challenges. To ensure that our parts list for the manufacturer was bullet-proof (one distributor sent us a chip as an equivalent that was NOT an equivalent and gave developer machines a tizzy until we discovered the problem!); and the FCC certification. The MM/1 was designed from the ground up with FCC certifiable parts. This includes ferite beads on the connectors and a bunch of attention to grounding and so on. So the lab we used was delighted with the system and requested only TWO small changes. First, on the case we use, there was a little paint overspray. This is common on PC clone cases and is no doubt present on all those PC clones you see advertized in the Shopper or other computer magazines that are not FCC certified. Second, the keybaord connector on the front of our machine was not grounded -- a small oversight in the integration process. So we sent the machine back to them with these fixes -- and the machine arrived damaged. By the time we got all this fixed up, time had slipped by. We hate delays, Glen. We want to ship ASAP. But it is illegal to sell a non-FCC approved machine. It is also IMS policy to create a MAINSTREAM company with MAINSTREAM software and a legal, regulated, certified product. So what is the status now? FCC lab says that they'll have the lab portion done any day now. Hooray! And, IMS has an idea up their sleeve to get machines in your hands ASAP. It's legal, fun, and will make thousands of OSK and future OSK folks happy. TTFN. Best regards, Paul K. Ward Interactive Media Systems, Inc. There are 3 Replies. #: 8626 S15/Hot Topics 07-Dec-90 00:28:10 Sb: #8591-MM/1 Progress? Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Hi Paul... Thanks for the information. Can't wait to see that machine on my desk!!! (Hey, do I need FCC certification to buy one if I live in Canada? ) #: 8628 S15/Hot Topics 07-Dec-90 06:34:20 Sb: #8591-#MM/1 Progress? Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul, This is a little of the subject, but I'm sure this question is burning in the minds of more people than just me. What does paint overspray have to do with FCC certification? BTW, I'm all for getting my MM/1 as soon as possible, but if your idea (you know, the 'legal, fun' one) is the 'Part of the Month' club, you will be shot! <> --Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 8629 S15/Hot Topics 07-Dec-90 07:45:27 Sb: #8628-#MM/1 Progress? Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) It concerns FCC certification because paint overspray can insulate the pieces of the case from one another, so that the case doesn't behave like a Faraday cage (keeping RFI from escaping). There is 1 Reply. #: 8635 S15/Hot Topics 08-Dec-90 08:56:02 Sb: #8629-MM/1 Progress? Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) OK, thanks. I thought it was something like that. --Colin #: 8955 S15/Hot Topics 30-Dec-90 11:41:50 Sb: #8591-MM/1 Progress? Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 Paul, The word seems to be out (at least on the Internet) that the 'up-the-sleeve' deal you mentioned would be that IMS will be releasing the MM/1 in kit form, initially to get the ball rolling. What are the details on that plan? How much of a savings over the constructed unit? What is provided (case? power supply? etc.) I'm sure folks would be curious .... Steve #: 8979 S15/Hot Topics 31-Dec-90 23:40:02 Sb: #Tomcat TC70 Ships! Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: All >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FINALLY! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On December 31st 1990, Frank Hogg Laboratory shipped the first of many Tomcat TC70 Computers. Serial #2 went out the door with a 40 meg Quantum hard drive and a 3.5" Hi Density floppy drive. (I have Serial #1) Volume shipments of TC70's will begin in a week or so. Meanwhile the Tomcat TC9 progresses at a fast pace with deliveries hoped to begin in February 1991. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL! Frank Hogg There are 3 Replies. #: 8981 S15/Hot Topics 01-Jan-91 01:15:22 Sb: #8979-Tomcat TC70 Ships! Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) Congratulations! And Happy New Year to all of us! I think it'll be a good one... #: 8983 S15/Hot Topics 01-Jan-91 04:04:55 Sb: #8979-Tomcat TC70 Ships! Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONGRADULATIONS <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< And a very Happy and Prosperous New Year to You and to ALL! Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO #: 8986 S15/Hot Topics 01-Jan-91 11:13:35 Sb: #8979-Tomcat TC70 Ships! Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) Congratulations, Frank! Here's to a very successful year for FHL! Steve #: 9080 S15/Hot Topics 10-Jan-91 08:35:48 Sb: MM1KIT.TXT Fm: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 To: SYSOP (X) Steve - I found a couple of typos in MM1KIT.TXT in DL 15, so have corrected them and re-uploaded the file. Thanks. -mark #: 9091 S15/Hot Topics 11-Jan-91 15:58:37 Sb: #MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 To: ALL All - Be sure to see MM1KIT.TXT in DL 15. This is an announcement from IMS about how you can get an MM/1 in kit form. The MM/1 kit is a great bargain, is easy to assemble, and is a way for you to have an MM/1 on your desk while FCC approval for the completed system is pending. -mark There are 2 Replies. #: 9094 S15/Hot Topics 11-Jan-91 17:21:07 Sb: #9091-#MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751 To: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 I lost track somewhere, Is the MM1 and the TomCat compatable with all the CoCo OS9 Level II softwhere, that I have? There is 1 Reply. #: 9095 S15/Hot Topics 11-Jan-91 17:56:54 Sb: #9094-MM/1 Kit Available Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751 (X) The MM/1 is not, unless either someone does a 6809 emulator or the OS/Gateway is done. The TC70 (the 68070 board that plugs into the K-Bus box) is not, either. Both of those systems use 68070s. The TC09 (the 6309 board that plugs into the K-Bus box) *is* supposed to be able to run CoCo 3 OS-9/6809 Level Two software. (When discussing "the Tomcat," one has to be very careful to indicate exactly what one is talking about.) #: 9098 S15/Hot Topics 11-Jan-91 23:09:43 Sb: #9091-MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 Mark; Forgive my anxiety, but when will the UPS man get the first boxes? I'm starting a M68000 class tomorrow, and an MM/1 on the desk would make things a _whole_ lot easier! ...Jim #: 9121 S15/Hot Topics 13-Jan-91 21:29:46 Sb: #mm1kit.txt Fm: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Steve - Good grief! There is so much stuff on the MM/1 that I overlooked the 1.44 MB disk drive and a couple of other things. Rest assured that I have checked the version of mm1kit.txt that I just uploaded to DL 15 and it seems to cover everything. Thanks for replacing it in DL 15. -mark There is 1 Reply. #: 9130 S15/Hot Topics 14-Jan-91 08:29:20 Sb: #9121-mm1kit.txt Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 (X) No sweat, Mark. I'm sure the Constitution went though several draft releases before it 'made it'. :-) We'll take care of it. Steve #: 9134 S15/Hot Topics 14-Jan-91 09:48:54 Sb: #9098-#MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim - Mr. UPS will get your manuals the end of this week so you can get familiar with OS-9/68000. The computer should be ready to go in a 3-4 weeks or so There is 1 Reply. #: 9145 S15/Hot Topics 14-Jan-91 23:30:10 Sb: #9134-MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 (X) O.K. Mark; That helps a bit. Guess I'll only need one valium tonight! ;-) ...Jim #: 9135 S15/Hot Topics 14-Jan-91 09:49:00 Sb: #9098-#MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim - Mr. UPS will get your language and operating system manuals the end of this week. About three weeks later he will receive the kits. And then it will be on its way to your desk. We'll call you before shipping to let you know the actual date you can expect the machine, etc. We're almost there!!! -mark There is 1 Reply. #: 9147 S15/Hot Topics 15-Jan-91 00:19:20 Sb: #9135-#MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 (X) Mark; AlllRIGHT! Now, when can we expect to see the specs on the MM/Ws (68040 33Mhz Workstation) ?? Geez, just kidding! It's been a long road, eh? ...Jim There is 1 Reply. #: 9152 S15/Hot Topics 15-Jan-91 07:06:14 Sb: #9147-MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim - Only 33MHz? Why not hold out for 50? A long and winding road, but we are nearly there! Thanks for your patience and support. -mark #: 9136 S15/Hot Topics 14-Jan-91 09:49:09 Sb: #9094-#MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 To: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751 (X) Robert - Because OS-9/6809 has instructions for the 6809 CP and because no one is manufacturing a 6809 consumer computer any more, IMS did not feel it was in your long term interest to offer binary compatability with the 6809. The MM/1 uses a Motorola 68000-compatable CPU. There are two big advanteges to using OS-9 on this architecture. First, the 680x0 series has a lot of life left in it. Second, Basic and C source code from OS-9/6809 is easily portable to OS-9/68000. In fact, with the current windowing system for the MM/1, Mike Haaland ported Zack Sessions' Pyramid Solitaire in a couple of days. IMS is talking with various CoCo vendors to ensure that a lot of your favorite software becomes available for the MM/1. At least one vendor mentioned that he would be interested in providing an upgrade discount for the MM/1 version. Keep in mind that as products are ported up to the MM/1 that many of them will be greatly enhanced. And of course, thanks to the faster CPU, multitasking will be even more convenient than it is under Level 2. BTW, send me your address and I'll send you more information, or call (202)232-4246 and ask to speak with our Sales Director. -mark There is 1 Reply. #: 9137 S15/Hot Topics 14-Jan-91 11:22:10 Sb: #9136-#MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751 To: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 (X) Mark, my address is 408 Grandview Ave., Feasterville, PA, 19053. Financially I am not in a position to aquire another computer right now. However I am constantly having problems with the multipac interface connection in the computer. And so I am looking for something better. But over the last 10 years have a termendous investment in software on this CoCo III, and I seem to be the only CoCo consultant working for Radio Shack in Philadelphia. So there has got to be a better way. There is 1 Reply. #: 9150 S15/Hot Topics 15-Jan-91 06:54:49 Sb: #9137-MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Mark B. Sheffield 76247,1332 To: Robert A. Hengstebeck 76417,2751 (X) Robert - I'll send you some information about the MM/1, so you'll be familiar with it when you are ready to consider a new computer. Buying a new computer does not necessarily mean you have to throw your CoCo away. -mark (IMS) #: 9217 S15/Hot Topics 20-Jan-91 20:39:52 Sb: #9145-#MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Steve Flock 76547,3362 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) I tried to get a list of software for the mm/1 a while ago, but wasnt sent anything.. Anything completed yet? And, I believe that ims WAS offering some kind of plan to get a mm/1 for $35 a mo. Is that still on or what? Curious.. Steve Flock [76547,3362} There is 1 Reply. #: 9243 S15/Hot Topics 22-Jan-91 23:01:40 Sb: #9217-MM/1 Kit Available Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Steve Flock 76547,3362 (X) Steve; Ummm.. I think that maybe you meant to send your message to either Paul Ward 73477,2004 or Mark Sheffield 76247,1332 rather than to me. The only connection I have with IMS so far is that of 'customer' . According to the confirmation that I got in the mail today, the manuals are on the way, with the MM/1 following in 3-4 weeks. Pant, pant!! ...Jim #: 9424 S15/Hot Topics 07-Feb-91 04:38:17 Sb: SYSTEM IV Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: all Check the new announcement about the SYSTEM IV in library 15. New, low pricing. Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO #: 9459 S15/Hot Topics 09-Feb-91 22:48:56 Sb: #upload Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: SysOp (X) Hi, I uploaded a file to DL15 Friday nite. I forgot to leave a message to you that I did so. Now I've forgotten the name, anyway could you do whatever it is you guys do to get it posted. Thanks Frank There is 1 Reply. #: 9465 S15/Hot Topics 10-Feb-91 10:55:00 Sb: #9459-#upload Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) Hi Frank ... it's never necessary to alert us to a pending file. The forum software alerts each of us to that fact when we enter the forum ... but thanks for the thought! :-) The delay in making STATC9.208 visible in LIB 15 was beacuse of the need to tweak the file for viewing. Whatever terminal program you're using seems to do strange things with line feeds. I've doctored the file and it's now available in LIB 15 as we type. Thanks for the update! Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 9472 S15/Hot Topics 10-Feb-91 23:15:00 Sb: #9465-upload Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) LF's hmmmm, I 'thought' I put those little beggers in there??? Frank #: 9525 S15/Hot Topics 15-Feb-91 23:31:53 Sb: Status report #2 Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: sysop (X) I've uploaded report #2 in DL15. I had trouble with the description, it kept adding the changes I made rather than replacing. Anyway it's there. Would you please do your thing. Thanks Frank #: 9555 S15/Hot Topics 17-Feb-91 22:22:07 Sb: #High Sierra CDROM fmts Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464 To: all I just went to the CDROM SIG here on CIS. They have a set of 4 text files that describe the High Sierra CDROM format to the hilt! These have been available on-line for exactly 3 years to the day! That's yet another hurdle we just jumped over (re: earlier messages on how OS9ers are faring on access to CDROM databases). Can the various makers of SCSI interfaces for the CoCo3/OS9 please reply to my original messages, and please describe how well "your" SCSI will handle the CDROM drives made for SCSI? (There are some CDROM drives being made that are not SCSI; I'm not concerned about those! :-) These would be "read-only" disks so to speak, so the Device Descriptors must be 100% accurate in relation to the prerecorded media, I would think. And then if your SCSI can run CDROM drives accurately, we might be home-free in developing a High Sierra RBF-style file manager. So, who can help us!?!? I might as well ask FHL how his K-buss SCSI cards can deal with CDROM drives? And I definitely need Disto to respond with respect to his Super Controller add-on cards. Please? And can Chris Burke find out if his XT interfacer can adapt the IBM-compatible 8-bit SCSI cards to the CoCo buss and whether we might get some help along these particular ideas? Judging by the size of the H.S. text files I downloaded (goodness over 180K-bytes all told), it might be the "last" hurdle -- and a DOOZY -- to get an OS9 file manager going to read those dudes. I hope - I hope - I hope - the various database formats are there, too, such as how they pack graphics & animation in the Compton's Encyclopedia for example. Thank you all very much in advance - sometimes CIS *IS* worth its on-line time charges in gold!! -- Thx, Paul Seniura (76476,464). There are 2 Replies. #: 9556 S15/Hot Topics 17-Feb-91 22:24:07 Sb: #9555-High Sierra CDROM fmts Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464 To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 (X) ummm ... forgot to mention ... I don't have a CDROM drive ... until I can afford one or borrow one and get the hardware SCSI interfaces ... I *sure* want to pursue this project ... #: 9601 S15/Hot Topics 22-Feb-91 18:24:50 Sb: #9555-High Sierra CDROM fmts Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: PaulSeniura 76476,464 Paul - yes, the High Sierra format has been on CDROM forum for years... but it's been superceded by the ISO9660 format since then. I don't see any reason why SCSI CDROM drives won't physically work on any system. And I think MW has a file manager, or one could be written, or for that matter, special programs could be written. But as must be pointed out to most computer owners, CDROM discs are rarely machine-independent. That is, the file system is standard, but the programs and data on the disc are _not_ in any "standard" format yet. That's why you generally can't swap discs between Macs and IBMs, and you can't use them in Amigas, KMAs, CoCos, etc. Unless... you create your own, or decode the format of the data on one, or get the authoring company to port their retrieval engine (software) to your machine. - kev #: 9572 S15/Hot Topics 20-Feb-91 13:05:55 Sb: #Market survey Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: sysop (X) I'd like to post the following message on this forum and the COCO forum. Any problem????? Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO Message to be posted follows: TO : All SUBJECT : Market survey We have received several inquiries re providing a plug-in 6809 card for the SYSTEM IV. This would be a redesign of the 6809 board Peripheral Technologies sold many years ago. Circuit changes would be made to incorporate the 'gime' chip and the Tandy ROM thereby providing (we hope) complete compatibility with the COCO3. The board could support an existing CM8 monitor or allow a VGA card/monitor in the SYSTEM IV to be used in place of the CM8. I/O would use the existing SYSTEM IV capabilites including the hard disk(s). The board would be physically redesigned so it could plug into a standard PC/XT slot. In addition, power and keyboard connectors can be incorporated to permit stand-alone operation. An adapter which would fit into one of the drive spaces could be provided to permit use of ROM PAKS. We have not started this project because we wanted your input on the desirability of such a product. Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO There is 1 Reply. #: 9580 S15/Hot Topics 21-Feb-91 07:39:03 Sb: #9572-#Market survey Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X) Ed, Of course Wayne has the final say on these things, but anticipating no problems, I'm gonna move this out of the General section and over to the more appropriate Hot Topics area. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 9605 S15/Hot Topics 22-Feb-91 23:01:42 Sb: #9580-Market survey Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Good 'nuff.. and I have no problem with it. Wayne #: 9647 S15/Hot Topics 01-Mar-91 00:45:06 Sb: #9601-High Sierra CDROM fmts Fm: PaulSeniura 76476,464 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Our local PBS station just broadcasted this week's "Computer Chronicles" and the subject was CDROMs! The companies are finally sending the same CD for both PCs and Macs with the machine accessing the appropriate application pgms. So one hopes those of us who want to hook a drive up, can call or write the software co. to get the poop on their database formats (as opposed to the ISO sector & directory formats which *should* be standard, and OS9 would need the file mgr for). I called our local CDROM expert - my goodness he didn't want "us" to be able to read these critters. He even went so far to wonder whether what we're wanting to do is a copyright violation. I said - Listen, if I go down there to plunk down $895.00 for Compton's Encyclopedia, is THAT a legal copy OR WHAT? So ... y'all see the flack I'm getting ... bunch of crap if you ask me ... this might embroil me enough to do some serious letter writing to those govmt agencies that handle this kind of stuff, from anti-trust to freedom of information in the case of those NASA CDs being shared (and Library of Congress etc.). Wonder if the Supreme Court would want to decide whether an "empire" like CDROM is turning out to be, if it's unruly to force people to buy particular kinds of computers instead of providing the format in order to access a legally-bought CD's information. IBM publishes their standards! You can find out how RFT documents work and any company can write their pgms to support that format (an idea I was hoping would encroach on the people who write OS9 word processors). It might be that Compton's, for example, *does* share its database formats with those who've bought the CD, and how to uncompress the pictures & animation. That'd be okay! Well I babbled on long enough - thx for helping & listening! -- Paul S. #: 10178 S15/Hot Topics 08-Apr-91 23:19:54 Sb: #I2C Interface Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Paul Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul; Interesting possibilities raised by the I^2C interface...... home control of zone heating/cooling, door/window security, auto-dial and play pre-recorded messagi based on event trigger, etc., etc. Kinda like an electronic home-sitter for those travelling, living alone, or just the tinkerer (that's me). Will this interface require the (promised) MM/1 bus to take advantage of some of the features? I am getting a picture of a plug-in card with TTL logic and dip relays for some of the functions described above. Is this something that IMS is planning to do? What's the latest on the shipping schedule? Are you going to be shipping kits out before the Fest? ...Jim There is 1 Reply. #: 10202 S15/Hot Topics 11-Apr-91 01:19:56 Sb: #10178-#I2C Interface Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, Many of the I^2C interface projects can be done outside of the MM/1 case. That means that most people won't EVER need to purchase the extra-slot bus. Even if someone DOES buy the extra slot bus, the extra cards may or may not use/support I^2C. That somewhat depends on third part support. Interestingly, almost all of our customers are quite happy with the existing I/O, even though IMS is committed to its expansion bus option. Anyway, the I^2C will definitely NOT REQUIRE the MM/1 extra slot bus. It should be really fun to work with, and I think will greatly satisfy the CoCo Community Craving -- you know, if you can't do hardware hacking with a computer, forget it. Grin. Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 10237 S15/Hot Topics 13-Apr-91 11:01:24 Sb: #10202-#I2C Interface Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul; Sounds good on both the I^2C and the delivery sched. Still don't have a clear picture of how to interface a 12V. relay directly to the MM/1. Maybe time to take a computer hardware course... I'm not afraid of soldering irons and wire-wrapping, but it'd be nice to know what I'm doing! BTW, on my way home last night, I saw a bright red VW Jetta for sale alongside the road -- had a Ca. license plate "MM ONE". Know anybody in Silicon Valley that's a rabid MM/1 fan?? ...Jim There is 1 Reply. #: 10272 S15/Hot Topics 15-Apr-91 02:22:30 Sb: #10237-#I2C Interface Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, Interesting about that license plate! I looked through our California listings -- we've got hundreds of names there, probably a coouple hundred in Silicon Valley/San Francisco area. No telling if it's a fan! Paul IMS There are 2 Replies. #: 10285 S15/Hot Topics 15-Apr-91 20:57:36 Sb: #10272-#I2C Interface Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) California? "MM-ONE"? It's gotta mean "Mickey Mouse". (Sorry Paul). John Wainwright There is 1 Reply. #: 10317 S15/Hot Topics 16-Apr-91 22:40:01 Sb: #10285-I2C Interface Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John; > California? "MM-ONE"? It's gotta mean "Mickey Mouse". (Sorry Paul). Naaahh! This ain't the greater LA area! (and it's not Marin county either!) No provincialism in MY reply, eh? Ooops, gotta go... the car phone is ringing, and the answering machine is in the shop! ...Jim #: 10316 S15/Hot Topics 16-Apr-91 22:39:45 Sb: #10272-#I2C Interface Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul; > Interesting about that license plate! I looked through our California > listings -- we've got hundheds of names there, probably a coouple > hundred in Silicon Valley/San Francisco area. No telling if it's a fan! Oh, well -- I wish I'd gotten the phone # but the car's been gone the past 2 days -- probably sold already. re: latest mailing Yesterday in the mail, I got a 'Dear Valued Customer' letter telling me that you hoped that I find the enclosed document enlightening. Well, sorry to say, the letter was the only thing in the envelope! What did I miss? Anything that's NOT in dl15? ...Jim There is 1 Reply. #: 10376 S15/Hot Topics 21-Apr-91 11:25:05 Sb: #10316-#I2C Interface Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, No -- it was a summary that is basically the same as on DL15. Apparently, our sales department sent out a few of the Dear Valued letters without the enclosure. If you'd like a copy, just call Mary Kay at 301 718 4960. Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 10380 S15/Hot Topics 21-Apr-91 15:44:37 Sb: #10376-#I2C Interface Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Aha! I wondered why I didn't find the "enclosed document" that I was to find interesting, but I figured it would be covered in your postings here and on D****I. BTW, how's that shipping schedule on kits going? I am fighting a terrible urge to chase UPS trucks. Just decided last week that I could make to Chicago for the R'Fest - round trip air $69.00 (couldn't pass it up). See you there. John Wainwright There is 1 Reply. #: 10433 S15/Hot Topics 24-Apr-91 12:27:52 Sb: #10380-I2C Interface Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, Great! Glad you can be there! We'll be shipping kits this week. Manufacturing delays not of our doing have aged me considerably. I'll be the guy with the white hair and cane .... We'll also be handing out some machines to those folks who would have been sent out in the first batch anyway. That only gives them about a ten day head start on the people going out in the first batch. Then we have two MORE batches to fill! Lots of orders, and they keep on comin! Paul IMS #: 10179 S15/Hot Topics 08-Apr-91 23:22:32 Sb: I2C Interface Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Paul Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul; Interesting possibilities raised by the I^2C interface...... home control of zone heating/cooling, door/window security, auto-dial and play pre-recorded message based on event trigger, etc., etc. Kinda like an electronic home-sitter for those travelling, living alone, or just the tinkerer (that's me). Will this interface require the (promised) MM/1 bus to take advantage of some of the features? I am getting a picture of a plug-in card with TTL logic and dip relays for some of the functions described above. Is this something that IMS is planning to do? What's the latest on the shipping schedule? Are you going to be shipping kits out before the Fest? ...Jim #: 10180 S15/Hot Topics 08-Apr-91 23:22:50 Sb: #MM/1 deliveries Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Paul Ward 73477,2004 (X) Mike Knudsen writes on Internet ; >Paul told me a coupla weeks ago that he expected to have kits on >hand at the Rainbowfest, to hand out to those who'd already >pre-ordered them. Saves shipping, hopefully without adding >Illinois sales tax (about $50!). Bring your tools, something >to do that nite in your hotel room :-) Mike, if you're listening, or Paul -- I would sincerely hope that living in close proximity, or being able to afford to attend the Rainbowfest would have nothing ,o do with the delivery schedule for those of us that have long ago ordered (and paid for) our MM/1's. I would think that they would be shipped first to those that had ordered them first. ..Jim There is 1 Reply. #: 10203 S15/Hot Topics 11-Apr-91 01:22:43 Sb: #10180-MM/1 deliveries Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, You have a very good point. We certainly will distribute them in chronological order. SOME computers will be shipped right before the Fest, some delivered during, and SOME delivered right after. Your system will be in one of those groups. I DO know that Mary Kay Weglein, our sales director, is VERY attuned to the needs of our customers to get them in the order that the order was taken. Best, Paul #: 10432 S15/Hot Topics 24-Apr-91 11:49:06 Sb: #TC-9 Fm: Chris Perrault 75346,165 To: Frank Hogg/ 70310,317 (X) Frank-I'm a COCO 3 user and am very interested in this TC-9 I've been hearing so much about.PLease put me on your mailing list. Chris Perrault 52 Chandler ST. Bradford,Ma 01835 CP There is 1 Reply. #: 10452 S15/Hot Topics 25-Apr-91 09:31:07 Sb: #10432-TC-9 Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663 To: Chris Perrault 75346,165 Chris, What have you heard about TC-9? Frank, if you see this, I'm interested too. Stephen Rex Goode 3127 N.E. 59th Portland, Oregon 97213 #: 10495 S15/Hot Topics 28-Apr-91 17:51:58 Sb: #10452-#TC-9 Fm: Chris Perrault 75346,165 To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X) Basicly I've heard that the TS-9 may be Mac compatible,It will have expansion slots,and that it is a far cry from the PC compatibles that are everywhere.I'm not a real OS-9 or computer genious for that matter so I really don't remember all the in depth,technical descriptions but from the sound of it,it will be real powerful e3specially for something out of the COCO family. I'm really looking forward to seeing and experiencing this machine since I always wellcome something new especially when it comes to the COCO. Chris Perrault There are 2 Replies. #: 10501 S15/Hot Topics 28-Apr-91 20:50:03 Sb: #10495-#TC-9 Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Chris Perrault 75346,165 Eh? The TC9 has a 6809 (well, perhaps a 6309, but it's equivalent) in it. It would be very hard indeed to make that emulate a Macintosh. If there's some plan to make "the Tomcat" (I put that in quotes because with so many options, I am not sure the definite article applies) emulate a Macintosh, I would very much expect that it will require an addition 680xx board. There is 1 Reply. #: 10516 S15/Hot Topics 29-Apr-91 17:39:46 Sb: #10501-#TC-9 Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Could it be the TC70 board could be used to emulate a Mac? Lee There is 1 Reply. #: 10521 S15/Hot Topics 29-Apr-91 21:06:53 Sb: #10516-TC-9 Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X) Could be--goodness knows other 680xx systems have done it. They require that one buy Mac ROMs--though that might change, what with that Asian outfit that is said to have done a clean-room Mac workalike. #: 10510 S15/Hot Topics 29-Apr-91 10:01:57 Sb: #10495-#TC-9 Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663 To: Chris Perrault 75346,165 Chris, I wonder mainly about compatibility with my current CoCo software. Rex There is 1 Reply. #: 10517 S15/Hot Topics 29-Apr-91 17:42:59 Sb: #10510-#TC-9 Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X) From what I understand the TC9 will be compatible with most if not all OS9-based application software. There will be several newly patched modules required in order to allow OS9 properly access some of the new features in the TC9. Lee There is 1 Reply. #: 10527 S15/Hot Topics 30-Apr-91 09:16:54 Sb: #10517-#TC-9 Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663 To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X) Lee, Then can I assume that DECB programs are out? Rex There is 1 Reply. #: 10530 S15/Hot Topics 30-Apr-91 21:32:14 Sb: #10527-#TC-9 Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 (X) DECB programs will be able to run with the TC9. Kenton is doing RGBDOS and Chriss Burke is doing a no cost DECB for the TC9. Expect 2-3 months for either. Frank. There are 2 Replies. #: 10536 S15/Hot Topics 01-May-91 09:53:57 Sb: #10530-#TC-9 Fm: REX GOODE 73777,3663 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) Frank, Great to hear from you. I've seen a couple of your adds in Rainbow and I'm getting more and more interested. My kids, five of them, have taken a big interest in my CoCo3. I've been waiting for some answers about TC9 so I can decide whether or not to proceed teaching them a few things about CoCo3. How do I get more info about TC9, especially about it's CoCo compatibility? How about RomPAKs? Rex There is 1 Reply. #: 10541 S15/Hot Topics 01-May-91 21:12:10 Sb: #10536-#TC-9 Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 Just give me your address and I'll send you tons of paper with advise printed all over it to encourage you to buy a{Tomcat :). Fran{ {ex There is 1 Reply. #: 10545 S15/Hot Topics 01-May-91 22:28:05 Sb: #10541-TC-9 Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 Say, speaking of the TC9--alas, I was running hither and yon during the Fest, and didn't get a chance to ask about the Tiger. Your ad says it can speed up OS-9/6809 by a factor of 2 or 3, and I was wondering how that's done. If I write a compute-bound program, will the Tiger make it run faster? #: 10537 S15/Hot Topics 01-May-91 17:32:23 Sb: #10530-#TC-9 Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) What is Kenton's address and phone #? Lee There is 1 Reply. #: 10542 S15/Hot Topics 01-May-91 21:14:27 Sb: #10537-TC-9 Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 Guys name is Joe yMShin{o and he is outside Buffalo NY. (Tonowanda) but I don't have his number here. Give me a call at the office and I'll give it to you. He did advertise a while back in Rainbow if you look over some old issues you may find it. Frank #: 10614 S15/Hot Topics 07-May-91 22:49:13 Sb: #I2C Interface Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) MM-ONE="Mickey Mouse One"! That's great! Keep in mind that Mickey is the symbol for Disney, too, and they are a group that I admire. Very professional, very concerned about cultivating the imagination of our youth -- which is, after all, where hope for the next century will spring from. Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 10618 S15/Hot Topics 07-May-91 23:17:17 Sb: #10614-I2C Interface Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Uh. But Disney won't let their employees wear moustaches. #: 10705 S15/Hot Topics 16-May-91 18:29:07 Sb: #Amiga and OS-9 Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: all Well, it's enough to make a person crazy... it's sad enough that the Atari ST almost came with OS-9 as its standard operating system, but didn't... but now we also find out (from this exchange on internet): Amiga Owner #1: "Given the grief that many of us suffered under [Amiga OS] 1.0 and 1.1, I wonder if we wouldn't have been better off with C= buying OS-9/68K, which was reasonably stable, at the time, then adding [graphics]." Amiga Owner #2: "I asked about that, at the time. The response I got indicated that nobody at Amiga had ever heard of Microware. Weird." Commodore Honcho: "Not quite accurate. In the days when we were looking for a replacement for the original CAOS (we had the tripos port in hand, but...) I talked to the folks at Microware (since I was already talking to them about another project using an OS9 varient.). At that time their unit pricing even for large volumes made their operating system uneconomical for us to use. Which was a shame." "A shame" indeed! If both the ST and Amiga had come with OS-9, perhaps we'd now be reading interviews in TIME magazine with MW President Ken Kaplan, instead of always just with Bill Gates :-(. Drat. There is 1 Reply. #: 10715 S15/Hot Topics 17-May-91 17:20:24 Sb: #10705-Amiga and OS-9 Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) ? The pricing of MW's OS-9/68K has always been on the exorbitant side. Especially after they withdrew their "personal" version OS-9. We, CoCo3 owners, really got it good with the OS-9/6809 for only $80. Granted, after Multi-Vue and the Dev. Pak are added the price breaks the $200 mark, but still you could get a lot done without the add-ons. And at $230, as I recall, it was still a good deal compared to the 68K versions. But you're right, I think MW missed a great opportunity by not catering to the ST and Amiga market. Of course, we seem to be only one side of the story based on the previous internet messages. It would be interesting to hear both sides. Lee #: 10724 S15/Hot Topics 17-May-91 22:01:39 Sb: #TC-9 Fm: MARK HAMILTON 70524,1507 To: FRANK HOGG OF FHL 70310,317 (X) HI FRANK, I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN THE TOMCAT.PLEASE SEND ME TONS OF PAPER WITH ADVICE PRINTED ALL OVER IT TO ENCOURAGE ME TO BUY A TOMCAT! MARK HAMILTON 1721 E. CAMPBELL PHOENIX,AZ. 85016 THANKS, MARK There is 1 Reply. #: 10746 S15/Hot Topics 18-May-91 22:52:17 Sb: #10724-TC-9 Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: MARK HAMILTON 70524,1507 (X) Done, now when you get this stuff you realise that you will have to buy one. Frank #: 11135 S15/Hot Topics 20-Jun-91 22:03:11 Sb: #11123-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Well, I originally ordered last July, and switched to a kit last December, and I am still waiting on mine. Mary Kay at IMS said it should have been shipped last week or early this week, so we'll see (hopefully SOON!). Waiting with baited breath, --Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 11233 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:05:08 Sb: #11135-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Colin, Mary Kay sent out some preliminary information that has been updated. Your computer is actually shipping int he shipment right AFTER Jim Peasley, so he'll be a happy camper about two days before you will. Let me know if there's anything more we can do. IMS PAUL WARD 202 232 4246 #: 11145 S15/Hot Topics 21-Jun-91 05:43:13 Sb: #11123-#MM/1 delivery Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Let's see. I'm one of those who picked up most of my MM/1 at RAINBOWFest. I'm still waiting on the I/O board (though there was a UPS sticker saying something was left at the condo office addressed to me--I'll probably peek in the window of the room where they keep such stuff this morning, since they keep pretty short hours. I don't know what it is, but I am hopeful). There is 1 Reply. #: 11234 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:06:23 Sb: #11145-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) No, not the I/O board. Testing will take place all next week. It is not trivial to test hundreds of boards, so be a little patient! As you have been so far. Best regards, Paul IMS 202 232 4246 #: 11157 S15/Hot Topics 22-Jun-91 17:49:01 Sb: #11123-#MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Original order in June or July last year - switched to kit in December (about the same as Colin). I was told that I was # 20-something (maybe 26, don't remember for sure) on the list. Watchin & Waitin. Will advise. JohnW There are 3 Replies. #: 11166 S15/Hot Topics 23-Jun-91 12:42:22 Sb: #11157-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John; Me too... ordered in July and opted for the kit when it looked as though the FCC was going to hold things up. I've been told that I'm #39. Talking to Paul last week he said that they're shipping out 35 computers twice weekly (this starting 6/10). There's 2 ways of interpreting this... 35 x 2 = 70 computers/week or 17 x 2 = 35 computers/week Either way, it would seem that both you and I should have received our MM/1ds by now. Paul said that mine is scheduled to be shipped on 6/30, which doesn't compute at all... unless they're shipping NEW orders before those from us that ordered almost a year ago. One would think that back orders would be shipped out first, and then new orders... at least that's the way I'd do it - support those that believed enough in me to plunk down their hard-earned cash when this was just an idea! Either something is rotten in Denmark, or we're not getting the full story, and I'm almost ready to chuck the idea of an MM/1. ...Jim There are 3 Replies. #: 11167 S15/Hot Topics 23-Jun-91 15:32:19 Sb: #11166-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim - or it might mean that there were a lot of people who plunked down cash a long time ago :-) Dunno. Very likely, all the small companies hand-assemble/pack the final computers, and hand-copy the disks... that's a lot of work there alone. And there's always the unexpected. Lots of that, in parts, cases, deliveries by suppliers etc. You should see some of the complaints on other forums... and they're about multimillion dollar companies! So I think continued patience will work out in this case. Y'all ever decide to move, btw? best - kev There is 1 Reply. #: 11176 S15/Hot Topics 24-Jun-91 08:53:58 Sb: #11167-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Kev; > Jim - or it might mean that there were a lot of people who plunked down > cash a long time ago :-) Dunno. Yeah, that's me. I was paid in full for my MM/1 on 12/31/90. > And there's always the unexpected. Lots of that, in parts, cases, > deliveries by suppliers etc. Understood -- no problem with the unexpected.. I kinda expected that . My problem comes from the lack of and mis-information coming from IMS. It's kinda like standing at the counter in a busy store and being 'invisible' to the clerks there. > Y'all ever decide to move, btw? best - kev Yep, we decided to move after our first trip out there last summer. Fell in love with the place. Only things holding us up are getting the house put back together and a job offer on that end. Latter may be a while, former is coming along nicely, although slowly. ...Jim There is 1 Reply. #: 11237 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:19:06 Sb: #11176-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, I hope our mistakes are not viewed by you as a slight. They are not meant to be. In general, our colleagues are damn impressed by what we've done, and IMS is very proud of its staff and of our customers. Now that we are through the major hump, we'll be very informative because now we have the TIME to be up here and elsewhere! If you have specific data you would like to see, let us know. Paul IMS 202 232 4246 There is 1 Reply. #: 11252 S15/Hot Topics 29-Jun-91 12:29:34 Sb: #11237-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul; > I hope our mistakes are not viewed by you as a slight. > > Now that we are through the major hump, we'll be very informative > because now we have the TIME to be up here and elsewhere! By the same token, I would hope that my comments about information (lack of and mis-) were not construed as 'casting aspersions'. My intent was to veice my frustrations about being 'in the dark' for so long and to hopefully clear up some of the mis-information that's been spread about. Case in point: In the 1/7/91 kit announcement it was mentioned that the MM/1 has been shipping to industrial users and developers since April, 1990. At the end, there is an invitation to place orders for FEBRUARY delivery. In the update file after the Rainbowfest: IMS announces widespread shipping of MM/1 computers. Currently, dozens of computers have been shipped... The pace of shipping is now brisk. This week has seen the shipping of dozens... I could go on, but I think younsee my point. In a dynamic situation, info must be updated on a regular basis when you're dealing with customers. I can appreciate your busy schedule and coping with unforseen events as I'm in the same situption. My customers, while they might not like the delivery schedule we've worked out, understand delays that are beyond my control, and are quite understanding when they happen -- but ONLY when I inform them that a situation has occurred! Communication, therefore, has become a major part of my job description. I apologize for putting you on the spot like this, but it looks as though my note DID trigger the info we've all been looking for. ...Jim p.s. Why don'tcha replace that crashed PC on your desk with a REAL computer? There is 1 Reply. #: 11264 S15/Hot Topics 01-Jul-91 14:45:17 Sb: #11252-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) No need to apologize for putting me on the spot, Jim! Keeping you informed has been one thing we've LIKED doing -- once again, the time crunch has been horrendous. Now things look a little freer, so we'll be up often. Sure, we've made some missteps by not communicating better, but we now have some new policies and procedures that will fix this problem. BTW, that damn PC on my desk that has crashed will be replaced VERY soon. I am really tired of not having full-screen windows on it, at the very least. Paul Incidentally, I noted that DOS 5.0 includes some neat features, like line editing and an editor better than Edlin. Wow, I'm impressed. Paul #: 11204 S15/Hot Topics 26-Jun-91 21:22:44 Sb: #11166-MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, I suspect the problem is the same as it has always been - surprises keep lousing up Paul's predictions on shipping dates. I WAS told that the units will be shipped in the same order that orders were received. I believe they will stick to that. I'm hanging in there, and I will sing out when I get mine. JohnW #: 11236 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:16:51 Sb: #11166-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, You misunderstood my numbers, but they are not far off. Still, as I told you on the phone, we ship out approximately in the order that we received the orders. The variables that go into shipping are exactly these, just so you don't think I'm keeping anything from you: Who ordered what When do we receive cables for floppies, parallel ports, etc. When are the modified cases ready Cash flow for that week When quantity purchases need to be made Man power assigned to a given day Once these factors are considered, a schedule is set up. When gaps occur, simple to assemble kits are inserted from folks who ordered later. That means that, in a given month, like June, we have approximatedly 10% of the folks being shipped out that ordered somewhat later (like a few weeks later) than folks who ship out in early July. The difference is only a few days. We work three people around the clock to get these systems out. Each system, with case and two board set, manuals, cables, boxing, labeling, and shipping, takes approximately four hours. Others take longer when we go throught inventory for extra drives, hard drives, custom cables, monitors, keyboards, and so on. It is very complex. No one here at IMS is holding you up. Data has been fluid as we have been handling literally thousands of details. Incidentally, ALL computer companies experience delays. Compaq recently told a major customer that they were unable to ship for three months. Reason? Memory chip availability at the price they wanted. In other words, they were pinching dimes and holding up big customers. At least IMS doesn't do THAT! Please do stay in touch at 202 232 4246. We'll tell you exactly what we know, and what we cannot know, and we will tell you the day your kit ships. Yours truly, Paul Ward IMS #: 11181 S15/Hot Topics 24-Jun-91 20:24:35 Sb: #11157-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) Say John, if you call IMS, they can now tell you about what day your system will be shipped. Paul Ward hisself told me that mine would be shipped on or before July 3'rd, based on the number of people before me and the rate at which they are going out. --Colin There are 2 Replies. #: 11206 S15/Hot Topics 26-Jun-91 21:31:42 Sb: #11181-#MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Thanks, Colin, just from following the messages here and on other forums, I have a pretty good idea of the shipping progress. I hope EVERYBODY will report when they receive the computers - that will keep us all up to date. JohnW There are 2 Replies. #: 11213 S15/Hot Topics 27-Jun-91 12:44:45 Sb: #11206-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, I got my MM/1 on tuesday, although I don't know what number I was on the list. One small problem, though, I forgot all about a monitor cable, so I haven't been able to fire it up yet. Do you know if its easy to make a cable for a CM-8? I'm going to try calling IMS this afternoon about one of their adapaters. Bill There are 2 Replies. #: 11214 S15/Hot Topics 27-Jun-91 20:05:55 Sb: #11213-#MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill, I don't know what the Monitor End of the CM8 cable looks like, but I do have the pin-out for the COCO end (that 10 pin connector that comes with the CM8) I had to make up a cable for the Magnavox monitor for my coco. Knowing the arrangement for the plug on the computer end of the cm8 cable, it shouldn't be too hard to cook up an adaptor for the MM1. Here goes. 1. Ground 2. Ground 3. Red 4. Green 5. Blue 6. No Connection 7. Sound 8. Horiz Sync 9. Vert Sync 10. Ground Hope this helps. JohnW There is 1 Reply. #: 11215 S15/Hot Topics 27-Jun-91 20:27:54 Sb: #11214-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, thanks for the info on the CM8 cable, now all I need is info on the MM/1 connector. The documentation for the MM/1 kit refers to an additional information sheet that contains board layout, jumper configuration, etc. but it didn't come with the kit. I have tried calling IMS for two days, but all I get is an answering machine or a busy signal. Bill There are 3 Replies. #: 11216 S15/Hot Topics 27-Jun-91 22:17:08 Sb: #11215-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill - wish I had the dope on the monitor pinout, but I don't. It's supposed to be the same as a "standard PC connector", whatever that means :-) Won't swear to it, but P8 must be the Hsync/Vsync inversion jumpers if needed. Paul's wife just got back from being away on a job for a coupla months, so mebbe he's busier than usual right now :-) Married types understand There are 2 Replies. #: 11217 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 06:37:53 Sb: #11216-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Thanks, Kev. I'll look around for the standard PC pinout, maybe someone else will have it. I can understand why its a little difficult to get through at IMS, but its so frustrating to finally have an MM/1 and not be able to use it! Bill There are 2 Replies. #: 11218 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 07:17:44 Sb: #11217-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) I'm not sure this will help but there is a Technical Reference Manual for the PC-XT at the office on a shelf (or in a drawer) behind Ed's desk. It has pinouts for various things in it. Maybe you'll get lucky! There is 1 Reply. #: 11219 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 07:56:10 Sb: #11218-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X) I managed to find a couple of files on the IBMHW and Zenith forms. It looks like the pins match up one for one on a DB9 connector, so I'm going to go pick up a coulple of DB9 connectors, I need one for the serial port too. Bill There is 1 Reply. #: 11220 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 08:07:18 Sb: #11219-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin McKay 73340,2275 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) MM/1 Connectors Video Female 9 Pin D 1 NC 3 Red 5 Blue 7 NC 9 V-Sync 2 Gnd 4 Green 6 NC 8 H-Sync These are the pinouts for the MM/1 that I got from Paul Ward over the phone the other day. Best time to talk to him seems to be between 2 pm and 3pm. (At least that's when I usually talk to him.) There is 1 Reply. #: 11222 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 10:30:50 Sb: #11220-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Colin McKay 73340,2275 (X) Thanks, Colin, I almost had it right, that is exactly what I needed. I have tried calling him then, but apparently everyone else does too, since its usually busy. The problem is compouned by the fact that I can't make long distance credit card calls from work, so have to go outside to a pay phone. Bill There is 1 Reply. #: 11242 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:26:53 Sb: #11222-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill, Just leave an office number when you call. Right now my IBM PC with my database of phone numbers has CRASHED -- well, serves me right -so I can't get to your number until find and fix the faulty sector. Paul Who is, incidentally, using an MM/1 for EVERYTHING else! #: 11241 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:24:59 Sb: #11217-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill, One thing we have begun to implement is a voice contact with each customer before shipping. It seems as though what people order and what we send are accurate, but what people actually NEED is different, and we are learning the questions to ask, e.g., what monitor are you using? Best, Paul IMS #: 11227 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 15:42:42 Sb: #11216-MM/1 delivery Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Kev, I did have the jumper descriptions all along, I was looking for an actual diagram, but the jumpers are listed in the back of the kit installation guide. The descriptions could have been more thorough, but the info is adequate for what I need. P8 does set logic of HSYNC and VSYNC. Bill #: 11240 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:23:24 Sb: #11215-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill, I got your call on the machine, but did not catch your phone number. I will email you jumper configuration. CM-8 video and MM/1 video connectors are pin for pin compatible. Just ignore line 10. Paul IMS #: 11293 S15/Hot Topics 05-Jul-91 07:11:37 Sb: #11215-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill, If you ordered soon enough (as in when IMS said that the MM-1 was standard with a CM-8 connector) then they will give you a cable FREE (if you really care to wait for them to ship it, that is...). There is also the pinout for the MM-1 video connector in the latest issue of The OSK'er. I believe it matches the MM-1 pin-for-pin. If you want me to look it up for you, just yell and I'll be glad to do it. -- Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 11295 S15/Hot Topics 05-Jul-91 09:36:22 Sb: #11293-MM/1 delivery Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Colin, thanks, but I have it working now. I think I will ask IMS to send me one of their adapters. Bill #: 11239 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:21:48 Sb: #11213-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill, We ar getting a new passle of CM-8 adapters next week. Call me and I'll expedite one to you. They ar emade by the loving hands of Mark Griffith. Paul IMS 202 232 4246 2pm - 5pm There is 1 Reply. #: 11251 S15/Hot Topics 29-Jun-91 10:51:44 Sb: #11239-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul, Thanks, but I managed to put one together myself, not only that, but it works! I was temporarily stumped by the "backwards" color command, thought I had red and green reversed in the adapter, then, of course I noticed the color.note file. Bill There is 1 Reply. #: 11263 S15/Hot Topics 01-Jul-91 14:40:15 Sb: #11251-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) I think Brett Wynkoop is selling some OSK / MM/1 stuff with a neato enhanced color command. Give him a call at home at 212 567-7617 to order. Or you can just place the order with us. Try Brett first though, so he can get hte benefit of the work he has put in so far. Best, Paul IMS #: 11292 S15/Hot Topics 05-Jul-91 07:08:21 Sb: #11206-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) BTW, due to memory chip delays, my shipping date has been bumped from July 3 to July 8. Oh well, after waiting this long, what's a few more days? -- Colin There are 2 Replies. #: 11300 S15/Hot Topics 05-Jul-91 20:47:49 Sb: #11292-#MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Oh, well, probably not too much moving in this country between the 3rd and the 8th anyway. Hang in there. JohnW There are 2 Replies. #: 11304 S15/Hot Topics 06-Jul-91 11:26:27 Sb: #11300-MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) Like I've said before, when you've waited this long, what's a few more days? :-) --Colin #: 11338 S15/Hot Topics 10-Jul-91 23:43:52 Sb: #11300-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, Shall we doublecheck your order? Please call Thursday or Friday. In the meantime, I'll try to call you. Best, paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 11356 S15/Hot Topics 12-Jul-91 22:09:16 Sb: #11338-#MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Hi Paul, Since I live alone and work during the day, I am hard to catch on the phone before 5 or 6 EST. I am home most evenings and weekends. I will call you Thursday or Friday. Ummm, when we "doublecheck" my order, which of us will be looking at a box of computer parts? - In other words, does this mean it will be shipped sometime after next Thursday or Friday, (whimper), or you have already shipped it and want to know if I got everything I wanted (LARGE Grin)? How's it going with the "old" SCSI chips in the second boards? (If you toss a few in the box with my MM1, I'll be happy to test them and ship back all but one- hehe). John Wainwright There is 1 Reply. #: 11359 S15/Hot Topics 12-Jul-91 23:36:27 Sb: #11356-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) GRIN. Your box is being burned in now. Shipment will be by UPS going out sometime Tuesday or Wednesday. Sorry I can't be more specific, but you are one of fourteen machines going out on those two days. Anyway, BEFORE we send it, we need to make sure we are synchronized. We have an order summary printed, but often Mary Kay Weglein did not ask questions like: Do you need a CM-8 adapter cable? Do you need a 5.25" floppy to transfer data to the MM/1 from your CoCo? So give a call.If you will be in over the weekend, call 202 232 4246 and leave a message to that effect. I check the office voice mail once a day over the weekend. Best, Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 11366 S15/Hot Topics 13-Jul-91 19:00:33 Sb: #11359-#MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) (GRINNING) I will be at home on Sunday morning - will leave a message on your machine. In case I miss connecting, here is some info. Monitor - I have a Magnavox analog monitor xCM535 (forgot first character of the model) - 640x200 analog or digital - uses an 8-pin DIN plug for input. I have a home-made cable to connect it to the COCO, planned to just put a second plug on the same cable when I got the MM1, but if you have a pre-made cable for the magnavox, I'll buy it. Disks - My COCO has both 5-1/4 and 3-1/2 disks. As long as the highdensity drive in the MM1 can read a 720k 3-1/2 floppy, I should have no problem with data transfer. I have a keyboard (NOT the brand that someone mentioned he had trouble with). (I also have a 40m SCSI hard drive that I hope will work when the second board comes through). I also have a large box of tools and a lot of assorted connectors and wire - that MM1 WILL be up and running the day it arrives. John Wainwright There is 1 Reply. #: 11378 S15/Hot Topics 15-Jul-91 01:30:21 Sb: #11366-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, I got a confirmation Saturday that your machine will be shipped on Tuesday. OK, Actually he said Monday. But with Murphy's law, Tuesday. Sounds like you're set. No need to throw in a CM-8 adapter cable for ya. I would recommend you start making that monitor cable. Best, Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 11387 S15/Hot Topics 15-Jul-91 22:15:30 Sb: #11378-#MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul, Great! I'll be looking for the delivery truck. Digging out soldering iron. (Who was it that said "Murphy was an optimist"?) John Wainwright There is 1 Reply. #: 11392 S15/Hot Topics 16-Jul-91 17:00:22 Sb: #11387-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, Bad news! No, your computer WAS shipped! But you WON't need a soldering iron! Too bad.... Grin. Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 11416 S15/Hot Topics 20-Jul-91 20:32:00 Sb: #11392-MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 Paul, It's HERE. The MM/1 arrived Thursday. I am a "happy camper". Re the message on your office phone, the 3.5 in high density drive that came with it was DEAD. It took me a while to make sure I didn't have some jumper in the wrong place (tried everything but exorcism and explosives) I bought another drive (I had planned to get a second one anyway) - the second drive worked, but wouldn't get all the way through a FORMAT - hung up at cluster 58h - sometimes a little further. Now I was sure I had fouled up somewhere (nobody gets TWO bad drives in a row, right?). More checking. After several hours, I took BOTH drives to my local PC guy and hooked them to a working "286". Sure enough, first one DEAD, second one wouldn't format. Third drive did it. Just finished making backups of all the distribution disks so I can do some serious fiddling. Wanted to use the MM/1 to post this message, but the 9 to 25 pin Rs-232 adaptor I have is the wrong gender (Murphy is with me) - I'll get one tommorrow. This message complements of my faithful old Tandy 2000 - can't use the COCO either, it lost its monitor to the MM/1. I'd swear I heard the COCO whimper when I swiped it's Magnavox - I may have to get it one of those close-out CM-8s to console it. Back to my new toy. Later, Oh, I almost forgot, where do I ship that DEAD drive? John Wainwright #: 11337 S15/Hot Topics 10-Jul-91 23:42:56 Sb: #11292-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Colin, We got your machine in from the factory today. We are checking ALL of the new boards out, and presuming that they all pass, yours should be along quickly. Paul IMS #: 11238 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:20:31 Sb: #11181-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Colin, Actually, I read off our schedule when yours is going out. We are one day behind in that schedule, and I predict we will pick up that day next week. So you are on for the 3rd. Best, Paul #: 11235 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:08:26 Sb: #11157-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, According to my records, you were either shipped today or will be shipped next Monday. The schedule I have was printed about ten days ago. It should be relatively up to date. Give a call to me next Monday afternoon, i should be able to let you know if it went out that day! Best regards, Paul IMS 202 232 4246 2pm to 5pm There is 1 Reply. #: 11246 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 19:17:05 Sb: #11235-MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Good news! Thanks, Paul - I'll try to call Monday to confirm. JohnW #: 11190 S15/Hot Topics 25-Jun-91 10:35:27 Sb: #11123-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin McKay 73340,2275 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) I am number 19 on the list. According to Paul Ward, my system was shipped out last Thursday, June 20. I haven't received it yet though. (I live in Canada, so it is probably tied up at customs.) Anyway, I dispute Paul's statement in his posting on 14 June that "dozens" of systems had been shipped. Better not have been, as I was number 19 on the list. ;-)!! Hopefully mine will be here soon. Ken Scales (#21) has his machine, but it was initially sent without the disks. They arrived yesterday though. (24 June) There is 1 Reply. #: 11207 S15/Hot Topics 26-Jun-91 21:37:49 Sb: #11190-#MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Colin McKay 73340,2275 (X) Wellllll, if you are speaking in "dozens" and you have shipped 13 of them, --that's more than a dozen, so it's dozens. (Right?) ;) JohnW There are 2 Replies. #: 11212 S15/Hot Topics 27-Jun-91 11:36:36 Sb: #11207-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin McKay 73340,2275 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) Well, no. Dozens implies (at least to me) more than one dozen, ie two dozen, or three dozen. Not a dozen plus one. Anyway, a moot point since mine has been shipped. Its probably sitting in customs right now. There is 1 Reply. #: 11244 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:30:42 Sb: #11212-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Colin McKay 73340,2275 (X) Colin, Yes, it has been confirmed by North Carolina that yours was seen sitting waiting for UPS a couple of days ago, so it surely is either on its way on the Big Grey Truck, or at customs. Paul IMS #: 11243 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 16:29:33 Sb: #11207-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) You gotta count the people at the Fest we shipped to, as well. Your system is going out with 19, 20, 23, 24 and 25 -- so you can see there is a LITTLE skipping around -- as explained before it has to do with several variables. But we are only one day behind now! Feels good, BTW. Paul IMS 202 232 4246 #: 11245 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 17:27:52 Sb: #MM/1 up and running Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: all Well, after a few startup problems (all mine, by the way, the kit went together flawlessly) I now have a working MM/1. Lots to learn, now that I can really get my hands on OSK. From what Paul Ward has said (msg 11226) we should be getting I/O boards soon, then I can really get going, since I can hook up a hard disk. I picked up a CM-8 for $134 at a local Radio Shack today, so that will be my MM/1 monitor for now. Bill There are 2 Replies. #: 11247 S15/Hot Topics 28-Jun-91 19:25:07 Sb: #11245-#MM/1 up and running Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) (applause) Should have mine soon - Paul said shipping today or Monday. There is 1 Reply. #: 11266 S15/Hot Topics 01-Jul-91 14:48:18 Sb: #11247-MM/1 up and running Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, We are copying floppies today for those shipments. Some new stuff on those disks,too! Further word will be announced here. Best, Paul IMS #: 11265 S15/Hot Topics 01-Jul-91 14:47:33 Sb: #11245-#MM/1 up and running Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill, We are now beta testing a hard disk driver that is a screamer. The driver that you have on your distribution disks is quite nice -- but THIS ONE ... screech, ROAR!!! Takes off like a bat out of he**. Quantum Pro logs in at 1.8 Megabytes/sec. Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 11270 S15/Hot Topics 01-Jul-91 17:47:37 Sb: #11265-#MM/1 up and running Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul, That's fast! I'm online now with the MM/1 and Sterm. What is out there in the terminal program market that I could use for VT52 or VT100 emulation? I need to dial in to the mainframe at work (they're buying me a 9600 baud modem) but I need something like VT100 to pull it off. I wrote my own terminal program for my CoCo, but really don't want to do that again! Bill There is 1 Reply. #: 11275 S15/Hot Topics 02-Jul-91 10:50:21 Sb: #11270-MM/1 up and running Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill, You should ask Kevin Darling about VT52 or VT100 emulation stuff. I know he's been trying to get some compatibility, based on his own instincts about What Is Good To Do, and based on pressure he's getting from NC State. Best Paul IMS #: 11388 S15/Hot Topics 15-Jul-91 23:59:19 Sb: Upload Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: [F] sysop (X) Hi I uploaded a file to dl15 on the Tiger/TC9. Did you get it? Could you post it? Thanks Frank #: 11509 S15/Hot Topics 26-Jul-91 02:02:37 Sb: #11337-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 Hi Paul... Any chance of my finding out where I am on the delivery list for MM-1's? My name is Glen Hathaway. If I have to switch to a kit to get the machine sooner, please go ahead and make the change to the order. If you try to call me, you may get an answering machine that says "Leask and Sons Mechanical". That's my house - the business is run out of the back yard. Try (604)-657-3192 (my cellular) instead... Thanks. #: 11529 S15/Hot Topics 29-Jul-91 20:14:26 Sb: #11416-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, Ship that drive to IMS Shipping 108 Elmwood Terrace Greensboro NC 27408 Include a note describing the problem, the diagnosis, and request a replacement. Thanks! Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 11545 S15/Hot Topics 30-Jul-91 21:20:24 Sb: #11529-#MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Thanks for the info, Paul. I'll get it shipped. Learning how to use all this stuff little by little - think I'll dive into OddJob next. JohnW There is 1 Reply. #: 11585 S15/Hot Topics 02-Aug-91 17:41:08 Sb: #11545-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) OddJob is one heck of a language. Call TechnoTeacher for support, too - they are extremely knowledgeable about OSK, UNIX, and multimedia stuff. Their phone number can be found by typing oj -? Talk to ya soon! Best, Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 11588 S15/Hot Topics 02-Aug-91 20:53:57 Sb: #11585-MM/1 delivery Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 Thanks Paul. Another question, where is the "rdump" command. Did it get left out? I thought I would poke around in the LIB files and see what I could learn. JohnW #: 11531 S15/Hot Topics 29-Jul-91 20:22:31 Sb: #11509-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Glen, Taken care of -- I'll call you to confirm your order this week. Best, Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 11548 S15/Hot Topics 30-Jul-91 23:05:17 Sb: #11531-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Thanks Paul... Waiting for your cal... If you get the answering machine after 6 or 7 rings (meaning the Cellular has call-forwarded you to the house), leave a message. I usually call and get my messages 2 or 3 times a day. I'll get back to you right away. I am interested (if you have any available) in also getting a hard drive packaged with the new machine rather than having to right away have to tear down and adapt my old 30 megger off the CoCo3. I am interested in something 40 - 80 megs (larger, if the price is right). Glen Hathaway 71446,166 There is 1 Reply. #: 11586 S15/Hot Topics 02-Aug-91 17:42:51 Sb: #11548-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 Glen, Tried calling you. Will try again over the weekend -- hope you're in! Reaction to the MM/1 has been OVERWHELMING. I now get double the phone calls I used to get, and the literature is going out FAST. It really keeps me from doing other stuff I have to get done, like the rep marketing plan and so on. Best, Paul IMS #: 11606 S15/Hot Topics 03-Aug-91 22:47:15 Sb: #11293-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Colin, in your July 5th message you mentioned "latest issue of OSKer." From that, I gather it has published an issue since the April Rainbowfest -is that right? If so, it looks good for that mag. 'Bout time I subscribed, maybe? --mike k There is 1 Reply. #: 11616 S15/Hot Topics 04-Aug-91 16:13:09 Sb: #11606-MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 YEAH, SEEMS LIKE I GOT THAT ISSUE (#5) MAYBE JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. IT'S WORTH THE $12. --COLIN #: 11634 S15/Hot Topics 05-Aug-91 21:22:34 Sb: #11586-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Hi Paul... This was a long weekend in B.C. and I was gone fishing. Try me this week sometime - best would be at 7 AM my time - probably 10 AM your time. That's when I'm just getting started (COFFEE!), etc. There are 2 Replies. #: 11650 S15/Hot Topics 06-Aug-91 21:14:35 Sb: #11634-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Hi Glen. Noticed in your message to Paul that you are a fellow BCer. Nice to know that I'm not the only OS9er in the whole province! Whereabouts are you? There is 1 Reply. #: 11651 S15/Hot Topics 06-Aug-91 22:39:50 Sb: #11650-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Hi Bob... I live in Richmond, right next door to Vancouver. Where are you? Heard of your program, VED. You're working on a MM/1 version, right? How much? When available, etc.? There are 2 Replies. #: 11655 S15/Hot Topics 07-Aug-91 00:42:41 Sb: #11651-MM/1 delivery Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Hi Glen. Just thought I would give you a chance to see a message from my new toy (TC70) Boy is it a good thing that I got this running - this afternoon the COCO died. Will run happily and run rom games but cannot receive data from the disks. I can control them - do dirs etc - but just get no data. Sounds like that famous replace the 68b09 bug has bit. This comes courtesy STERM 1.51 on the TC70 where it runs like a champ - not even recompiled. Funny thing is it runs from the screen fine but fails from the /TERM terminal whereas the comms program supplied with the machine runs from /TERM but dies from the screen (labelled VT70). Time to download the source and try to figure things out. #: 11672 S15/Hot Topics 07-Aug-91 20:56:52 Sb: #11651-MM/1 delivery Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Glen, Guess we're not exactly neighbours! I live just north of Creston, way over in the kootenays where the lake is cold, the sun shines a lot and the air is fresh! I do get out to the coast from time to time -- next time I'll try to give you call before I come out. Maybe our schedules will mesh and we can get together. VED/68000 is available right now! It is $39.95 plus the usual $3.00 s/h. For folks who've purchased the 6809 version from me in the past there is a small discount available. #: 11665 S15/Hot Topics 07-Aug-91 16:42:46 Sb: #11634-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Hope your fishing was great! I have confirmed your order conversion to a kit and put on high up on the schedule -- we are still shipping out in the order that they MM/1's were reserved with a deposit, so you're right up there! Best, Paul IMS #: 11662 S15/Hot Topics 07-Aug-91 16:38:54 Sb: #11588-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) I thought RDUMP was on the distribution disks! I'll look. If not, it will surely be on the disk update we're putting together, with some new, additional stuff. Best, Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 11675 S15/Hot Topics 07-Aug-91 22:03:04 Sb: #11662-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul, Got my MM/1 today. Had a little trouble getting the drives hooked up, but after I figured that out it went smoothly. Still trying everything out! It looks good so far, though. --Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 11742 S15/Hot Topics 12-Aug-91 22:05:14 Sb: #11675-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 Colin, Let me know if you need anything at all. In fact, if you can call me sometime this week, I'd like to take notes on your reactions. Best, Paul IMS #: 11688 S15/Hot Topics 09-Aug-91 04:53:04 Sb: #Help and the MM/1 Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413 To: Paul 73477,2004 (X) Paul: When will the next issue of the INSIDER be mail and When are the I/O boards going to be shipped? Are you going to update the XMODE command? Keith There is 1 Reply. #: 11743 S15/Hot Topics 12-Aug-91 22:07:15 Sb: #11688-Help and the MM/1 Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Keith H. March 70541,1413 Next INSIDER is in production. I have sent down three pages of neat stuff. I/O boards are shipping. Patience -- we're concentrating on the MM/1 Personal systems, and we're catching up with I/O boards after that. Why should we update XMODE? Are you thinking DMODE? Can you provide some details? Incidentally, thanks for your disk. Have you recieved it back yet? Paul IMS #: 11768 S15/Hot Topics 13-Aug-91 23:42:34 Sb: #11655-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 Hi Bob... Sounds like fun! Can't wait til I get my new toy. There's nothing I like better than new toys... #: 11769 S15/Hot Topics 13-Aug-91 23:43:58 Sb: #11672-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Hi Bob... Sounds good. May be ordering a copy yet... #: 11770 S15/Hot Topics 13-Aug-91 23:45:32 Sb: #11665-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Hi Paul.... Fishing was good - not great, though. As for the computer order, the sooner the better! Can't wait... There is 1 Reply. #: 11842 S15/Hot Topics 19-Aug-91 20:55:07 Sb: #11770-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 Glen, As you are an early order guy AND a conversion, you should be in the next batch! Best, Paul IMS #: 11780 S15/Hot Topics 14-Aug-91 20:36:10 Sb: #11743-#Help and the MM/1 Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Hi Paul, Got my second 1.44m floppy drive today, thanks again for the quick help on that. My MM/1 now has some more "elbow room". Now, if I could just take that 40m SCSI HD off the shelf and do something with it .... (meanwhile , I'm still learning to use what I have already. ) I thought OddJob was a program, to me it looks more like a programming language (and a big one too!). Much to learn. Sooner or later, there has to be a "Technical Manual" - I want to get on the list for that one. Keep up the good work! JohnW There is 1 Reply. #: 11843 S15/Hot Topics 19-Aug-91 20:58:09 Sb: #11780-Help and the MM/1 Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, Great going! You can try the diskcaching on your /d0 drive for your commands. Then you can use /d1 for your data and so on. OddJob is a language indeed, much like AWK and the UNIX C Shell, all rolled into one. Darn powerful. Very deep. Technical Manual is being prepared by Mark Griffith. Should be out by Christmas. Paul IMS #: 11825 S15/Hot Topics 18-Aug-91 10:24:00 Sb: #MM1 & unknown pins Fm: William Phelps 75100,265 To: ALL I have a few simple questions... What is the pinout of t0? What are the pinouts of the jumpers on the mother board? Any help would be appreciated. William There are 2 Replies. #: 11832 S15/Hot Topics 18-Aug-91 21:30:04 Sb: #11825-#MM1 & unknown pins Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: William Phelps 75100,265 (X) t0 should be a canonical PClonoid DB-9 serial connection--at least the PClonoid cables I got to connect to DB-25 worked fine on it and the other serial outputs from my MM/1. For the rest, all I know is what I saw on the kit assembly instructions, and I fear I can't deduce what some of those jumpers do from the brief descriptions given. There is 1 Reply. #: 11833 S15/Hot Topics 18-Aug-91 22:35:06 Sb: #11832-MM1 & unknown pins Fm: William Phelps 75100,265 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Thanks, the video was PC-style, and t0 seemed PC-style. I just wanted to verify the handshaking lines. William #: 11838 S15/Hot Topics 19-Aug-91 00:42:01 Sb: #11825-#MM1 & unknown pins Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: William Phelps 75100,265 (X) The pinout of /t0 is as follows: 1 - CD 2 - RX 3 - TX 4 - DTR 5 - GND 6 - n/c 7 - n/c 8 - n/c 9 - n/c (I hope that's right). Note that normal PC/AT style DB9->DB25 adapters do have the correct pinout, but since CTS/RTS are N/C on the MM1 T0 port, some modems will not want to talk to it. The solution is to tell the modem to ignore CTS/RTS handshaking if it can, otherwise get a break out box and tie pins 4-5-6 together (on DB25 to modem that is). StG There is 1 Reply. #: 11848 S15/Hot Topics 20-Aug-91 04:56:35 Sb: #11838-#MM1 & unknown pins Fm: William Phelps 75100,265 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X) Thanks, that really helps me out. So, the last four pins aren't connected huh. William There is 1 Reply. #: 11860 S15/Hot Topics 20-Aug-91 21:29:01 Sb: #11848-MM1 & unknown pins Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: William Phelps 75100,265 (X) Not according to what few docs I have... I suppose I get get out my voltmeter and check... StG #: 11866 S15/Hot Topics 21-Aug-91 00:27:27 Sb: #Serial ports? Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Paul Ward 73477,2004 Paul; I've looked all through the files that I've gotten from CIS and the literature that came from IMS, and I can't find anything about the change from 2 serial ports (one of them factory configurable for MIDI) to one serial port. When did the config of the system change? And why? Thanks, ...Jim There are 2 Replies. #: 11871 S15/Hot Topics 21-Aug-91 10:15:40 Sb: #11866-Serial ports? Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim - you mean on the first board? There are two serial ports... one out the back, and a header for the other (MIDI configurable) one. The header is the brown 6-pin jobbie back by the bus... it requires what they call a "paddle board" (which are being made now, I think). #: 11880 S15/Hot Topics 22-Aug-91 03:20:30 Sb: #11866-Serial ports? Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 As kev says, there is two ports. One of them may be used for MIDI 'instead'. The switchable MIDI/Serial (T1) port is, in fact, user selectable. There is now a jumper to set the xtal frequency, although you do have to buy the proper 'paddle' board from IMS to have the right connections... StG #: 11897 S15/Hot Topics 23-Aug-91 00:24:38 Sb: #11842-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 Hi Paul... Right On! As for phoning me, if you can't catch me, keep trying. I can be hard to reach at times. Business is quite good right now - keeps me hopping! I manage a plumbing/heating/gasfitting business - Leask Mechanical Ltd. Try to reach me at around 7 A.M. my time (Pacific), before my day takes off - after that, things get hectic! Talk to ya later... #: 11953 S15/Hot Topics 25-Aug-91 22:59:06 Sb: #11634-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 Hey Glen, just a reminder that verrrry soon there will be an ULTIMUSE for that MM/1 of yours. I recall you were too busy to do much music recently, but if you got time to play with an MM/1, sooner or later you'll want some software to run on it, grins -- mike k There is 1 Reply. #: 11972 S15/Hot Topics 26-Aug-91 19:27:03 Sb: #11953-MM/1 delivery Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 How soon is soon, and do you need beta testers? (Sigh...I shouldn't volunteer, because I doubt that I'd have time to really exercise it properly.) #: 11925 S15/Hot Topics 24-Aug-91 10:49:26 Sb: Troubles and Woe Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Paul Ward 73477,2004 Paul; Trouble... right here in River City!! The fan in the PS shot craps 2 days ago. It runs (very noisily) for 2-3 minutes and then locks up. The MM/1 is now totally inoperable. How do I go about getting a replacement? adThanksvance, ...Jim #: 11952 S15/Hot Topics 25-Aug-91 22:56:33 Sb: #11880-Serial ports? Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 As I understand it, the MIDI-able port can be software setup to take clock from an external source on one of the header poins, so the built-in crystal is ignored. The MIDI crystal to supply that external clock is on the paddle board. At least that's how the prototype qwquickie hack MIDI paddle board I have works, tho I think it goes into one of the extra serial ports on the I/O board, tho I might be wrong there. Anyway, that ability to accept external buad rate clock could let you use a serial port for *lots* of things... mike k #: 11957 S15/Hot Topics 26-Aug-91 01:06:00 Sb: MM/1 & floppies Fm: William Phelps 75100,265 To: ALL Have any MM/1 owners successfully used a 5 1/4" floppy drive with the MM/1? If so, how did you do it? William #: 11974 S15/Hot Topics 26-Aug-91 21:26:51 Sb: #11957-MM/1 & floppies Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: William Phelps 75100,265 (X) Funny you shold ask. the A.R.R.L (Ham Radio) Convention hit my home town and I picked up a 1.2 Meg 5-1/4 (TEAC) drive fairly cheap. The drive descriptor that I finally got to work (after many tries) looks just like the d0 and d1 supplied for the 3-1/2 inch disks, except for sct and tos, which are both hex 1c (28 sectors per track). That gives me 1.14 megs. I also played with a "standard" 360k 5-1/4 drive, but never could get it to work. I have also failed miserably in attempts to get the 1.2m drive to read a 360k disk - not sure it can be done. I found that 28-sector figure for the 1.2 meg disk by experiment - started with 16 sectors and it worked - 30 bombed, 26 worked, 29 bombed, 28 seems to be the max. If you haven't checked out the moded command yet, try it - I used it to make a d2 descriptor out of d1. I load and iniz it from my startup file (couldn't do that with level II). Good Luck John Wainwright #: 11982 S15/Hot Topics 27-Aug-91 03:47:14 Sb: #11957-MM/1 & floppies Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: William Phelps 75100,265 (X) Yes, I have a 5.25 floppy on my MM1. And, it works correctly. And, I recall that it was a major pain in the rear end to figure out the one cable combination that would make it work right. If you have one of those 'twisty' cables, then I suggest doing: 1) replace it with a 'straight' cable (use drive select 0 and 1) 2) PC drives (who use the twisted cables) use only DS 1 and 2. Because they skip #0, try re-assigning your drives for 1 and 2. Then play with which connector works on which drive... If you still can't get it to work, give me a buzz @ 317-668-8878. STG #: 11977 S15/Hot Topics 26-Aug-91 22:53:30 Sb: #11953-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Hi Mike... You bet! I will definitely be shopping for some midi software. I also plan to write some (if I ever have time). Maybe I'll actually finish a project for once in my life! #: 11981 S15/Hot Topics 27-Aug-91 03:35:51 Sb: #11952-Serial ports? Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Naw, from the poking over the machine and schematics that I have (mind you, things may have changed - though I doubt they would have this), the MIDI-able port is selectable for either normal serial or MIDI clock rate. The MIDI crystal isn't on the paddle board, as they just stole the midi clock rate needed from some other circuitry (don't have the schematic's here or I'd refresh my memory) and bring both clocks to a jumper select on the main board. Maybe your 'quickie hack' system is earlier than mine (late last year)?? Although, I see no reason why someone couldn't bring their own clock into the select jumper... StG #: 12050 S15/Hot Topics 02-Sep-91 10:43:58 Sb: #12034-MM/1 & floppies Fm: William Phelps 75100,265 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X) Thanks for the 'cover' but, hopefully it will be taken care by the update driver. William #: 12278 S15/Hot Topics 18-Sep-91 19:12:55 Sb: Mac/OS-9 Fm: sam 70731,3703 To: hot topics Check out OS-9/680xx for the Macintosh. A full implementation of OS-9/680xx built on the Macintosh hardware platform. All Macs are supported from the + to the IIfx, including the Mac portable. Multiple shell windows and mac toolbox support from Mac/OS-9 programs. Multifinder/System 6/System 7 compatible. If you are looking for a portable OS-9 computer, or want to do your OS-9 development on a Mac (using Mac editors and other tools,) consider OS-9 for the Macintosh. Ultrascience Wheeling, IL 708.808.9060 #: 12318 S15/Hot Topics 20-Sep-91 15:44:57 Sb: #11866-Serial ports? Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, We did NOT change! You get TWO serial ports with a Personal System (i.e., sans I/O board), and a THIRD with the I/O board. Your confusion stems from the fact that we have yet to send your second serial port for your I/O board. The chips are being purchased for a new batch to go out. It is a small printed circuit board that hosts a Motorola serial chip and a dual-row header for jumpering various serial signals. Some customers have theirs, some do not. So, you are right! Paul IMS #: 12319 S15/Hot Topics 20-Sep-91 15:45:45 Sb: #11897-MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Glen, I thnk we're all set up now on your order! Thanks for the tip on calling you... Bst, Paul IMS #: 12320 S15/Hot Topics 20-Sep-91 15:46:56 Sb: #11925-Troubles and Woe Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, Yours is the second power supply that has crapped out -- looks like a QC problem with our supplier. They are warrantied,and you and I have talked about the correct procedure. Do let me know what else I can do in the meantime. Thanks! Best, paul IMS #: 12326 S15/Hot Topics 20-Sep-91 16:14:46 Sb: #11780-#Help and the MM/1 Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) Technical Overview will be for sale at the fest for cheap. A more comprehensive Technical Manual is also in the works for 1992 release. Paul IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 12345 S15/Hot Topics 20-Sep-91 20:56:23 Sb: #12326-#Help and the MM/1 Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Thanks, Paul. Don't think I'll be able to make it to Atlanta, but I'll find a way to get hold of one (technical overview) - could I phone in an order? John Wainwright There is 1 Reply. #: 12384 S15/Hot Topics 23-Sep-91 16:00:57 Sb: #12345-Help and the MM/1 Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, You sure can order over the phone. Call at 202 232 4246. I have had a sudden increase in phone activity of the last three weeks (the Fall season is here!), making it a challenge to keep my phone mail box empty (it holds up to 95 messages) each day. But do keep trying. Tentative price is $39.95. Best, Paul IMS #: 12331 S15/Hot Topics 20-Sep-91 16:33:38 Sb: #11825-#MM1 & unknown pins Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: William Phelps 75100,265 (X) William, Tech Overview manual will be ready by early October. In the meantime, you can call Mark Griffith (call me for phone number) for pinout info. Many of the jumpers on the CPU board are for video sync, IsquaredC, and VSC signals. Most are designated in the Kit Instructions. Details can be found in the interim from Mark Griffith and the Signetics manuals on the 66470, 68070, and IsquaredC. The September issue of Embedded Systems Programming contains a nice article on IsquaredC, and references source code to be found on CompuServe somehwere. GIve me a call and I'll tell you more about the ESP article and the source code. May interest you! Best, paul IMS PS Please do call for Mark's number. There is 1 Reply. #: 12377 S15/Hot Topics 23-Sep-91 01:44:16 Sb: #12331-#MM1 & unknown pins Fm: William Phelps 75100,265 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) You will receive a call soon. William There is 1 Reply. #: 12385 S15/Hot Topics 23-Sep-91 16:02:02 Sb: #12377-MM1 & unknown pins Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: William Phelps 75100,265 William, Keep trying if the mailbox is full. I try to clear it out every night. Best, Paul IMS #: 12332 S15/Hot Topics 20-Sep-91 16:52:19 Sb: #11957-#MM/1 & floppies Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: William Phelps 75100,265 (X) Make sure the 5.25 inch floppy is NOT terminated. In terms of Dmode'ing to make sure you can read and write, for a quick, sweet answer, check with KK Darling. Paul IMS (I mention Kevin not because he is an IMS employee or a support person, but because he constantly transfers stuff between his CoCo and the MM/1, and I do not.) Best Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 12378 S15/Hot Topics 23-Sep-91 01:48:02 Sb: #12332-#MM/1 & floppies Fm: William Phelps 75100,265 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Actually I think the problem is the VERSION of the drivers that I have. William There is 1 Reply. #: 12386 S15/Hot Topics 23-Sep-91 16:02:51 Sb: #12378-MM/1 & floppies Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: William Phelps 75100,265 William, THere are some new drivers floating around our developers that are improved. I have not yet received them, but should have them soon. Best, Paul IMS #: 12333 S15/Hot Topics 20-Sep-91 16:55:45 Sb: #12034-MM/1 & floppies Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 Scott, Hee, hee!! Naturally, I'd like to fix up William's thing with the 5.25" drive. Have grabbed your messages and will follow up! Best, paul ims #: 12361 S15/Hot Topics 21-Sep-91 11:24:13 Sb: More questions? Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Paul Ward Paul; Glad to see you back 'on-line' after so long! Bet your 'messages waiting' counter was WAY up there, eh? Mark called me about 15 minutes ago to report that the pallette controller was the culprit on my MM/1 and that he'd already replaced it and tested it. Should be headed back West on Monday. Can you give me an approximate date for the I/O and 2nd serial boards to be shipped? As someone else just mentioned, swapping floppies - even 1.4M floppies - is a royal pain when you're trying to accomplish something! And the system memory gets kind of skinny too, even tho it's twice what my CoCo has! Do you have an address/phone# for those Signetics data manuals that you mentioned in one of your replies yesterday? Any other sources of data for programming/interfacing that you have would also be welcomed! Thanks, ..Jim #: 12469 S15/Hot Topics 02-Oct-91 00:48:26 Sb: #11972-MM/1 delivery Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Soon is like amonth or two, now that the needed OSK device drivers are starting to appear, and I figured how to do without double-click detection on the mouse. Yeah, ya can't beta test without really flogging the stuff, tho you could judge eas-of-learning for new user. Tho you used shareware UME way back when, and the "real" version too? As for the DelMar machine, if it had grafix, I mean real grafix and windows, it would be dangerous. In fact, Ida bought one last October. But the MM/1 does what I need, unlike the PT or TC-9. #: 12470 S15/Hot Topics 02-Oct-91 00:51:42 Sb: #11977-MM/1 delivery Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 Well you don't have to finsih every project -- if you just keep on mousing in the first couple pages of every Keyboard Mag rock transcription, you'd be doing a valuable service. Say, I just put a radical fix into the UME timing so the Play routine should not lose time or mess up the rhythm, even in House music. This is on Coco3 version. --mike k #: 12472 S15/Hot Topics 02-Oct-91 00:56:57 Sb: #11981-Serial ports? Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 Don't recall if you're describing a TC-70 or MM/1, but most modern UARTs go to External clock if software selectsw the 16th baud rate, so you *should* be able to wire in a MIDI crystal and have the UART run either normal RS232 rates or MIDI rate from software. No need for a jumper at all, unless I'm missing something, like half my brain which this time of nite is normal....mike k #: 12492 S15/Hot Topics 03-Oct-91 00:05:12 Sb: More woe Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Mark Griffith 76040,41 Mark; Got the MM/1 back yesterday, and installed it tonight. I noticed that you had added a jumper between R42 and the 2 end video output pins... What is that for?? Actually, it's quite an academic question, as the 48 pin VLSI chip nearest the video port - BT478KPJ?? - blew itself into bits as soon as I powered it up. What now? I'll try calling Paul in the AM, but don't hold much hope of getting through, being so near the Fest. ..Jim #: 12522 S15/Hot Topics 06-Oct-91 18:34:06 Sb: Atlanta Fest Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: All So... How's it going in Atlanta? Anyone? I know, you're all to busy at the CoCo Fest to get on CIS, right? Mike #: 12624 S15/Hot Topics 15-Oct-91 22:27:19 Sb: #12319-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 Hi Paul... Just curious about how delivery of my new toy is coming along? It's been about a month since you told me it would be hopefully in the next couple weeks. I'm toying with the idea of writing a decent sequencer for one of these machines, but I think it would be a bunch easier on the MM/1 since it has a real MIDI port and enough speed to record. Hope it'll be soon! Glen Hathaway 71446,166 COMPER #: 12702 S15/Hot Topics 26-Oct-91 12:19:26 Sb: I/O Boards - MM/1 Fm: Keith H. March 70541,1413 To: 73477,2004 Paul: I would like to order the i/o board, but I need some more infomation on it. Is it avaibable? Keith #: 12716 S15/Hot Topics 27-Oct-91 10:27:03 Sb: #updates? Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Ed 76576,3312 (X) Ed, Long time no talk! I was just observing to Kev that we haven't seen any updates from Delmar in some time. How about posting something on your windowing alternatives .... or perhaps just a update? Anything we can do to help? Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 12733 S15/Hot Topics 28-Oct-91 03:45:43 Sb: #12716-#updates? Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Hi Steve, Yes, it has been a while. We've just been quietly selling and shipping machines. There are some new things in the works and we'll announce them when we're ready. But, we are getting ready to announce G-Windows. I see Frank (FHL) has already posted the 'sales pitch' for G-Windows. And he's done a good job of describing it. We do have one advantage with the SYSTEM IV over the TC-70, better resolution - up to 1024 x 768 x 256 if you want it. I'll post details soon. We are also looking at another GUI/Windowing system. Quite a bit different. Can't say whether it's better or not - this is a very subjective thing. Also, we have an in-house project for a TUI/Windowing system for text only systems in the works. Be very similiar to a GUI except it's designed for all but the dumbest text terminals. Re K-Windows for the SYSTEM IV, you might want to 'observe' to Kev to 'get on the ball' . Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO There is 1 Reply. #: 12740 S15/Hot Topics 28-Oct-91 07:46:18 Sb: #12733-#updates? Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X) Ed, Just trying for some balanced coverage here in the forum. Keep us posted on the developments as you're ready. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 12746 S15/Hot Topics 28-Oct-91 15:38:19 Sb: #12740-#updates? Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Hi Steve, Yes, it's me again - twice in one day. Perhaps your request for updates was transmitted to the 'powers to be' re G-Windows via mental telepathy. At any rate, some good news. We reached an agreement this afternoon. All that needs to be done is sign the paper work. In the meantime, a Port-Pak should be in my hands in about two weeks and we can do the formal port. Shouldn't take too long. A demo package will be available shortly. Additionally, we will be offering a separate package for programmers who wish to write software to run under G-Windows. This will provide hardware independence! I'll have a formal announcement up in a couple of days. Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO 302-378-2555 There is 1 Reply. #: 12750 S15/Hot Topics 28-Oct-91 20:44:41 Sb: #12746-updates? Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 Well Ed .... glad we could be of help! :-) Looking forward to the offical announcement! Steve #: 12717 S15/Hot Topics 27-Oct-91 10:29:06 Sb: #updates Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Frank 70310,317 (X) Frank, As you can tell from a couple other messages, updates from FHL have been missed. Any chance of you bringing us up to date on the state of things with your offerings? Anything we can do to help .... Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 12725 S15/Hot Topics 27-Oct-91 21:00:24 Sb: #12717-#updates Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) OK will do. As a matter of fact I just uploaded 3 messages to DELPHI forum. Number 48827, 48828, and 48829. If your in a hurry. I'll upload those same messages here right now! Thanks for asking! Frank There is 1 Reply. #: 12736 S15/Hot Topics 28-Oct-91 07:39:24 Sb: #12725-updates Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 (X) Thanks Frank. Any new information on your systems is welcome ... as always. Steve #: 12726 S15/Hot Topics 27-Oct-91 21:39:07 Sb: uploads Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: sysop (X) I have uploaded the following files to dl15. FST_TC.70, TC70.INF and G_WIN.INF I also erred and uploaded to other files that I ask you to delete. That, BTW is what the files say. Thanks Frank Hogg #: 12818 S15/Hot Topics 02-Nov-91 18:49:35 Sb: #MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul K. Ward - IMS Hi all... Anybody know how to contact Paul Ward? My Visa was billed for my MM/1 on October 4, but still no computer (as of November 2). I've called IMS many times and left 2 messages. I'd like to know if it's been shipped, and if so, how and when! If it hasn't been shipped, why have I been billed? Hey Paul! Answer your phone!!! There is 1 Reply. #: 12837 S15/Hot Topics 03-Nov-91 10:42:24 Sb: #12818-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) There was a message similar to yours on Delphi a couple of weeks ago (only his was a tad more 'threatening'....grin) The guy did leave back a message later that he had indeed received his MM/1 about 6 weeks after his credit card was charged for the computer (sans I/O board) PKW apparently did call this guy up (after numerous phone calls) and said he was sorry for the delay. Hope this helps squelch your fears... jim Sutemeier There is 1 Reply. #: 12842 S15/Hot Topics 03-Nov-91 12:54:48 Sb: #12837-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 Hi Jim... I just thought that if the machine was shipped on the 4th via UPS, it would be here by now - I was worried that UPS might have the wrong number or whatever and couldn't find me to deliver. If it takes 6 weeks... I guess I have to wait a couple more weeks, huh? Damn! #: 12834 S15/Hot Topics 03-Nov-91 10:22:09 Sb: #12746-updates? Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 Ed; Can you tell me a bit more about the programmer's package for G-windows? Sounds like just the ticket! Thanks, ...Jim #: 12835 S15/Hot Topics 03-Nov-91 10:22:29 Sb: #12726-#uploads Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 Frank; G-Windows sounds interesting - do you know if it'll run on an MM/1? Also, what about price and availability? Thanks, ...Jim There is 1 Reply. #: 12838 S15/Hot Topics 03-Nov-91 10:45:57 Sb: #12835-uploads Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 Frank just posted a message on Delphi, prob'ly will do same here. In his agreement with Gespac, Frank has bought the rights to port GWindows over to not only the TC70, but also to the MM/1. I know for a fact that this port has not yet been done, so price and availability is not exista existent at this time. (You cannot buy GWindows for the TC70 and it will run on the MM/1 - a port defintely has to be made due to mouse configs, addresses, etc.) jim Sutemeier #: 12851 S15/Hot Topics 03-Nov-91 19:50:03 Sb: #12569-#MW and CD-I News Fm: David L. Kaleita 72657,2775 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Hi Kev. There is 1 Reply. #: 12863 S15/Hot Topics 03-Nov-91 22:48:07 Sb: #12851-MW and CD-I News Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: David L. Kaleita 72657,2775 Hey Mr CD-I! We sure need you now :-) Long wait, eh? Saw a couple of your messages about it on comp.sys.atari.st a few months back. kev #: 12866 S15/Hot Topics 04-Nov-91 04:43:40 Sb: #12834-#updates? Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, I will be uploading full information re G-Windows very shortly. Probably in conjunction with Frank (why duplicate effort). Please be patient with us. It's taking a lot of time to fully assimilate what we have. Turning out to be more powerful than I thought. Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO There is 1 Reply. #: 12873 S15/Hot Topics 04-Nov-91 10:22:13 Sb: #12866-#updates? Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X) GWindows --> turning out to be more powerful than I thought. Are you ever correct there, Ed....I received the GWindow demo package this past week, and have been working on, and playing (grin) with them all weekend. The Desktop is EXCELLENT...the more I use it, the more powerful I realize that it is. This package should really turn some heads..... jim Sutemeier There is 1 Reply. #: 12886 S15/Hot Topics 04-Nov-91 21:25:10 Sb: #12873-updates? Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 I have recently ordered my tc70 for use in my business in northern VA You dont happen to live in this area do you? Know any tc70 people that do? We may be able to help each other. #: 12897 S15/Hot Topics 05-Nov-91 09:11:46 Sb: #12886-updates? Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 Be happy to help you out, Bruce, in any way I can...but I'm on the 'other' coast.....Los Angeles, to be specific jim Sutemeier #: 12921 S15/Hot Topics 06-Nov-91 21:07:17 Sb: #12842-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) I was billed Dec. 31, 1990 and got my machine in Sept 91! Be patient, you will get it. I talked to Paul (left him a message and he called me) and he said that they are almost caught up in shipping the main boards. --Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 12924 S15/Hot Topics 06-Nov-91 22:08:32 Sb: #12921-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 Hi Colin... I've talked to Paul twice since that message. It has been shipped and a trace is being done to locate it's whereabouts. I expect to hear from UPS any day now... Anyway, how do you like your's? Do you have an IO board? How are graphics with the CM-8 (assuming you are using one)? #: 12945 S15/Hot Topics 08-Nov-91 23:12:53 Sb: #12924-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Butting in - Glen - when you get you machine get back on KZIN and we can have some more 680x0 users. Right now my TC70 is kind of lonley and all the 68k files are going to waste. Bpb P. There is 1 Reply. #: 12955 S15/Hot Topics 09-Nov-91 14:30:38 Sb: #12945-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 (X) Hi Bob... You mean you and I are the only OSK users in 'couver? Something should be done about that! There is 1 Reply. #: 12956 S15/Hot Topics 09-Nov-91 19:14:23 Sb: #12955-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Well as soon as I have some graphics working on the TC70 I will be dragging it round to the VCCC (coco club) meeting and that should generate a couple of sales. Will probably buy Gwindows but am waiting for my demo disk before making a hard decision. Until then I have managed to get 25 meg of the drive loaded and that is before I get the full GNUC++ up and running. Big files those. There is 1 Reply. #: 12981 S15/Hot Topics 11-Nov-91 02:21:34 Sb: #12956-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 Hi Bob... Sounds like fun. Do you have a Delphi account? Talking to you here is real expensive... #: 12967 S15/Hot Topics 10-Nov-91 09:36:49 Sb: #12924-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) I really like my MM/1! I don't have an IO board yet, but should have it within a couple of weeks. I do use a CM-8, and the graphics are very good (don't let anybody lie to you; the CM-8 is a good monitor). I wish I had a better GIF viewer. The one bundled will only handle picture resolutions up to the MM/1's max resolution (and you have to manually set up a window to show it in!) Anyways, good luck getting yours! --Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 12982 S15/Hot Topics 11-Nov-91 02:28:26 Sb: #12967-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 Hi Colin... I expect someone will write a better GIF file viewer real soon. Or someone might port ViewGif over - with a couple small additions and some more speed, ViewGif is the best I've seen on the CoCo3. Anyway, I expect I'll be bugging ya some more once my MM/1 gets here. I wrote a zap program about 3 years ago called Snap (for RSDOS). In 88/89 I ported it to OS/9, still 100% assembler. During the last week or so, I've been improving it. One more command to add and it's a DEd killer for sure. I'm going to have to learn 68000 assembler quick and port it to the MM/1. Maybe I could make a few bucks ya know... Talk to ya later. There is 1 Reply. #: 12987 S15/Hot Topics 11-Nov-91 06:54:44 Sb: #12982-#MM/1 delivery Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Gifshow has made advances since the version that came on the floppies with my MM/1. Mike Haaland has been busy. The interlace and overscan modes come into their own when displaying GIF files, that's for sure. Since viewgif spends a considerable part of its time figuring out what palette combinations to use to make up for not being able to display 256 colors on a CoCo 3, just porting to the MM/1, which *can* display 256 colors at a time, will automatically speed it up (since one can cut out the code that does that)! There is 1 Reply. #: 12999 S15/Hot Topics 11-Nov-91 23:16:54 Sb: #12987-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Hi James... Sounds good! Do you have a MM/1? I'm trying to compile a list of all MM/1 owners who frequent Delphi and CIS. That way, if I have a question, I'll have lots of people to ask! There is 1 Reply. #: 13001 S15/Hot Topics 12-Nov-91 00:06:03 Sb: #12999-MM/1 delivery Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 Yes, I do indeed have an MM/1. (I'm typing on it right now.) I have the I/O board, and have a Quantum low-profile 105 Mbyte hard drive hooked up to it. Works very well. #: 12975 S15/Hot Topics 10-Nov-91 18:27:27 Sb: #12897-#updates? Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X) Thanks for the offer! I will be using the tc70 to replace my coco in my printshop. We do estimating invoicing, collect production data, we even use deskmate wordprocessing to type up quotes for customers. I will be able to extend the system to control more terminals and printers and do accounts recevable and payroll with the speed and memory. How do you use your tc70? There is 1 Reply. #: 12989 S15/Hot Topics 11-Nov-91 09:20:28 Sb: #12975-updates? Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 I am using my TC70 for R&D of OSK software, Bruce...seems like it'll be a good marketplace for some new ideas I have. When I get the GWindow delveopment package, I'll be all set, and ready to really get into it.... jim Sutemeier #: 13009 S15/Hot Topics 12-Nov-91 23:47:50 Sb: #13001-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Hi James... Oooooooh! Sounds nice! I ordered an 80 Meg HD with mine - had enough of always being out of room on my 30 Meg. 105 must be lovely! Oh well, you know that data always expands to fill all available space, though... How's all the sound I/O stuff work? Do you have any MIDI stuff? There is 1 Reply. #: 13024 S15/Hot Topics 13-Nov-91 07:33:05 Sb: #13009-MM/1 delivery Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Sound I/O works fine. No MIDI yet; I'm on the list to be notified when Mike Knudsen and Kala Software have the OS-9/68000 Ultimuse ready to go. #: 13016 S15/Hot Topics 13-Nov-91 00:39:20 Sb: #12967-MM/1 delivery Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 Huh? What do you mean you had to crank up a window to view 'em? Who did the GIFShow your using? I never released any version that only handled 320 x 200. But they will "squish" the image onto a 320 x 200 or 320 x 400 screen in the original GIFShow. Also the one you probably have did NOT support the palette chip, cause I wrote it on a prototype that didn't have a palette. (Boy am I glad they everyone nudged IMS into having Kev Pease put on eon the board) . Most 256 color GIF's really suck with only the stock boot up colors. Now with 8 bits of R-G-B each, instead of 3 bits red, 3 bits green and 2 bits blue, you can get some very realistic colors. I guess I should release the latest version that handles GIF89a files. It'll display ANY GIF and use the correct colors, plus do plain text rendering, multi-image files. Best bonus is the speed optimizing done by James Jones. (Thanks again JJ!) Coming to a Lib 12 near you..... Mike BTW - I saw Glen mention ViewGIF. He started with the same basic code I started with too. A GIF(TM) to Postscript(R) convertor by Scott Hempill. I think it's in the Libs here as GIF2PS.C or something like that. #: 13068 S15/Hot Topics 16-Nov-91 08:39:03 Sb: #12982-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Yeah, I remember Snap. It was a neat little program! I've been trying to port the pt68k vgif viewer to MM/1, but my limited knowledge of VGA and lack of printer (IO board, actually) have frustrated my efforts! I'm glad to see more stuff coming out, though. --Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 13082 S15/Hot Topics 17-Nov-91 01:55:38 Sb: #13068-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Hi Colin... It's real tough to work without a printer - I know what it's like cause I did it for a long time. You learn to print by hand - fast! What a pain! Anyway, I'm trying to get Snap in shape, both by finishing it, and by cleaning up the code - modularizing and generalizing subroutines, etc. That way, when it comes time to port it to OSK, it should be (pardon the pun) a Snap. Actually, I was quite amazed at how easy it was to port it from quick and dirty RSDOS code to legal OS-9 code. Went pretty quick - hope the OSK port goes as smoothly... BTW, Snap now has both a working Diddle and a Verify command. If I add a few more things, it'll be a definite Ded beater! #: 13069 S15/Hot Topics 16-Nov-91 08:44:41 Sb: #13016-MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) I'm using GIFShow 1.0 that came with my MM/1. It seems to crash if I display a picture larger than the screen I'm trying to display it on. Anyways, I'm Sounds like a winner! #: 13119 S15/Hot Topics 19-Nov-91 22:05:47 Sb: #12981-MM/1 delivery Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Yes - you can find me over there more often than here of late. A function of their bulk time pricing. look for BUDDCAR. Bob. #: 13117 S15/Hot Topics 19-Nov-91 21:43:47 Sb: #12989-#updates? Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X) is a gwindow development package different than just gat is the development package different? what can it do , how much does it cost? Cant I write basic programs with windows with regular gwindows package? games, utilitysystem stuff? There is 1 Reply. #: 13127 S15/Hot Topics 20-Nov-91 10:12:16 Sb: #13117-updates? Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 Most of your message to me apparently was a blank....I will have the GWindows Development Package later this week (Frank didn't say anything about the actual GWindows package to me), so I'll have to let you know later this week more about the Dev. Package, what it can/can't do. jim Sutemeier #: 13120 S15/Hot Topics 19-Nov-91 23:11:37 Sb: #What's happening? Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: All MM/1 owners Anybody know the latest status of the MM/1 I/O boards?? How about the 2nd serial port 'paddle boards'? Or the latest drivers so that we can begin using PCF? Anybody heard from Mr. Ward lately? I'm reaching the limits of my patience... 11.5 months AFTER paying for a complete system, it's still not usable in the way that I was led to believe it would be. There is 1 Reply. #: 13124 S15/Hot Topics 20-Nov-91 08:20:37 Sb: #13120-What's happening? Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 Hmmm .... Jim, I ordered my system on 10/19. It will require both the I/O board and two serial paddle boards. Paul indicated to me that they had just resolved the production problems with the first batch of I/O boards and would be shipping those out immediately. It was not clear if my order would be covered by that particular batch. In any event, he quoted 4-6 weeks .... and he called me for the order. I'll keep you posted .... you do the same, eh? #: 13143 S15/Hot Topics 21-Nov-91 17:13:03 Sb: #13120-#What's happening? Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, >Anybody know the latest status of the MM/1 I/O boards?? >How about the 2nd serial port 'paddle boards'? >Or the latest drivers so that we can begin using PCF? All these things are in the works now. I/O boards are being made and shipped. No, I don't know in what order, I presume it is in the same order as the mother boards were shipped. Paddle boards are being made now and will be shipping next month to everyone along with updates to drivers etc. >I'm reaching the limits of my patience... 11.5 months AFTER paying for a >complete system, it's still not usable in the way that I was led to believe >it would be. Your system will be as usable as what you were TOLD it would be. Your phrase "led to believe" implies that you believe you were lied too? Is this what you are saying? Jim, you and everyone else will get your complete system as it was promised. You have my personal promise on that. The fact is, there are only three, yes three, people doing 99% of the work, and only 24 hours in the day. When was the last time you offered to help? I won't comment any further even though I have a burning desire to put you in your place. Mark Griffith....speaking for himself and not IMS There is 1 Reply. #: 13160 S15/Hot Topics 23-Nov-91 08:57:08 Sb: #13143-What's happening? Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 Mark; After reading EVERY message about the MM/1 both here on CIS and from the COCO LIST and OS9 LIST over the past year or more, I've seen only one or two messages that contained 'hard' facts about the status of the MM/1. In the past 2 months, NADA! It's easy for you to rail at others who are in the same boat as I am, so as an experiment to see what we're going through, I'd recommend that you take out your I/O board and see how usable your MM/1 is! Other than using the editor and compiler or running the flicker or lines demo, it's a useless machine without the I/O board and mouse port - no sound capabilities; memory constrained; slow; awkward; etc. I'll be sending you an early Christmas present on Monday... A brand new copy of "In Search of Excellence" by Tom Peters. Recommend you read it and pass it on to Paul when you're done. Excellent book! Points out over and over that it's the customer's PERCEPTIONS that make a difference, NOT reality, and MY perception is that I've been led on and promised more than what was delivered. >>When was the last time you offered to help? Well, lemme see. Looking back over the past few years, I don't remember EVER being asked by a manufacturer to help get product out the door. I guess that I just didn't realize that I was buying a 'share-the-effort' computer. Mea culpa! I also didn't realize that I would be providing a 0% interest short-term loan! Seriously, if I can do something to speed up the process without creating a conflict of interest, let me know. As a suggestion, there's numerous small board manufacturers in this area that do excellent short-run work and I've mentioned this to Paul several times in the past. Thank you for the status update. It's too bad that tempers need to rise to the red line before info can be pried loose from those in the know. ...Jim p.s. Mark, take up smoking again - please? #: 13144 S15/Hot Topics 21-Nov-91 17:16:43 Sb: #13120-#What's happening? Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, I talked to Paul last night (he's been having to work double shifts at his regular job). The I/O boards should be delivered before Christmas... about a dozen a week have been going out. The paddle board parts are in their hands now; they got delayed twice. First, from a company which turned out not to be able to deliver the order; then from another company which raised prices on their parts unexpectedly. One other "gotcha" they had... as we all know, the casemaker changed styles on them a few months back. They added a PC backplate which had to first be *removed*. Get this: at a cost of $40 per case! Personally, I would've just told everyone to get their own case instead of eating the cost as he did. Latest drivers/etc will be going out as a Christmas present, btw. kev There is 1 Reply. #: 13159 S15/Hot Topics 23-Nov-91 08:56:33 Sb: #13144-What's happening? Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 Kev; Thanks for the update. Yeah, I know about those double shifts... not too much fun... I'm usually too tired afterwards to even go out and spend the extra $$$. I don't envy Paul. re: IMS' supplier trouble If it weren't for bad luck, they wouldn't have any luck at all!! Hadn't heard about the latest with the paddle board supplier... what's this make it now - 4/4? Thx, ...Jim #: 13508 S15/Hot Topics 16-Dec-91 21:51:36 Sb: #13493-MM/1 delivery Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Yup. Now, there was a recent message on the BITNET mailing list that forwarded some stuff about the new Insite floptical drive. Evidently it's $385, and the 20 Mbyte floppies for it are $10 a shot. / Pretty tempting for transport medium (so that Kevin could stop ragging me about not sending him my hard drive :-), and beats plain old floppies for backup. Will have to research further, and of course, there'd be a driver to write, but it's kind of appealing. #: 13521 S15/Hot Topics 17-Dec-91 19:57:05 Sb: #13477-MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) That's not as much as I expected. Maybe by the time I can afford one they'll be real cheap! :) --Colin #: 13529 S15/Hot Topics 17-Dec-91 23:59:00 Sb: #13473-MM/1 delivery Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Well Glen, what may be a waste of time for me won't necessarily be a waste of time for you, so I'll let you poke around on your own ;-) . In general, you're out of luck with any of the sound capabilities for now, as well as anything requiring a mouse - i.e. Mark's SKEL program, the paint program, newdir, etc. Although, now that I think of it, Kevin may have posted a patch to the COCO list on using the mouse with /t0... Kev, what's the scoop??? I'm really anxious to try out the sound capabilities of the machine - I'd like to try patching the error handler to say "I'm sorry, Dave, but I can't do that" (from 2001) on a 215 or 216 error. I've run a null modem cable between this '386 and the MM/1 for now so that I can transfer programs between the CoCo and what I d/l from CIS to the MM/1 and it's proving to be a very satisfactory solution... got all my GIF files on MM/1 floppies, and although they load painfully slowly from floppy, they look as good, if not better on the MM/1. Get Mike H's GIFSHOW4 from the lib - it has lots of features not on the one that comes with the MM/1. ...Jim #: 13539 S15/Hot Topics 18-Dec-91 21:59:24 Sb: #13457-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Remember working with cassette tape? There is 1 Reply. #: 13553 S15/Hot Topics 19-Dec-91 19:37:09 Sb: #13539-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X) Hi Paul... Yeah! Hated every hour of it!!! #: 13520 S15/Hot Topics 17-Dec-91 19:56:02 Sb: #13472-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) If you are using a single board MM1, then you need to SAVE out the windio module from the 1 meg boot disk and use that instead of the one on the modules disk. Maybe that helps? --Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 13527 S15/Hot Topics 17-Dec-91 23:02:51 Sb: #13520-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Hi Colin... Ya know, I bet you're right! I'll definitely try that. Do you know if there's any limit on bootfile size with OSK? With flat memory, I should be able to make it quite large, right? Since it looks like I'm stuck with floppies for a while, I'd like to make a bootfile with a lot of commands in it to make things speedier. There are 2 Replies. #: 13531 S15/Hot Topics 18-Dec-91 07:16:22 Sb: #13527-#MM/1 delivery Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) There used to be a limit; there isn't any more. The current bootfile I'm using on my MM/1 is 91330 bytes long. There is 1 Reply. #: 13537 S15/Hot Topics 18-Dec-91 20:50:48 Sb: #13531-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Hi James... No limit!?! I'll have to play around with that one... #: 13556 S15/Hot Topics 19-Dec-91 19:49:26 Sb: #13527-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) No limit that I know of (on bootfile size), but if it is going to be bigger than 64K you will have to use the -e (extended boot) option of OS9Gen. (My OS9Boot file is 86k) --Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 13560 S15/Hot Topics 19-Dec-91 22:30:39 Sb: #13556-#MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Hi Colin... I've about got it figured out. I now have a bootdisk that suits me with most of my most used commands on it. Works fine. Anybody know why the boot trashes the bottom of the screen? Doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it looks like the bootup code or maybe the stack is chewing into screen mem? Weird! Thanks for the reply... There are 2 Replies. #: 13566 S15/Hot Topics 20-Dec-91 05:43:16 Sb: #13560-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Glen - you guessed right: on a 1-meg system there really should be no video until boot (altho there _is_ video shown, I believe in case a hacker needs to use the ROM debugger)... so you see the boot code stack at first. Until the window system gets init'd, that is. There is 1 Reply. #: 13568 S15/Hot Topics 20-Dec-91 07:57:07 Sb: #13566-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Hi Kev... Ha!!! I thought that's what it was! #: 13576 S15/Hot Topics 20-Dec-91 19:56:15 Sb: #13560-MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) I think I heard that is caused by the computer looking for a sound port??? I'm trying now to get a !!! mouse to work (note a little frustration?) ;) --Colin #: 13538 S15/Hot Topics 18-Dec-91 20:58:30 Sb: #GIFs on MM/1 Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Hi Jim... I have also run a null modem cable to my CoCo to transfer stuff. Sterm receives from Osterm fine, but won't Xmodem sent to the Coco. It will send text files to osterm by ascii send, but I have to drop to 2400 baud, or the Coco loses too many chars. I tried some of my biggest GIFs, and found I have to use the -l (low-res) option to display them with only 1 Meg. The display is a little better than the CoCo's, without the annoying flicker that ViewGif did to get more colors. Wonder what they'll look like when I've get 3 Megs?... I hear that the machine will speed up when I get the I/O board and more mem. Sure hope so - not that it's slow, but every bit of extra speed helps. I think the main reason it seems slow to me now is that I'm not used to waiting for floppies... There are 3 Replies. #: 13544 S15/Hot Topics 18-Dec-91 23:30:26 Sb: #13538-GIFs on MM/1 Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) It will speed up considerably when you get more memory, believe me. I've seen it happen on my MM/1. (For that matter, I wouldn't be surprised if the new batch of MM/1 device drivers and the like included improved floppy drivers.) The overscan modes (which are the ones gifshow will be able to use when you have the added RAM) make more of a difference than one might expect, because if it increases each linear dimension by 10% (that's just a guess on my part), that's a 21% increase in *area*, which is what you'll perceive as the change. #: 13557 S15/Hot Topics 19-Dec-91 20:17:46 Sb: #13538-#GIFs on MM/1 Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Glen, Excuse me for butting in here, but I have a 1 meg MM/1 (waiting for the I/O board) and I don't have any trouble viewing 640 X 480 by 256 color GIF's. I am using Windio edition #22 from disk #6 and GIFshow edition #5. On the Magnavox 8CM515 I have connected to the MM/1 there is a little flicker at the top of the screen but the colors look great and the picture (over 209K file) looks about as good as it does on the multi-sync monitor I have on my 386 machine. It's really slow loading in from floppy though. Can't wait for the I/O board and hard drive. P.S. Just tried the -l option with gifshow on the MM/1. Without using the -l option I have 230.5K of memory free and the picture fills the entire screen. Using -l, I have 270.5K of memory free and the picture is reduced in size (as you would expect). Ernie. There is 1 Reply. #: 13562 S15/Hot Topics 19-Dec-91 22:36:35 Sb: #13557-GIFs on MM/1 Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 (X) Hi Ernie... Hmmm... Wouldn't work on mine. My GIF file is about 250k long and GifSh4 refused to do it. Could be a difference in bootfile size? or my Gifshow is out of date? Wonder which? #: 13564 S15/Hot Topics 20-Dec-91 02:09:02 Sb: #13538-#GIFs on MM/1 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Yup! Just don't use the -m (in memory decode) with large GIF's on a 1 meg system. Also don't have too many other windows open or too large a ramdisk. Usually not a problem, but If you already have 3 or 4 windows open and a 256K ramdisk, you don't have the memory to load the whole image into memory before it's decoded *and* create a Overscan 384 x 480 x 256 color screen. Should be a faster version of GIFShow available RSN. Keep checking the Libs! Hope y'all are enjoying the utility. There is 1 Reply. #: 13569 S15/Hot Topics 20-Dec-91 08:00:34 Sb: #13564-GIFs on MM/1 Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Hi Mike... I always like faster! Hey, on something like a 640x480 GIF, is there a way to display every line and just dump the top or bottom of a pix, instead of skipping lines every now and then to make it fit? Waiting eagerly for your next version!!! #: 13554 S15/Hot Topics 19-Dec-91 19:41:24 Sb: #Monitors for VSC Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Hi James... Improved floppy drivers are definitely on their way to us soon. I spoke with Paul today about that and the IMS BBS has a bulletin on it too. There is a new format called Turbo that (for large files) gives transfer times approaching that of a slow hard drive. Hey, you know anything about what kind of monitors we can use for the MM/1? Can I use a SVGA type (I don't mind building an adapter for the cable)? There is 1 Reply. #: 13558 S15/Hot Topics 19-Dec-91 21:58:09 Sb: #13554-#Monitors for VSC Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) All I know is that the Magnavox 1CM135 that I bought works very well with it. I think the VSC chip wants the TV style 15.75 KHz scan rate, or whatever it is (the frequency that all those obnoxious TV flyback transformers whine at :-). Further deponent sayeth not. There is 1 Reply. #: 13561 S15/Hot Topics 19-Dec-91 22:33:37 Sb: #13558-#Monitors for VSC Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Hi James... Hope the VSC can work with this monitor. It is multi-sync - Horizontal: 30 - 38 KHz. If it won't work I'll have to return it and get my money back... Damn! There is 1 Reply. #: 13571 S15/Hot Topics 20-Dec-91 08:43:52 Sb: #13561-#Monitors for VSC Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) The VSC chip clocks at 15.75 KHz. My CM8 has been going out for some time, so I talked to Frank Hogg about which type of monitor to purchase for my TC70. He said most multi-sync monitors scan at about 30.00 Khz, and are therefore unusable for the VSC chip, and suggested either I buy another CM8, or get the Magnovox 1CM135. They both scan at 15.75, the dot pitch for the CM8 is, I think, about .52mm, the Magnovox pitch is .42mm. (Thus making the Magnovox monitor a better monitor.) Radio Shack will sell me a CM8 for $150, but I've found Magnovox's for about $250-$300. The Magnovox is getting very hard to find, though....took me 4 calls to find someone who could ship one to me within the next 10 days. Hope this helps. jim Sutemeier There is 1 Reply. #: 13577 S15/Hot Topics 20-Dec-91 21:24:22 Sb: #13571-#Monitors for VSC Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X) Hi Jim... I oops... I'm getting a bit annoyed with IMS for building a computer I can't buy a monitor for (so far). I spent the day trying to find any RGBA monitor that will sync to 15.7 KHz. Had pretty much no luck at all. They're fast becoming extinct. Two I found that MAY work are : 1. NEC MultiSync 3D $800+ Canadian and 2. TVM SuperSync 3+ $550+ Canadian. Looks pretty grim unless IMS has something up their sleeve. Maybe I'm looking for the wrong thing? I'd like to move my CM-8 back to the CoCo3 - the TV sucks! Composite monitors are pretty much unavailable - you can find the odd used one, but new ones are non-existent! Any ideas...? There are 2 Replies. #: 13578 S15/Hot Topics 21-Dec-91 00:42:45 Sb: #13577-#Monitors for VSC Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Glen - if I had the $$, I'd get the NEC MultiSync (which is much cheaper down heah in the states)... it has a very sharp, bright picture. But the best deal might be to simply find a CM-8... they're pretty cheap these days. There is 1 Reply. #: 13581 S15/Hot Topics 21-Dec-91 02:54:28 Sb: #13578-#Monitors for VSC Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Hi Kevin... I spent the day trying to find RGBA monitors that will sync at any rate lower than 30 KHz - had almost no luck. Seems almost no one builds em anymore, except at real high prices. The two possibles I found are the NEC MultiSync 3D (about $800+ Canadian) and the TVM SuperSync 3+ (about $550 C and has identical specs to the NEC). Paul says the Mitsubishi DiamondScan will work and also the Magnavox 1cm135. I'll have to phone around re: availability/price of those two. The salesman I talked to wasn't sure if and still stay in analog mode - he seemed to think that at the lower frequencies, they reverted to TTL, but wasn't sure. There is 1 Reply. #: 13584 S15/Hot Topics 21-Dec-91 04:29:14 Sb: #13581-#Monitors for VSC Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) I think most of the people I know, use DiamondScans or CM-8s. I use a CM-8, and like it because it has the best black, but at demos I wish I had one of the fancier multisync monitors because they display better in bright rooms and also usually have lots of size/centering controls. I think CM-8s are selling as low as $150 new, so if you're like me and don't want to put a lot into a monitor yet (and still want a good picture anyway), it seems like a fair choice. PS* no, the multisyncs should stay in whatever analog/digital input mode you set its switch for. Hmm, I suppose there could be weird ones which try to guess at what kind of PC card you're using tho. There is 1 Reply. #: 13593 S15/Hot Topics 21-Dec-91 19:32:40 Sb: #13584-#Monitors for VSC Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Hi Kevin... I think I'll take a day (after Christmas rush) to call all the Radio Shacks in the city and see if anyone has a CM-8 anymore. Remember that Intertan up here in Canada dropped the CoCo long before Radio Shack in the States did. I called a couple before and they had none. Might even keep the CM-8 on the MM/1 and buy a cheap composite monitor for the CoCo. I can get a used monochrome for $25. What's a DiamondScan go for in the USA? There are 2 Replies. #: 13598 S15/Hot Topics 21-Dec-91 23:08:24 Sb: #13593-Monitors for VSC Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Glen - ach, I forgot that Intertan dropped the coco a year earlier. I haven't gotten Computer Shopper in a while, so I'm not sure what the various multiscan monitors go for now. Perhaps someone else does? #: 13599 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-91 00:13:36 Sb: #13593-#Monitors for VSC Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) PS: did you see the "COUPLE" file in Lib 15? It's about a product to switch between the MM/1 and CoCo on one CM-8. Might be useful. There is 1 Reply. #: 13600 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-91 00:45:27 Sb: #13599-#Monitors for VSC Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Hi Kevin... A switcher doesn't help me much. I have the MM/1 on one desk, the MIDI equipment in the middle and the CoCo on the right on another desk. My room is too small to set it up any other way and still be usable. I need another monitor. The MM/1 manual claims "The MM/1 provided(s) jumpers to allow you to work with most popular RGBA monitors". Is there really a way to use a "popular" RGBA monitor? Popular by whose standards? Strange... I'll keep looking I guess. Seems popular these days means SVGA - sync rates of 30 KHz and up. There is 1 Reply. #: 13602 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-91 04:50:43 Sb: #13600-Monitors for VSC Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Yah, "popular" changes from day to day :-) Your room sounds like mine, btw. Actually, I've gotten to like a smaller room (except for storage of magazines!) because it means everything is within arm's reach while sitting down . #: 13605 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-91 10:32:46 Sb: #13577-#Monitors for VSC Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) I just ordered, from CoCoPro (Dave Meyers), a 1CM135 Magnovox monitor. Frank Hogg suggested this monitor instead of another CM8 for my system (my CM8 is dying...slowly but surely). The problem is getting a monitor that will horizontally scan at 15.75 KHz....most Multi-Sync monitors scan at about 30.00. So, Frank suggested the 1CM135 as the best replacement, that will work correctly with the VSC chip. Finding a Magnovox monitor was another story - I ca,lled a bunch of places, finding none available anywhere for immediate shipment. The best I could find was coCoPro, where he promised me the monitor would arrive around 1/1; so I ordered it from him. The cost of the Mag. is between $250-$300, depending on who you order from. I understand that this new monitor has a dot pitch of .42mm, as compared to the CM8 at .52mm, so the screen should look a lot better with the new monitor. jim There is 1 Reply. #: 13610 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-91 17:39:53 Sb: #13605-#Monitors for VSC Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X) Hi Jim... The Magnavox is a definite possible for me. Exactly how much difference does dot pitch size make? I know the CM-8 isn't the clearest thing I've seen. Is something like .31 or .28 a lot better, or is it that big a thing? There is 1 Reply. #: 13612 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-91 19:44:54 Sb: #13610-Monitors for VSC Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) The smaller the dot pitch, the better pix you get. The 1CM135, with a dot pitch .10mm smaller than the CM8, should provide crystal clear images, even on images that caused 'flicker' on the CM8. Once I get the Magnovox, I'll let you know if this is true. q{ With the CM8 monitor, with GWindows, the Gespac Logo flickers quite badly on my CM8....will let you know how the logo does on the Magnovox. jim #: 13559 S15/Hot Topics 19-Dec-91 22:13:58 Sb: #13343-I've got it Fm: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) I think that login runs a shell to process the .login file? I use login with no username or password just to process my .login file. -J #: 13614 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-91 22:40:30 Sb: #13470-#What's happening? Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) my MM/1 is the same. dropping to floppies wasn't as painful since you can cram 1.44 meg on the disk. unfortantly the machine i have doesn't have a working serial port so I can't use it until i get it replaced. Mike There is 1 Reply. #: 13624 S15/Hot Topics 23-Dec-91 01:19:37 Sb: #13614-#What's happening? Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 (X) Hi Mike... Have you been writing anything in C on your MM/1? Using cgfx.l? I'm not absolutely positive yet, but I think it may be buggy. I seem to get unpredictable results from some commands. I've been crashing the machine a lot! Having a great time! I can't write anything in assembler (which I like much better than C) until I get manuals - don't know which registers to load with what for syscalls... There is 1 Reply. #: 13719 S15/Hot Topics 28-Dec-91 00:37:33 Sb: #13624-#What's happening? Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) i have not done anything in C yet. I will HAVE to when i port the BBS over. modules done in assembly on the CoCo will be done in C on the MM/1. There is 1 Reply. #: 13738 S15/Hot Topics 28-Dec-91 19:51:39 Sb: #13719-What's happening? Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 Hi Mike... How come? Scared of 68000 assembler? Chicken? I'm writing in C for the MM/1 now mainly because I can't get my hands on a good assembler reference book. I've got one ordered, but it'll take a while. I've written a little replacement code for the faulty (I think) cgfx.l Palette command. I'll upload it in a program called 'colors'. Feel free to scoop the working part, modify it and put it in yer personal lib if you want. I wrote the same thing in Basic09 - hopelessly slow (ie. pathetic as usual). Never did like Basic09 much... #: 13616 S15/Hot Topics 22-Dec-91 22:48:06 Sb: #13492-What's happening? Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Well once my new machine arrives i will most certainly relate that! However it will take more then the I/O board. the machine itself needs replacing since its the OLD prototype and some hardware changes have taken place from what i was told and the serial port is also different. What i set up with paul can now allow me to wait without problems. theres something about starting a program that you can't ever say "its done" so all the new goodies I am adding to it will simply carry over to the MM/1 instead of being done on the MM/1. if by then I still don't see progress (which im looking at summer 1992) I don't know what will happen. Possibly go another route. If he can't work out his problems and delays by the summer he probably will not be able to work them out. After so many delays even if all are totally legit does wear on the patience and confidence of the customer. I aplogize for being so blunt but it is how I feel. Mike #: 13677 S15/Hot Topics 25-Dec-91 23:19:01 Sb: #13251-MM/1 delivery Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Hard to say just when. Ed wants to re-do the manual, a job that I will stick him with if he insists. I need to desigtn a workaround for the lack of SS_KeySense (or else get a strong rumor that Kev D has finally added it) -- the workaround would use the ALT key and not be difficult, so I'll go ahead, probvably. Meanwhile we need to get the circuit out for the play-only MIDI hardware-requires a crystal TTL oscillator, not a RatShack item unforch. But at least the scores are 100% cokmpatible with Coco. You might ask to be a Beta tester...mike k #: 13680 S15/Hot Topics 25-Dec-91 23:26:29 Sb: #13260-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) Glad to hear you're back in the UME market. OSK version is being held up by a coupe things, but what's there is great. Call (919) 294-1558, that's Kala Software, when the time comes. Sounds like your machine got lost in mail -- if Paul says it shippED (as opposed to "shipping this weekend", etc.), then it went out. Guess UPS doesn't know these MM/1s are rarer than Rembrandts and need careful tratment :-) After work hours, Paul7;s phone now becomes a BBS modem where you can leave email for him and come back for replies-have you tried that? --mike k There is 1 Reply. #: 13688 S15/Hot Topics 26-Dec-91 02:25:04 Sb: #13680-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Hi Mike... I've got my MM/1. No I/O board or HD yet, but by late January I hope to be 'in business'. As it is, I'm using it regularly with 2 floppy drives. I do plan to be a customer - I definitely want Ultimuse for this machine. Regarding being a beta tester - do I qualify? Wouldn't mind wringing your program out, if you're interested..., but can't help ya till late Jan. or Feb. #: 13678 S15/Hot Topics 25-Dec-91 23:20:06 Sb: #13255-#MM/1,SKEL, & Rodents Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X) Messy Dog == MessDog == MSDOG == Idiots Buy Me substitute for OS. --mike k There is 1 Reply. #: 13700 S15/Hot Topics 26-Dec-91 21:57:35 Sb: #13678-MM/1,SKEL, & Rodents Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Idiots Buy Me. I like that. What's that other operating system; Eunichs? #: 13679 S15/Hot Topics 25-Dec-91 23:22:44 Sb: #13256-MM/1,SKEL, & Rodents Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) Thanks for info on Artec. Yeah, I should probably exchange my mouse with Mark G for a new one. "Mouse System" equals Logitech, does not equal Micro soft. Also I think some mice say PC or XT for Logitech and AT for Microsoft. And I used to think the PC world was organized and standardized and it was us Coco and OSK freaks that were all messed up -- hoo boy did I get that wrong! #: 13681 S15/Hot Topics 25-Dec-91 23:29:10 Sb: #13300-#MM/1,SKEL, & Rodents Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 (X) Hmmmm....from what I heard, a mouse can't be both Microsoft and Logitech/MSys compatible -- unless there's a little selector switch, which my Artec mouse does indeed have. Switch sez "PC-3 Key" for Logitech and "MS-2 key" for Microsoft. Key means buttons of course (or "ears" on a catfood mouse :-) There is 1 Reply. #: 13694 S15/Hot Topics 26-Dec-91 18:30:58 Sb: #13681-MM/1,SKEL, & Rodents Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Well, the ones I've seen say Microsoft and Mouse Systems compatible, and they don't have a switch. Oh well, I found a Logitech mouse for $50 (it's called the 'FirstMouse'). It has three buttons and looks pretty good. When I get my I/O board (Paul said he had it in-house a week or so ago, so maybe soon?) I'll go get the FirstMouse and try it out. Wish me luck! ;) --Colin