#: 3284 S7/Telecommunications
    05-May-90  11:23:01
Sb: #Modem problems
Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
To: [F] Wayne Day 76703,376 (X)
Wayne:
I don't know if you can help me or not, but I have a problem with my setup for
telecommunications.
First, the problem. For some reason, I'm not able to call up my term software,
dial the number, then go on line. If I do, nothing will transmit through my
comm port. It recieves, but nothing is sent. There is still full control of all
the program commands, but when the program is exited, it locks up the window.
The way it has to be done is. Load the program into memory, dial number,
execute program. An example is.
     Load sterm
     Dial (CIS #) wait for CD and switch on modem
     Sterm <enter>
If it is done this way, there is no problem. Everything works fine, and when I
exit the program, the window still works.
The problem seems to be in the switching on of the modem when the program is
active. I don't know if it is sending a surge or something on connection that
is causing this, but I would like to get it fixed if I could.
This is what I'm using. A Coco 3 512K,Disto Super Controller I with 3in1 board,
and a Tandy Modemphone 300. I have two versions of Sterm (1.2, 1.3), Xcom9, and
Osterm. The same thing happens on all of them, so it would seem to be something
in the hardware.
If you are at a loss, maybe you know someone who might be able to help.
     >Lute<
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#: 3293 S7/Telecommunications
    05-May-90  13:38:42
Sb: #3284-Modem problems
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
Lute -
If nothing is sent, try configuring your modem to:
   o - Always assume DTR is on (or IGNORE it)
   o - Force a CARRIER DETECT at all times
See what that gets you...
Pete

#: 3347 S7/Telecommunications
    07-May-90  18:40:13
Sb: #3284-#Modem problems
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
Lute,
Have you tried it with the modem turned on prior to executing Sterm, but before
dialing? If that works then the problem may be with DSR. Which serial driver
are you using, ACIAPAK? What kind of cable do you have between your modem and
the serial port?
Bill
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#: 3364 S7/Telecommunications
    08-May-90  20:37:31
Sb: #3347-#Modem problems
Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
Bill:
With the Modemphone when you engage the modem the dialer is disabled.
It seems to be a quirk is this hardware setup. When I was running under DECB
through the bitbanger it never gave me any trouble.
I'm useing ACIAPAK with the patch that comes on the Disto disk with the
discriptors. I've also made the hardware hack with the diode that was in The
Rainbow. I'm useing a Super Controller I with a 3 in 1 board, so that is my
RS232 port.
The Modemphone has the cable built in, you just plug it into the port.
I do hope to be moving up to a 2400 baud auto answer/dial unit in the not too
distant future, but until then...
I dug out an old Modem I, and have logged on twice with no problem now.
     >Lute<
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#: 3400 S7/Telecommunications
    10-May-90  17:18:57
Sb: #3364-#Modem problems
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
Lute,
Sounds like the problem is the modemphone. It must be handling one of the
critical signals in a non-standard way, or at least in a way that the RS232 pak
can't deal with (since the RS232 pak does some not so standard things). Not
knowing anything about the modemphone, I can't guess what the problem might be.
Since the Modem I works, I would suggest sticking with it until you get a
chance to upgrade to a "real" modem :-)
Bill
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#: 3406 S7/Telecommunications
    10-May-90  19:55:12
Sb: #3400-#Modem problems
Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
Bill:
Yea, I kinda figured on doing that. BTW what would you suggest in the lines of
a "real" modem? (For a guy with a Cray II appetite and a Coco budget.) All I've
ever used is Tandy stuff. The Modemphone and the Modem I, so when it comes to
this stuff I'm not real well versed.
     >Lute<
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#: 3420 S7/Telecommunications
    11-May-90  18:03:21
Sb: #3406-Modem problems
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
    Lute,
         I don't know about anyone else, but the prices for 300/1200/2400 baud
   Hayes compatible modems were all close together, so I just bought the one
   with the longest warranty (5 years).
     Paul

#: 3288 S7/Telecommunications
    05-May-90  12:37:36
Sb: #3202-sterm.ar
Fm: Bud Hamblen 72466,256
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Quite nicely.

#: 3330 S7/Telecommunications
    06-May-90  20:48:30
Sb: #RE 3293
Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
To: Pete Lyall
Pete:
I don't think that the carrier detect has anything to do with the problem. If
the phone line is disconnected and the modem is turned on, you can hear that
there is something being transmitted to the modem. There is no CD at that time.
However if I switch off the modem, and turn it back on it locks up the
transmit. Then when you exit the program it locks up the window.
What is the DTR? How might I configure my modem to assume it is always on? I
looked through my manual, and didn't notice anything on it. (I'm learning, but
there's a long way to go yet.)
     >Lute<
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#: 3344 S7/Telecommunications
    07-May-90  18:38:17
Sb: #3330-#RE 3293
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
Lute,
The RS232 pak requires high signal on DTR, CD and I think CTS before it will
listen to a thing being sent to it.
Depending on the modem, you can either flip a few dips or send a few commands
to accomplish this task. My Hayes 2400 baud modem handles the task nicely with
the command string of AT &C0 &D0.
Older style modems have a switch you can filp to accomplish the same thing.
Real old modems require a jumper of pins 6-8-20 on the cable.
You might want to peruse Pete's disertation on serial communications in DL1
called SERIAL.TXT. It might shed some light.
Steve
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#: 3363 S7/Telecommunications
    08-May-90  20:35:34
Sb: #3344-RE 3293
Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Steve:
I don't have any trouble getting things in, it's sending stuff that is the
problem. My screen will fill up with all kinds of good stuff until the host
wants a reply of some type. IF you look up msg # 3284, you can see what is
going on.
However, I hooked up an old modem I that I picked up for "just in case" and
have logged on twice now with no problems.
Know anyone who wants a couple of Modemphone 300s.
     >Lute<

#: 3385 S7/Telecommunications
    09-May-90  19:21:12
Sb: #3330-#RE 3293
Fm: Bruce Isted (UG VP) 76625,2273
To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
~ Lute,
  The problem you describe with transmit locking up, and then the program
locking up when you try to quit, sounds like your modem isn't asserting DSR. In
order for ACIAPAK to work properly with a modem, the modem must always assert
DSR, or you must tie DSR on the RS-232 Pak so that it is always enabled.
  Usually people only have trouble with the 6551 ACIA (thats the one in the
RS-232 Pak and clones) because they don't see any characters until the DCD line
is enabled... but the DSR problem is even worse when you run into it.
  The way the ACIAPAK driver works, if DSR is or isn't enabled when the serial
port, its OK... and transmit data works.  Then, when the modem raises DSR when
you first CONNECT, everything still works OK because DSR is valid and transmit
is enabled.  When the modem disconnects, if the DSR drops *THATS* when the
problem occurs.  The ACIAPAK driver sees that DSR is no longer valid, so it
disables transmit data... which means you can no longer communicate with the
modem to force DSR on (if your modem supports such a command), or to do
anything else.  Finally, when you quit the program it hangs up, because there's
transmit data to be sent, and transmit is disabled, so the buffer can't be
flushed.
  The best bet is to look in your modem manual for a DIP switch setting that'll
always enable DSR, or to look for a command that'll do the same job.
  Bruce
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#: 3405 S7/Telecommunications
    10-May-90  19:53:52
Sb: #3385-#RE 3293
Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
To: Bruce Isted (UG VP) 76625,2273 (X)
Bruce:
The problem is only on start up. If I turn the modem on before the program is
exicuted every thing seems to work fine. At the end of a session the modem can
be shut off and the program will exit correctly. The problem seems to come only
if the program is running when the modem is turned on. (Most of the time, not
always) there has been a few times when every thing has worked OK.
I have switch to using my old Modem I, it seems to be working properly. So I
will stick to using this till I can upgrade to a more suitable unit. I'm using
a Disto controller with a 3in1 board, and the ACIA is a 6551, however in the
manual that comes with the board it says that the DSR and CTS to the ACIA are
always enabled. If this is the case, then I shouldn't have the problem you
mentioned should I?
Bill Dickhaus seems to think the problem lies with the Modemphone. He feels it
must be doing something on startup that something doesn't like.
     >Lute<
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#: 3412 S7/Telecommunications
    11-May-90  00:58:46
Sb: #3405-RE 3293
Fm: Bruce Isted (UG VP) 76625,2273
To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
~ Lute,
  You're right... if the DSR on the 6551 ACIA is permanently tied to the
enabled position, then what I described is not the problem.  Since another
modem works fine, your best bet is to use the one that works until you upgrade
to a faster modem.  When you do upgrade, I'd recommend an "AT" command set
compatible modem.  I'd recommend you stay away from the cheapest fast modems,
but there's no need to go out and buy the most expensive, either... unless you
absolutely need 100% Hayes compatibility.
  Bruce PS:  I just threw in that "recommendation" because I saw your message
asking Bill Dickhaus what modem to get.  With most of the modems I've seen you
get pretty much what you pay for.  The cheap modems often have problems with
noise that wouldn't bother a better (more expensive) modem, while the really
expensive ones don't perform all that much better, at least not as much as you
might expect from their substantially higher price.

#: 3427 S7/Telecommunications
    12-May-90  08:26:21
Sb: #3406-Modem problems
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230 (X)
Lute,
I can't really recommend any one particular modem. My experience has been with
a very inexpensive 2400 modem (Supra) that works, but is a little flakey, and
with one of the older US Robotics Courier modems that is rock solid (but was
almost $400). Bruce is right, though, avoid the really cheap ones, so plan to
spend at least $150. DO NOT buy the US Robotics modem that is around $150, I
have had nothing but trouble with two different versions of that model at work.
Also Hayes modems seem to be overpriced.
Bill

#: 3429 S7/Telecommunications
    12-May-90  10:26:24
Sb: #S-Term file loss
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Anyone
   I could swear that sometimes while using S-Term I lose my capture file.
Usually I open /r0/name with the esc-C command. I close it before exiting
S-Term. After exiting S-Term, sometimes it isn't there. Thought I might see if
anyone else has this happen.
          Paul
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#: 3431 S7/Telecommunications
    12-May-90  11:01:18
Sb: #3429-#S-Term file loss
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)
Paul,
The capture feature of STERM has been rock soild for me for years.
Is it possible that you're miss-keying the path name and the file is actually
ending up somewhere else? I've had that hhappen to me more times than I care to
admit ;-)
Steve
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#: 3461 S7/Telecommunications
    13-May-90  15:07:49
Sb: #3431-S-Term file loss
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
    You're right. After being very careful about closing the file each time the
problem went away. There is also that phantom /ro typo.
     Paul

#: 3467 S7/Telecommunications
    13-May-90  18:29:06
Sb: #Q-Mail
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Anyone
      O.K.
          Anyone want to talk about a Q-mail reader for the Coco?
       Is one available or do we need one?  Suggestions....
               Paul
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#: 3470 S7/Telecommunications
    13-May-90  20:51:57
Sb: #3467-#Q-Mail
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)
Ok, I'll bite .... what's a Q-MAIL ?
Steve
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#: 3489 S7/Telecommunications
    14-May-90  18:03:50
Sb: #3470-#Q-Mail
Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
      I'm not sure either. Apparently it's becoming popular on PC based BBS's.
I was board bopping and called 201-334-2555 (Hacker's Central) in NJ. The board
hung up early on me and I immediately got this voice phone call- it was an
apology from the sysop. Anyway, we talked for awhile and he mentioned that if I
had a Q-mail reader I could scan the somewhat large message bases very quickly.
It seemed legit to me as I have run into 'Q-mail' on other boards. There was a
weird member application question on this board "Who is the manufacturer of
your CPU?" Since I said 'Motorola'I was asked what operating system I used. The
sysop (Mike) was apparently familiar with this and knew I had a COCO at this
point. Another thing weird is some of the boards I was calling supported 38K
baud over the standard phone lines. I didn't know that was possible.
      Anyway, if no-one here knows how Q-mail works, I will make an effort to
find out.
       Paul
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#: 3529 S7/Telecommunications
    16-May-90  16:30:19
Sb: #3489-Q-Mail
Fm: J SILLIMAN 72355,1207
To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X)
Q-Mail is a door that IBM boards can use to download messages and read/reply to
them offline.  This door is great for long distance callers.  It is very easy
to use, and is fairly fast... I know this because I have used it before... I am
sort of a mixed user

#: 3490 S7/Telecommunications
    14-May-90  20:21:07
Sb: WIZ
Fm: John Dickey 76537,2631
To: Bill Brady
 Bill,
 In WIZ, is it possible by changing a byte at an offset from the start of the
 main program using DED, to change the default Printer path?  What I would like
 to do is set it up for /T3.  By doing this I will be able to send information
 out to a remote terminal or if I desire to a remote printer by using the
 transparent print function of the terminal. As a side note I am also sending
 a msg to Frank to get the descriptor and driver to allow WIZ to work with the
 Eliminator package.  I do have the system presently configured for the non-
 polled interrupt mode. Any help you can give in this matter would be much
 appreciated.
 John /exit

#: 3615 S7/Telecommunications
    20-May-90  01:19:53
Sb: #Modem Problems
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: ALL
Ok. I've made the change. A lot of people have been telling me to change to
osterm. I have, and It is a very good program. Way to go Vaughn! But I have
been plagued by a problem that I thought was due to Telstar, but still shows up
under osterm 2.08. When I try to dial a local BBS #, my modem will not dial. It
receives the codes because I can see the lights fl ash on the modem. But it
won't dial. I have dialed this service, and a long distance bbs just a few
minutes ago. I must admit I did have a problem dialing CIS this time. I am
borrowing another rs232 pak now, so I t doesn't look like that is the problem.
My MPI is modified. I am using a 1200 baud radio shack modem . I did notice
that the 2 bbs's that I had problems dialing used 7 bit data, and the long
distance bbs used 8 bit. Can a modem be sensitive to certain phone #'s. It
seems like the only thing it can be is the modem. ANny ideas ?
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#: 3650 S7/Telecommunications
    21-May-90  10:39:17
Sb: #3615-Modem Problems
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
Tony -
Biggest questions are:
a) Is the RS232 pak in slot 1 in the multipak?
b) Do you have the IRQ Hack installed.
Also - if you haven't scanned SERIAL.TXT in DL2, it's worth reading.
Pete

#: 3628 S7/Telecommunications
    20-May-90  14:33:27
Sb: #Help
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: ALL
Hi,
Having trouble getting 0S9 Level II to work with Wiz. It seems that the
Multi-Pak, RS232-Pak, and modem are problem. I can't communicate with the
modem. The MPI has been upgraded and all slots work. The RS232=Pak has been
checked and is operating fine. So I must be doing something wrong. What have I
missed that would not let the computer communicate with the modem (a Multi-Tech
224E Hayes compatible). The Pak is in slot 1.
Thanks, Butch 76702,1126
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#: 3651 S7/Telecommunications
    21-May-90  10:42:23
Sb: #3628-#Help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Butch  -
It seems to be the day for serial troubles. If you haven't already looked, have
a gander at SERIAL.TXT in DL2. Also, try one of the other term programs here
that doesn't require its own device driver (i.e. Xcom9, Sterm, etc. in DL7).
Pete
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#: 3671 S7/Telecommunications
    22-May-90  09:23:09
Sb: #3651-#Help
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
Hi Pete,
  Thanks for the info. I will DL the file. Someone has told me that the <CD>
light on my modem need to be on and it isn't. So I will check in to this and
see if that is the problem. Thanks, Butch
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#: 3675 S7/Telecommunications
    22-May-90  11:01:18
Sb: #3671-Help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
Butch -
very true.... because of the design, the CD line must be active to the RS232
pak in order to function properly. I'll bet that's it.
Pete

#: 3669 S7/Telecommunications
    22-May-90  08:24:07
Sb: #3628-#Help
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Butch,
You don't mention it, but let me ask:
Doesn't Wiz require it's own special aciapak driver? Have you installed this
and created a new bootfile?
Steve
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#: 3672 S7/Telecommunications
    22-May-90  09:33:38
Sb: #3669-#Help
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Hi Steve,
Someone has told me that I need the <CD> light on for OS9 to work. At this time
it only comes on when I have a connect. If this is correct then this must be
the problem. I guess I need to find out how to force the <CD> to be on all the
time. I sounds good to me. I know that the computer was not communicating thru
the MPI to the RS-232Pak. Does this sound right? I am a end user, I just do
what I have to to make it work. This is the hard way to go with OS9, but my
computer knowledge is very limited.
Thanks, Butch
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#: 3711 S7/Telecommunications
    22-May-90  20:45:30
Sb: #3672-Help
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
Butch,
The rs232 pak _requires_ Data Set Ready (DSR), Data Carrier Detect (DCD) and
Clear to send (CTS) lines to be held high. This can be accomplished in
different ways. If your modem is capable ...that's the easiest. Investigate the
&C and &D commands.
Another way would be to jumper line 6-8-20 together. Either will generally
work.
Steve

#: 3634 S7/Telecommunications
    20-May-90  20:48:17
Sb: #WizPro
Fm: BOB GLAD 71046,1134
To:  70126,267 (X)
Bill
I downloaded WizPro and I love it.  I will soon write for the unabridged
version. I do have a problem.  I have a friend that has a Disto Super
Controller II.  I downloaded Proans.bin which I thought was a replacement for
your standard ProAcia. He is not planning to use a multipak because he is
installing his CoCo in an IBM case.  He also has a 4 in 1 board.
After making a new bootdisk with Proans.bin substituted, WizPro would run but
not communicate with the modem (with no multipak), and would not run WizPro at
all with the multipak.
Did I download the wrong program or make some other mistake.  I don't have the
expertise to debug.  Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated.
                           Trucker Bob
P.S. I noticed that the archive downloads were in a different
     arrangment than noted in the docs.  There is no WizPr3.ar
     and no Nuhost.  Was Nuhost deliberately left out or did
     I miss it somewhere?  Thanks in advance.
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#: 3677 S7/Telecommunications
    22-May-90  12:13:24
Sb: #3634-WizPro
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: BOB GLAD 71046,1134
Hmmmm. I am not familiar with Proans.bin. That may be for the Eliminator??? To
use the supercontroller II all you need to do is patch MWP so that the address
for the port is FF54 instead of FF68. With modpatch you just change byte 10
from 68 to 54. On the reupload of pro, I just put it into two files vice 3. Let
me know if you need more help. -BB

#: 3719 S7/Telecommunications
    22-May-90  23:02:23
Sb: #3650-Modem Problems
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
Yes. The rs232 pak is in slot 1. I'll look into the IRQ hack as well as
serial.txt. IT just doesn't seem possible that this would cause my modem to not
be able to dial the Hound & Lion BBS. Just doesn't make sense. I can dial other
numbers, reliably !!
THANX
TC

#: 3725 S7/Telecommunications
    22-May-90  23:44:08
Sb: OSTERM
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Vaughn Cato
Vaughn.
I reallly like osterm. I wisj [DI would have listened to everybody and switched
over a long time ago. I have a few probelms I need help with (not my typos).
Aas you can see there are a few funny chars. in this meaagssage, primarily
([D's. This happens when I press the left arrow while in osterm. Sometimes it
will backspace, sometimes it wont. Also when I have selectes to receive a file
while downloading, and the little window is displayed with the words pick lits,
whenever I type in s a filename, the line gets erased and  sometimes it will
beep at me. I know there is not a file with the same name in that directory. I
finally had to press break, hoping it would kill the program, because I could
not get anywhere. When I hit break, it finally started to download. Is there a
better version of the documentation available ?
Keep up the good wokr. Looking forward to more excellent work from you.
TC

#: 3732 S7/Telecommunications
    23-May-90  02:11:47
Sb: #3675-#Help
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
Hi Pete,
  Thanks for your help. I'm using Wiz and the RS232-Pak to send this message. I
found a switch on the inside of the modem. The manual said the CTS is set to
forced on at the factory. But it was set to off. This is a used modem, so
someone has been inside. I was ready to give it up.
Thanks, Butch
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#: 3735 S7/Telecommunications
    23-May-90  10:42:59
Sb: #3732-Help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Butch ...
Good stuff. Glad to see you running.
Pete

#: 3733 S7/Telecommunications
    23-May-90  02:15:12
Sb: #3711-#Help
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Hi Steve,
  You are right. I read the manual and found a switch inside the modem that had
been changed from the factory setting. It drove me nuts. But I'm run on OS9 and
Wiz right now. Thank You for your help.
Butch
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#: 3750 S7/Telecommunications
    23-May-90  19:09:44
Sb: #3733-#Help
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
I just love a success story! Glad we were able to point you in the right
direction. You did all the work.
Steve
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#: 3774 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  08:33:34
Sb: #3750-#Help
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Hi Steve,
 Sure am glad that everyone here is here. Otherwise alot of OS9 users wouldn't
be users. To many cracks to fall thru when learning OS9. I think everyone must
need the help of old <grin> users. Thanks, Butch
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#: 3777 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  10:12:03
Sb: #3774-#Help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Butch -
Probably true... In the old days when there were no OLD USERS (must be talking
about you, Kevin ;^})... we had to light small fires, chant, and sacrifice
small animals (mostly belonging to obnoxious neighbors..) to get things figured
out. Things are surely a lot nicer now.
A side anecdote: were you all aware that Kevin wasn't  an _early_ os9 user? He
was a staunch RSDOS-er. Worm has turned, eh?
Pete
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#: 3786 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  19:27:40
Sb: #3777-#Help
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
Hey. Hey. Hey! <grin> I was never a "staunch" RSDOS-er. Just not an early OS9
user. I got it the moment it came out for the CoCo, but because I wasn't on a
network, I didn't have anything I could really do with it at first (well, I did
a partial CoCoMax clone in a pmode 4 screen which no one has ever seen ... each
tool (brush/erasor/etc) was a different program which loaded on the fly -
reason I built a 128K upgrade and wrote the first coco ramdisk driver for os9).
But yep, I didn't use OS9 all the time. Pete was way ahead of us on that... of
course <smile>, having a L-II box certainly helped there, eh?!
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#: 3790 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  20:57:48
Sb: #3786-#Help
Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
You build a 128K upgrade for the CoCo2? Neat!
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#: 3791 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  22:54:26
Sb: #3790-Help
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
Yeah, built a 128K coco-1 for myself and a friend. Then DSL (and later J&R)
came out with commercial 128K upgrades, and DSL sold my ramdisk for L-I...
which is how I met a lot of people like the LR Tech guys at my first fest: they
knew my name from the ramdisk driver... which people had taken apart and used
to help write hard disk drivers with!
Funny thing is, I based my ramdisk driver on the hard disk driver published in
Kilobaud magazine by.... Pete Lyall's old boss! Small world, eh?

#: 3793 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  23:23:39
Sb: #3786-Help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
Kev -
Actually, I didn't get the Gimix until about 1985. I was running on an 'E'
board 32K that I hacked to 64K, a Wordpak I, and a PRO systems 10 MB hard disk.
Prior to that, I had been running w/o the hard disk, but used a 40DSDD and 2
80DSDD's under Flex, using a borrowed VT-100 out of the serial port. Best
damned bit banger driver I ever saw was in FLEX... 9600 baud FDX, if I recall.
Before that...... nah..
Pete

#: 3785 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  19:11:53
Sb: #3774-Help
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Butch,
It's hard to forget the path we've traveled in the past. We've all been there.
You'll get your turn to offer the tidbits soon enough.
Glad things were so easy to fix!
Steve

#: 3734 S7/Telecommunications
    23-May-90  09:49:03
Sb: H+L
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Tony Cappellini 76370,2104
Hi Tony,
  If it is the same Hound and Lion in Calif. it shut down. Paul is moving. It
was a good BBS. And Paul was SysOp that eveyone would like to have running a
BBS.
Butch./EXIT

#: 3738 S7/Telecommunications
    23-May-90  14:12:35
Sb: #VT-100
Fm: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527
To: Anyone
Does anyone know of a Os9 Terminal program that does VT100 emuation? It has to
be Os9 and I would like if it were not real big. (Need to run 2 other windows
at the same time with programs). Wiz, I know has VT52 but I need Vt-100
thanks..
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#: 3749 S7/Telecommunications
    23-May-90  19:04:48
Sb: #3738-VT-100
Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
To: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527 (X)
Try KBCom by Eddie Kuns. Currently it is shareware with a COmmercial version
due out soon. Does VT100 GREAT!!!
Zack

#: 3764 S7/Telecommunications
    23-May-90  23:16:13
Sb: #VT-100
Fm: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527
To:  76407,1524 (X)
KBComm sounds great. Where can I get it. I looked onCIS but it wasn't here. If
I could download it that would be great.
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#: 3778 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  16:53:56
Sb: #3764-#VT-100
Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
To: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527 (X)
I checked the libs after recommending it, and fer sure it ain't there. So I
sent a message to the author "over there". If he OKs it, I will be submitting
it tonight.
Zack
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#: 3783 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  19:00:48
Sb: #3778-#VT-100
Fm: Donald R. Spoon 76417,1302
To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X)
Zack,
    I asked the same question to Eddie a while back (about up-loading KBCOM
here).  He gave me a very definate YES!!! He also was surprised that it was not
here already.  I have not done it since I have been embroiled in other matters
as of late.  For what it is worth, you can go ahead.  Eddie said that he had
included this permission in the docs.  If you have it on your machine, you can
get your answer there.  I have been forced into the MSDOS world since I moved
last summer, and have not found a way to de-arc OS9 programs on this machine so
I can't get to the docs for KBCOM without unpacking a lot of boxes and setting
up the COCO3, which I should have done months ago.  Hope this helps.  Cheers,
Don Spoon.
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#: 3789 S7/Telecommunications
    24-May-90  20:56:21
Sb: #3783-VT-100
Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
To: Donald R. Spoon 76417,1302 (X)
Thanks, will do!

#: 3811 S7/Telecommunications
    26-May-90  03:32:26
Sb: #3734-#H+L
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Yes it is in california. I used to live less than a mile from him, and I
couln't dial his board. Beleive it or not I still cant. My system just won't
dial his number. Aas for Paul, he is moving this weekend. So Ssorry his new
residence only has 1 phone line and he won't be runnging his BBS. In fact I am
using one of his modems right now, trying to figure out why I can't dial his
old number. Wweo     Wwierd stuff, this Os9. I did get to see his board run
from his monitor. It is really fast. He has made a lot of modifications on his
systerm and they really have helped. The diskmaster with the 1.5meg ramdisk was
a big help. Too bad I won't be able to call it up.
TC
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#: 3843 S7/Telecommunications
    26-May-90  19:09:37
Sb: #3811-#H+L
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
Hi,
  It is to bad that Hound and Lion is shut down. Paul was very helpful to the
new OS9 users. He should get another phone and fire it up. That leaves only
Plain Rap for the Coco users. I think Plain Rap is about seven year old. That
is old for a BBS. Most are up and down in no time. I think that a BBS is more
work then most people think they are.
Butch
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#: 3850 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  02:52:31
Sb: #3843-#H+L
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Butch, do you live in the area (southern California) ? I have never called
plain rap, but since Paul is down, I'll probably be using it regularly. Yeah,
Paul was very helpful to me. I'm using his rs232pak and 2400 bd modem now.
These are just temporary though. I have a disto rs232 on the way. The reason
Paul isn't getting his bbs running is because GTE wants big bucks to run
another phone line in at his new residence. I can understand his point of view.
Are you new on CIS. I don't remember seeing your name before. I've been on over
a year, but I really want to switch over to Delphi, cuz i'm running up too many
bills. Talk to you soon. TC
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#: 3853 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  04:22:51
Sb: #3850-#H+L
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
Hi TC,
 No, I've been on for aboar or more. OS9 is new for me. Used RS-DOS for the
pasted three years. I'm a SysOp on the new PETS forum that has been running
since the last of Feb. I live in Newhall. All BBSing is a toll call for me. I
work to pay my Pacific Bell bill. It is a killer. I've heard the you can run up
a big bill on Delphi. It isn't cheap. All in all I like CIS. Some nock it but
they just want free BBSing. If you need Plain Rap's number let me know. They
have some great people on there.
Butch
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#: 3867 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  16:32:51
Sb: #3853-H+L
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
I have plain raps # but I can't seem to be able to stay on the line. I'm set up
for 8 N 1 1200, but I don't see anything intelligab le. I don't get anything
from him. I just installed the diode hak, and wanted to see if it was working.
Wwell I called CIS ok, but I can't do anything on Jim's board. Maybe it's down.
Do you have a voice # for him. ?? TC/exit

#: 3812 S7/Telecommunications
    26-May-90  03:39:14
Sb: #OSTERM
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Vaughn Cato
Vaughn I tried to run some of my applications from my ramdrive, but when I try
to run osterm from there, it responds with an 'unable to link to macro error'
and just sits there. I have moved the options and ddir files to the RD as well.
If I chx back to the hard drive, everything is ok. It seems as if I am missing
a file or two, but I don't know what it is. Aalso I can't backspace bwhile in
osterm because I get these characters [D. OOPs. Just had a revelation. My
terminal was set for ansi, instead of tty. Now it works. I've been calling a
lot of os9 boards lately and was using os9 grafx and ansi as well. Got to
remeber to save that info.
THANX. TC exit
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#: 3821 S7/Telecommunications
    26-May-90  07:21:36
Sb: #3812-#OSTERM
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
Hmmm. I'm not sure Vaughn's on any network... just BBS's right now. I'll pass
on your msg (if no one else does) tho.
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#: 3831 S7/Telecommunications
    26-May-90  12:16:41
Sb: #3821-OSTERM
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
WOuld you see if you could find a bbs # where I can contact him or a voice line
# THANX TC

#: 3815 S7/Telecommunications
    26-May-90  03:59:16
Sb: #3774-Help
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Yep. They have pointed me in the right direction many times, but there are
still lots of cracks out there, and I keep stepping in them.

#: 3816 S7/Telecommunications
    26-May-90  04:15:59
Sb: #3777-Help
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
Pete, Speaking of the old days, they just hired the guy who wrote the Dircopy
program for Smoke Signal. He used to work at IBIS, and they did most of their
work on OSK systems. Actualy we have been hiring a lot of peoplee from Ibis
lateley. Anyway, Bruce showed me the source code for his program. I wonder if I
could get it to work for the 80 column windows, it used to hang up in the
interactive mode unless yoy were in /term. I would appreciate ANY help with
this, as I am still learning about os9's windowing quirks! TC

#: 3841 S7/Telecommunications
    26-May-90  13:13:03
Sb: #IRQHAK 4 DISTO RS232
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: [F] Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
I just ordered the disto now halt controller with rs232 option since they were
on sale and my rs232 pak is flaking out. How do I do the irqhak for an rs232
port in the disto NH controller ?? TC
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#: 3847 S7/Telecommunications
    26-May-90  22:23:54
Sb: #3841-#IRQHAK 4 DISTO RS232
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
Tony - the SC-II manual I think shows a pin at one corner of the board ( near
to the coco)... the rs232 port plugs into it, as this is the IRQ/CART pin. So
that's also where you could run the irqhack from if you wished.
If you have the diode hack (and it works for you) then you needn't worry.
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#: 3851 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  03:02:00
Sb: #3847-#IRQHAK 4 DISTO RS232
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
I put the diode in and I think it was ok. I had some other hardware problems
that made me think I had rs232 problems. But one day when I turned on my coco3
and all I got was garbage and could not reset the computer, I lifted up one end
of the diode and the garbage went away. I bought the diode at RS. Maybe their
parts are inferior or not up to spec. I heard that the diode hack did not work
on ALL coco3's. Paul Pollocks computer locked up or something when he put it
in. I still have one diode left and i'm running a completey new machine ($129),
so maybe i'll fire up my soldering iron after breakfast and try the diode hak
again.
I am occasionally getting the incorrect time from my disto clock module when I
start up shells in windows that I open from startup. The year usually comes up
as 93, the rest of the date and time is ok. But when I time date,t SOMETIMES i
get ?????, and the time. I had this problem before. It comes and goes. Maybe I
should have thought twice before I ordered the SCII and rs232 ? TC
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#: 3855 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  06:52:47
Sb: #3851-#IRQHAK 4 DISTO RS232
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
Hmm... if you bought a pack of diodes from RS, they might indeed be bad. We
found that was true with most of their transistor packs, for example.
Individual units should be okay, tho.
Some people get that time problem.. and durn it, someone else once mentioned a
possible fix or reason for it.... but I can't remember it! Anybody?
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#: 3868 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  16:37:20
Sb: #3855-IRQHAK 4 DISTO RS232
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
I talked to you about this problem awhile back. Maybe you forgot that it was
me. I just put in the diode on this new machine. Sso far it seems to work.
Please let me know if you hear more about that fix for the Disto clock. I don't
think Tony is interested with system related problems, however if you port is
bad he will fix it or test it (CRC will), but I don't think I would get much
help from him regarding a software oriented problem (if that is what it is).
 10 Q TC

#: 3854 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  06:14:01
Sb: PT68K
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: Scott Howell 70270,641
Hi Scott!
Simmy said OK so I will mail his sc68681, Term, T1, T2 and T3 to you. One
thing, they are set up for 19200 baud - you may have to change them.
Ed

#: 3862 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  10:48:22
Sb: VT100 Emulation
Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
To: ALL
KBCom.ar is now available in DL7. The best VT100 emulation program for OS9
Level 2 that I've seen. This is Shareware version. Commercial version due out
sometime this summer. Written by Eddie Kuns.
Zack

#: 3872 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  16:50:12
Sb: #3677-WizPro
Fm: BOB GLAD 71046,1134
To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
Bill
I appreaciate the reply.  I will make the patch and try it out.  I probably
downloaded the wrong file or ect.  I will send soon for the complete package.
T. Bob
Press <CR> !>90  22:04:34
Sb: #3874-M$OS9Lvl query
Fm: David George 72240,134
To: Robert Heller 71450,3432 (X)
Thanks for both of your replies.  The first is just what I needed.
I was able to read the M$OS9Lvl in the INIT module.
Actually M$OS9Lvl is a 4 byte value which holds lvl.ver.ver.rev
For example on my system OSK v2.2 is reads 1220 For Level I ver 2.2 rev 0

#: 3876 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  17:31:28
Sb: #Remote term
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: All
I downloaded LOGIN.AR a while ago, and have a few questions that need some
answers that I can't find.
The AR file is l*o*n*g on programs, but very short on information on how to set
up a remote terminal. Is there a file in the libs that explains in a
step-by-step manner how to go about setting this up?
I'd like to connect the PCjr upstairs to the CoCo; from what I understand at
this point, I need to cable the CoCo RS232 output to the parallel port on the
jr and have a terminal program running on the jr.  Is this a correct assumption
on my part?  What else do I need to do?
 ...Jim
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#: 3879 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  21:22:26
Sb: #3876-#Remote term
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X)
> ... need to cable the CoCo rs232 output to the parallel port on the jr ...
Whoops!
Jim, I hope you meant to the serial port on the jr. And yes ... it needs to be
running some type of termianal program.
Pete's file SERIAL.TXT in LIB 1 should fill in the gray areas, complete with
cable diagrams.
Give a shout if we can help.
Steve
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#: 3903 S7/Telecommunications
    28-May-90  14:51:19
Sb: #3879-Remote term
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
~ Steve;
  Yeah, yeah, that's the one! Serial port.  I knew that!
It's been a while since I read SERIAL.TXT, hafta go back and pay attention this
time!
I'm sure I'll have more q's as I get into this, so stick around.  I never kept
any messages relating to re-addressing a 2nd RS232, so I'll definitely have
some on that subject (unless I can get my hot little hands on an MM/1 before
having to purchase another 232 for the CoCo).  Figured on using an A/B box for
now, just as a test environment.
 Thanks,
     ...Jim

#: 3880 S7/Telecommunications
    27-May-90  21:26:35
Sb: #3872-WizPro
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: BOB GLAD 71046,1134 (X)
Lemme know if you need more...

#: 3888 S7/Telecommunications
    28-May-90  01:34:17
Sb: #3675-#Help
Fm: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
hey pete, did I ask you if your bbs was still running so that i could keep ti
on my list? best regards wayne   COCOS9ER!
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#: 3936 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  11:36:53
Sb: #3888-Help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: WAYNE LAIRD 73617,3042
Wayne -
Well, it's still running (has been since 1985 or so), but it's not really a
BBS. There's mail & files, but the system is more like a unix system (i.e. no
BBS'isms like message bases, games, privelege levels, etc.). Just OS9 (with
some enhancements) doing its thing.
Pete

#: 3935 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  11:35:02
Sb: #3816-#Help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
Hmmm... was 'dircopy' written in a Pascal flavor? I seem to remember something
about that. Also, it SHOULD work anywhere, unless he specifically opened /TERM
in his code. Have a look and see what you can find.
Pete
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#: 3979 S7/Telecommunications
    30-May-90  01:18:57
Sb: #3935-Help
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
no it was written in C. The Computerware version was written in Pascal,
supposedly. I'll bring the sourve with me if I get a chan ce to come out & see
your system. I think he did some 68K specific calls, but I'm not that sure
about C & OS9 just yet. I really could use some pointers, and I don't mean *.
TC

#: 3892 S7/Telecommunications
    28-May-90  02:31:38
Sb: #3867-#H+L
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
Hi TC,
  I haven't had any problems with Plain Rap. Do you hit <CR> when you are
connected? I know some of the OS9 BBS's are that way. I just don't know if I do
it or not. I do know that Jim's board has no problems as of Sat. But something
is wrong. Good Luck.
Butch
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#: 3914 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  00:26:18
Sb: #3892-#H+L
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
I talked to Jim on Manday. Everything was ok on his end. I finally got logged
in after about 6 calls. He called me back later that night.
TC
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#: 3927 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  09:20:25
Sb: #3914-#H+L
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
Hi,
  What was the problem? Do you use Daynastar? I'm having a problem with it and
was looking for someone that uses it.
Butch
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#: 3978 S7/Telecommunications
    30-May-90  01:16:10
Sb: #3927-#H+L
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Paul Pollock uses it. His phone (voice) is still the same. TC
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#: 3988 S7/Telecommunications
    30-May-90  02:06:39
Sb: #3978-H+L
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
TC,
   Thanks,
Butch

#: 3893 S7/Telecommunications
    28-May-90  02:52:04
Sb: #3854-#PT68K
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
Hi Ed!
Just thought I'd say hello on line -- haven't seen you in a while!
Paul
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#: 3895 S7/Telecommunications
    28-May-90  04:48:35
Sb: #3893-#PT68K
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)
Hi Paul!
Good to hear from you.  While I don't contribute much, I'm usually here every
couple of days or so to see what's going on.
While I have you, I didn't get your last mailing on the MM1.  Looking forward
to seeing it in August(?).
Ed
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#: 3899 S7/Telecommunications
    28-May-90  13:37:56
Sb: #3895-#PT68K
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
Ed,
I'll send out stuff today. MM/1 has a RESPONSIBLY DETERMINED ship date of
August. Development units are shipping now, andthe only small changes that are
being made allow for several daughter boards in development.
The bus is in great shape, too, and you should keep an eye out here for news
that will interest you.
Paul
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#: 3921 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  04:33:20
Sb: #3899-#PT68K
Fm: Jim Williams 72157,3524
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)
Once I can afford Dev status on the Millenium, I wanna get a portable
version... possible?          --Eet--
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#: 3931 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  10:33:00
Sb: #3921-PT68K
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Jim Williams 72157,3524
The LCD display is the hardest thing to get working -- you know, to follow the
mouse and so on.
BUt the form factor is right for a portable, I believe. We should probably talk
about this on the phone some day. GIve me a call at 202/232/4246.
Paul

#: 3916 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  00:49:43
Sb: #3847-#IRQHAK 4 DISTO RS232
Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
I insatlled the diode hack two days ago, and I lost the carrier while logged on
here. Don't know if it was the phone line or rs232 problems.
Wwant to hear some really wierd problems ? I tried to modify my startup file
 and copying all my files to it. Well when  I put in a goto no_format label in
the startup file it bombed out while trying to start up a shell in /w7 . Wwhen
I removed the goto and the label, it executed normally. On top of that, when I
did an mdir, my modules that I  had merged with the shell were in memory in
reverse alphabetical order ! When I merged them I started out with shell attr
copy del  etc...  I even did did an ident on the merged shell file to verify
this. Got an answer for those ?
This one really grinds at me ... I opened up the gclock from MV and tried to
set the date and time because they were wrong. No matter how I entered the date
and time , It responded with illegal entry. I finally had to close gclock.
I am tired of fightting these elusive problems and not getting anywhere. I
wonder, would not using the right scf module for gshell1.24A cause ANY of the
above problems. With all the numerous patches around (no I did not keep a log
of my changes) I think I may be using some modules t that were intended for
gshell 1.24 with 1.24A. I remember reading that there was two or three version
of the scf module, and one had mentioned your name.
Also I could not get the wilcard expansion to work for shell2.0 . Aafter
reading the doc file a few times, I finally tried the wild card feature out. I
typed :fstat *, and it showed the stats for all files in the directory. Then I
typed :attr * , and it only returne the attr's for one file. I tried it with
dir as well but got another strange response. Wwhen does it all end.
Is there anyone who is willing to spend a little time and help me nail down
these problems ????
TC
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#: 4041 S7/Telecommunications
    01-Jun-90  01:23:49
Sb: #3916-IRQHAK 4 DISTO RS232
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X)
Tony,
Heh-heh, you should see the troubles people have on other machine forums ;-). I
don't think the world has gotten to a user-friendly computer stage quite yet,
eh? Ah well, someday.
Yeah, modules sometimes go in the module dir in reverse order. Guess we should
find out why, just for curiousity's sake.
Dunno what format gclock expects time in... something like "11:03pm" or
something? Anyone recall? Is it in the manual?
Your wildcard problems are because many commands won't accept more than one
filename as a parameter. As time goes by (and now that we have wildcards),
people are writing replacements that do.
Easy enough to tell for now; just try it by hand ("dir /d0 /d1", etc) and see
if that particular command works.
Everything makes sense. Just gotta figure it out slowly. After all, it's
supposed to be a fun hobby <grin>. best  - Kev

#: 3944 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  16:50:12
Sb: #Help
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Sysop (X)
Hmmmm.. Guys, how do I setup CIS for 8 bit mode? Default is different since I
was there last.
There is 1 Reply.

#: 3946 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  17:52:40
Sb: #3944-#Help
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 (X)
Bill, you can't set 8-bit mode at the terminal setting menu (GO TERMINAL) but
you CAN set the parity to NONE.
Mike
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#: 3959 S7/Telecommunications
    29-May-90  21:06:49
Sb: #3946-Help
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X)
Hmmm, thanks, I'll give it a try.

#: 3996 S7/Telecommunications
    30-May-90  11:29:57
Sb: t2 hwe
Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366
To: all
does anybody know about the new aciapak works with /t2?

#: 4108 S7/Telecommunications
    04-Jun-90  06:24:00
Sb: Fido
Fm: Al Fleagle 72527,1354
To: Bruce Isted 76625,2273 (X)
Can anyone tell me about a local node for fido?  I'm looking for a fido<net>
node near Little Rock, AR.  I understand there may be one in Conway, AR.  I
would really appreciate the help if someone has the number.

#: 4113 S7/Telecommunications
    04-Jun-90  19:19:50
Sb: #UUCP
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
To: All
A friend of mine (Bob Billson) is interested in the UUCP port. He asks for info
on how it's coming along and when will it be available? I keep on tell~ring him
to sign up, but he says he can't afford CIS.
Hugo
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#: 4117 S7/Telecommunications
    05-Jun-90  00:28:17
Sb: #4113-UUCP
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)
Hugo -
Mark Griffith indicates that the UUCP port may be available in July or so.
Tell your friend that with prudent and efficient usage habits (as outlined in
at least one file here on the forum), CompuServe can be scoped out for just a
few (under 5 or 10) minutes a day. You logon, capture all messages nonstop, and
then use one of the offline tools ('view') to read and respond to messages.
Then you just upload the responses as text files later. Nothing to it.
Pete

#: 4122 S7/Telecommunications
    05-Jun-90  06:19:00
Sb: #4113-UUCP
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662 (X)
Hugo,
The UUCP port is coming along nicely, but there is still some work to do on it
before it can be released.  This is about as complicated a package as I would
like to tackle in a long time (whew!).  As with all software development, you
are tempted to keep adding features and never get it done. So far, only a
couple utilities need to be completed, and the tranfer protocol needs a little
tweeking.
I'll probably be making a call for beta testers later this month, so tell your
friend if he would like to test it, please let me know.
Mark

#: 4138 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Jun-90  17:57:01
Sb: UUCP
Fm: Hugo Bueno 71211,3662
To: Mark Griffith
Mark,
Here's Bob's reply. I guess he's really interested in UUCP!
Msg#:28818 *COCO* 06/06/90 12:21:29 (Read 4 Times) From: BOB BILLSON
  To: HUGO BUENO (Rcvd) Subj: REPLY TO MSG# 28736 (UUCP) I forgot to add some
info yesterday.  Since I don't have a CI$ or Delphi account, tell Mark he can
reach me via UUCP.  My Internet address is:
kc2wz@ka2qhd.uucp       OR     kc2wz%ka2qhd@tsdiag.ccur.com
My UUCP "bang path" is:
   ...uunet!rutgers!tsdiag!ka2qhd!kc2wz
Bob Toegel, whom I mentioned is also very interested in getting involved in the
beat and bash testing, doesn't have a UUCP address....yet. :-)  I can relay any
messages to him.

#: 4145 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Jun-90  23:31:57
Sb: #4108-Fido
Fm: Bruce Isted (UG VP) 76625,2273
To: Al Fleagle 72527,1354
~ Al,
  I asked a local fidonet sysop (John Musselwhite of Keyboard BBS: 403-246-6943
300/1200/2400 8N1) for some fidonet BBS numbers in your area, and he came up
with the following 3 in Conway:
        Thunder BBS     1-501-329-9419
        Quantum Leap    1-501-329-6240
        0007 Bird       1-501-329-0007
  He says there are more in Conway, but none in Little Rock.  If you contact
one or more of these BBSes you should be able to find the rest.  Oh, in case
none of them carries the COCO and OS9 echoes at present, ask the sysop for
"COCO" or "OS9" on the "backbone".  At least I think thats right... if not
exactly right it should be close enough to get what you're after, if you're
interested in those echoes at all.  There are plenty more echoes to choose from
as well, far more than I would even attempt to list.
  Bruce

#: 4183 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Jun-90  12:43:27
Sb: #4122-UUCP
Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
Greetings Mark.  I've run a UNIX machine at home for sometime and am
interesting in your UUCP port for OS9.  I have an Atari ST running OS9 which
I'd be happy to test your port on.
When you are ready for beta testers, let me know.
--Dwight D. McKay
--...rutgers!pur-ee!mckay -or- mckay@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu -or- 75776,1521

#: 4188 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Jun-90  13:20:04
Sb: #3738-VT-100
Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
To: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527
Fenton:
I know that OSterm has VT100, as well as ANSI TTY and OS9. I use it every where
but here. I boot up with two windows, and a RAM disk and have no problems with
it at all.
     >Lute<

#: 4238 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Jun-90  21:42:26
Sb: #3931-PT68K
Fm: Jim Williams 72157,3524
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)
Paul, sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I moved (well, am still
moving). I'll phone you as soon as possible.         --Eet--

#: 4243 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Jun-90  22:48:00
Sb: #OSTerm Ascii Upload
Fm: Al Fleagle 72527,1354
To: all
Why doesn't OSTerm work in the ASCII upload mode?  I've written my messages
off-line but can't upload them using OSTerm.  Can anyone help?
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#: 4248 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Jun-90  23:14:58
Sb: #4243-OSTerm Ascii Upload
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: Al Fleagle 72527,1354 (X)
Al, the last time I used Osterm I noticed it had nothing designed in that would
allow a plain ascii upload of any kind. It IS possible to upload a message
using xmodem if you'd like to try it but it's not nearly the same thing.

#: 4391 S7/Telecommunications
    15-Jun-90  17:59:58
Sb: #terminal for cc3?
Fm: Vince Mulhollon 72766,1500
To: all
Hello, Would you please describe your terminal programs advantages and
disadvantages?  I have a CC3 w/ 512K,RS232 pak,300 baud autodial modem, and
monochrome monitor.  I need a good XMODEM compatible terminal program.  Which
would you suggest? Thanks,
       Vince Mulhollon 72766,1500
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#: 4395 S7/Telecommunications
    15-Jun-90  20:44:52
Sb: #4391-terminal for cc3?
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Vince Mulhollon 72766,1500 (X)
Vince,
Sterm (available here) does a nice job with xmodem ... and an even better job
with CIS B+ protocol. It's simple and real hard to mess up..
Steve

#: 4432 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Jun-90  08:52:45
Sb: #View
Fm: Al Fleagle 72527,1354
To: re 4317
re 4317 ~ Bill, I understand the need for a message delimiter such as "#:".  My
only problem is that in large message downloads the search routine for the
message delimiter "#:" doesn't appear quite rugged enough to stay on track.  I
miss replying to messages because View misses the "#:" delimiter.  I'm using
View right now and I had to go into Dynastar to remove all the characters from
the file which preceeded the "#:" of the first message.   What I'm suggesting
is re-writing the search procedure so it can find the "#:" whether it is the
first character in the file, the fourth character, or the one hundredth
character.  If the code were re-written to search for "#:" wherever it might
occur and not rely on it being the first character on the line might also help
make it more rugged for searching long message downloads.  I might be getting
some line noise which moves the "#:" from the first character position and View
can't find it so it skipps the message.  I'm just suggesting this because I
like the View program and would like to make it slightly easier to use.
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#: 4437 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Jun-90  10:34:55
Sb: #4432-View
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Al Fleagle 72527,1354
Al,
Just guessing here, but if view treated _all_ occurances of "#:" as a start of
a vaild message you'd get some pretty unpredictable results.
Folks that include a copy of a message in the body of the one they're presently
writing would be one culprit. I'm sure there are other instances.
Steve
Press <CR> !>

#: 4438 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Jun-90  11:47:32
Sb: #4437-#View
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Steve,
Not to mention what it would have done to Al's message! Look at all those
"#:"s! There are just some basic assumptions that have to be made in order for
offline message processing to work. The possible combinations of scrambled data
boggle the mind, and the actual messages themselves can contain confusing
information, even TAPCIS will barf on a message within a message.
It does help to be a little flexible, though, maybe the scan routine in view
can be modified to ignore leading blanks when searching for "#:".
Bill
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#: 4445 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Jun-90  18:28:58
Sb: #4438-View
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
<thunk>
Perfect example!
I recall thread upon thread of automated folks cringing at phrases such as _off
at_ being part of message text. :-)
I've played with View a bit, but I still do most of my stuff interactively.
Seems more personal, I suppose. I'm gonna have to look to the automated stuff
just from a time saving standpoint.
It's all I can do to keep up with what few forums I visit now. And there's
always something new to take a look at here!
 Steve

#: 4485 S7/Telecommunications
    18-Jun-90  23:28:41
Sb: #4432-View
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Al Fleagle 72527,1354 (X)
~ Al;
  Try this :
comment out the line just AFTER "READ #inpath, i$"  and just before or after it
add this line :
 "IF SUBS R(prompt1,i$) > 0 OR LEFT$(i$,L2)=prompt2 THEN"
and see if this works for you.
  It would seem that you're getting line noise or other stray chars. in your
data stream. Although this MIGHT cause you to miss a  occasional message, the
program should re-synch after reading the next message header.  Yours is the
first report that I've had on this problem, so I'm at a bit of a loss right
now.
  The problem with this fixtis that the program will probably not be able to
pick up the message number which sets the reply flag, and it won't allow you to
reply to the message.
  I'm working on the program right now, and will keep your problem in mind and
try to incorporate a more positive method of ID'ing the message start.
  ...Jim

#: 4447 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Jun-90  18:32:56
Sb: #UUCP Beta testers wanted
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: All
Call for UUCP beta testers:
The OS9 UUCP port is nearing completion.  To test the package as much as
possible, additional testers are needed.  Anyone wishing to become a beta
tester please read the following requirements:
    1.  You must have access to a UUCP site to test file transfers.
        You also must be able to establish a UUCP login account on this
        system, Either setting it up yourself or getting the system
        administrator to do it for you.
    2.  You must have dial-in access to your OS9 system and you must
        have a modem setup for auto-answer available at least during
        the night to receive UUCP calls.
    3.  You must be able to make some long distance phone calls, at least
        during the night, to call other UUCP testers.  The number of calls
        you are willing to make depends on how much money you can afford.
        You WILL NOT be required to make lots of calls (perhaps one or two
        a week).
    4.  You must have Pete Lyall's CRON utility, or be able to download it
        from here and implement it on your OS9 system.
    5.  You must be willing and able to replace any existing login system
        with one of two new systems to have UUCP work correctly.
    6.  You must have a mail utility, or be willing to install one of
        several available on your system.
    8.  You SHOULD have a hard disk drive, but this is not required.  A
        floppy disk system must be able to hold all the UUCP files.  A
        system using 720K disks should be fine, but a 360K system with
        only one drive will not.  In any case, a floppy based system may
        not be fast enough.
    9.  You SHOULD have the OS9 C compiler and know enough about C programming
        to be able to make minor changes if needed.  However, those without
        the compiler can still be a tester, but you'll have to settle for
        the defaults built into the UUCP package.
   10.  You must be able to work with myself and the other testers.  Anyone
        just looking for an advance copy of the port need not reply.  Source
        code will only be given out to those showing an express need.
If you need more information, post a message here, in E-Mail, or call me
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#: 4550 S7/Telecommunications
    21-Jun-90  14:43:49
Sb: #4447-#UUCP Beta testers wanted
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
I am interested in beta-testing your UUCP software.  I have a UUCP node
locally, and meet all of your other requirements easily.  I am also still
waiting to hear if I can obtain a copy of the source...
Thanks, StG
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#: 4592 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Jun-90  08:04:37
Sb: #4550-UUCP Beta testers wanted
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
Scott,
I'm not sure you would want to test the uucp port since it will require one of
two different login packages which are probably much different then yours, as
well as a different mailer.  In any case, I'll put you on the list.
As far as getting source code for the 'g' protocol stuff, I'd like to know
exactly what you plan on doing with it.  I really don't want to see it used in
someone elses commercial package.  Know what I mean?
Mark

#: 4448 S7/Telecommunications
    17-Jun-90  18:34:22
Sb: UUCP Beta testers needed
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: All
UUCP Beta testers:
My last message was cut off at the end.  It was supposed to read:
call me at home in the evening from 6 PM to 11 PM at 904-736-1535.
Mark

#: 4530 S7/Telecommunications
    20-Jun-90  21:46:43
Sb: #Sterm
Fm: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
To:  76070,41 (X)
Mark:
I have a couple of questions for you. I'm using Sterm 1.3 on CIS now, but with
a modified termcap. I have only the very basic commands in it. If I try to use
the one that comes with 1.3 I end up with a very interesting display, and a
locked up system.
So where can Isget this CC3io patch? Please don't tell me it was with the AR
file. When I downloaded Sterm, I was still using a CoCo 2, so much of the stuff
just got filed, and when I looked for the AR file I can't seem to fi d it. Must
have scratched it at some time.
Also what term set should I be using on CIS? At this time it's set to (other).
Is this what I want?
     >Lute<
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#: 4589 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Jun-90  08:04:08
Sb: #4530-Sterm
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: LUTE MULLENIX 70721,2230
Lute,
The termcap entries that Sterm use only need to be simple.  Sterm uses the code
for erasing the screen, reverse video, and cursor movement only.  Any fancier
entry is just wasted with Sterm.
There have been problems with the termcap port on the 6809.  I don't know how
to correct it tho, and really haven't looked into it to much.  The main reason
I used termcap was to allow porting Sterm 1.3 to different OS9 systems
including Pete Lyalls GIMIX (now deceased), and OSK machines.  It's a shame the
6809/OS9 termcap port was not better since it does cause system lockups as you
have noticed, simply by changing one byte in an entry.
To correct your problem, I'd stay with the entry that works for you.
The patch for CC3IO is included in the archive for the latest Gshell patches.
Can't remember the name, but if you go to DL10 and look for the latest Gshell
patches, it should be in there.  You can also use the other patches in that
file.
As far as you terminal settings for CIS, I'd use a CRT and have it send
formfeeds.  This clears your screen between each menu and looks neat.
Mark

#: 4584 S7/Telecommunications
    23-Jun-90  22:32:53
Sb: ArcNet
Fm: BOB GLAD 71046,1134
To:  76703,4227 (X)
    Kevin-
    How ya been?  I have not heard anything out of you for some time.  Frank
    came over tonite and he had gotten a lot of files thru his work which
    originated from ARCNET.  How do we get on this.  Seems to be a pretty
    interesting place.
    I've been using WizPro a lot and was wondering how much difference there
    was between CIS B+ and YModem.  They both seem to use packet sizes of one
    K.  Is YModem just as good as B+?
    Frank ordered his modem this week.  He should have it soon.  Would you
    like to trade modems with me?  I like this Supra Modem because of its
    front power switch.  Mine in newer and works just fine.  Its a Smart One
    2400 baud.  I have packaging and manual.
    I think that I can start to put together pieces for my hard drive  I'm
    looking at a 42 meg. and eventually replacing my drives with 3.5 80
    tracks.
    By the way-- Picked up something on one of the arcnet messages.  Is there
    much trouble with the Disto 1 meg board with the Tandy 512k upgrade or is
    this something that has already been fixed up?
    Hope to hear from you soon.
    Trucker-Bob
    -eof

#: 4599 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Jun-90  11:26:56
Sb: #4584-#Bitnet
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: BOB GLAD 71046,1134 (X)
Hey, T Bob!
I think you meant Bitnet for those files from Frank. Being out of town as much
as you are, you'd probably better not sign up (it comes in thru CIS Mail, so
you'd need to read it every day, almost).
No idea about Y-Modem vs CIS B. Probably close to same speed, I'd guess.
Someone will correct me if not <grin>.
Glad to hear you may be able to start on the hard disk route.
Going to the meeting this week? You in town?
Kev
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#: 4622 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Jun-90  22:57:07
Sb: #4599-#Bitnet
Fm: BOB GLAD 71046,1134
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
Kev-usual. I had been using Y-Modem and noticed as far as I could see not much
difference in speed.
I am also following Frank's lead and advise and probably will get a Seagate 42
MB "N" series.  Probably will take a little while to put all the pieces
together.  I also probably will replace my floppies also.
Frank downloaded the whole thing from BitNet and it looked downright
interesting.  Didn't know how it works tho.
Before I forget-- Does the Disto upgrade conflict with the Tandy 512?
Well gotta run.  Will drop by some weekend.
Trucker-Bob
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#: 4626 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Jun-90  23:38:00
Sb: #4622-#Bitnet
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: BOB GLAD 71046,1134 (X)
Okay, Bob.
On the Disto 1meg thingie; I suppose it just happened that it didn't work with
that one guy's Tandy board. Hadn't heard otherwise yet. Hmm.. unless there's
some kind of physical problem? Not sure. I'll ask.
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#: 5037 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Jul-90  00:34:09
Sb: #4626-Bitnet
Fm: BOB GLAD 71046,1134
To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X)
Hey Kev..
Sorry that it took so long to read your message.  I've been out of town more
than usual.  When I read your first message reply I thought you might have
ducked this question. <grin>
I, at this point, don't know how I will spend the money that I have saved.
Getting a little confused by all the hardware options as well as the new
products that are coming out.  I would like to reread your message that you
posted on the cost comparison of the MM1 verses a competetor like IBM ect. I
might keep on saving my money until I can afford one of these machines.
Let me know if you find out anything on the compatibility problem on the Disto
if there is one.  I still might go this route as a stopgap.
Talk to ya later.
                                    T-Bob

#: 4612 S7/Telecommunications
    24-Jun-90  15:40:51
Sb: #4592-#UUCP Beta testers wanted
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
Yes, I do want to test the uucp port.  I have multiple machines, and can run a
test on a different one.  I can also interface my mailer to any format.
I want to get the source code for the protocol so that I can rig it to function
from within the StG login package.  This would allow my StG nodes in the
netherlands and australia to hook into a local uucp node instead of calling
major long distance.  It would also help for within the country too.
The StG login package is a commercial package (barely).  But whatever small
modifications/additions to the UUCP software will be placed in the PD.  I have
no interest in selling UUCP, only allowing people who are using StG to hook
into UUCP.
I may not even need the actual G protocol source - all that I am interested in
is the bare routines necessary to implement a transfer.  In essence, something
I can pipe a pre-formatted list of messages into, run to do the transfer (I can
write my own handler for calling in), and which outputs a list of messages to
be posted.  I can take it from there.  Depending on how modularized your set of
modules is, I may not even need any source at all.  But it would be silly to
sit down and write my own G driver.
If you wish, I would even relinquish docs and libraries on interfacing to my
package and you or someone else can do the interface and post it pd.  But as I
wrote the stupid thing, I could handle it much faster.
My intentions in obtaining your UUCP driver are simply to enhance an already
existing network of OS9 people across the country (and world).  I have no want
to make money from this, or even to steal your coding and use for my own
purposes.  All I want is to improve communications between OS9 people by
hooking together networks.  Surely you can understand that.
Let me know what I must to do convince you.
StG
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#: 4642 S7/Telecommunications
    25-Jun-90  22:07:20
Sb: #4612-#UUCP Beta testers wanted
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)
Scott,
If you write out the work files in the format that uucico expects them, you
might not have to write any code at all.  You need to transfer several files at
once? Pretty simple, just write out the list in the right format, giving the
file a name that uucico will recognize and it will go on its own.
You don't need to convince me, just that I'm always a little leary when someone
asks for the source code and mentions porting to his/her special environment. 
Not that I didn't "steal" lots of my routines from Steve Sampson who did a port
of uucp for UniFlex.  Don't know how he got it to work right tho....I had to
work it over pretty good.
Anyway, I'll send you the source code along with the rest of the uucp files.
I'd appreciate it if you would let me see what you do with it.
Mark
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#: 4664 S7/Telecommunications
    26-Jun-90  19:34:18
Sb: #4642-#UUCP Beta testers wanted
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
Hey, thanks!  It will take me a bit to get to it (spending the next two weeks
solid on getting OSKer out), but I will get it working and send you back what I
have accomplished.  You can send to me via StG@hummer.iupui.edu if that would
be easier/cheaper.  Or any StG-net machine.
Yah, it will be a lot easier to understand how it works if I have some source
to glance at... I figure I won't have to change anything, just add whatever
interfacing necessary.  You want a free copy of the StG sw?  You might want to
wait till I get V4 done - it doesn't 'take over' your machine like the current
V3 does.  And conforms more to the 'standards'.  Well, sort of. Let me know if
you'd like a copy.
Again, thanks - I really appreciate this.  And I know the rest of StG-net will
especially.  I will mention your assistance on the net when I get it working...
StG
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#: 4712 S7/Telecommunications
    28-Jun-90  05:43:29
Sb: #4664-#UUCP Beta testers wanted
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)
Scott,
I'll send you the stuff via internet mail at the address you gave.  I'll be in
CUTS format.  If you don't have CUTS, it is available here in DL10, I think.
Mark
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#: 4755 S7/Telecommunications
    29-Jun-90  22:37:56
Sb: #4712-#UUCP Beta testers wanted
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
I can't find that CUTS in DL10... If anybody knows where it is, please speak
up.  Otherwise, could you send me a copy of some source for it...
StG
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#: 4764 S7/Telecommunications
    30-Jun-90  05:14:32
Sb: #4755-UUCP Beta testers wanted
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)
Scott,
CUTS.AR is in DL9.  Do a "bro cuts*" and you'll find it.
Mark

#: 4628 S7/Telecommunications
    25-Jun-90  02:35:08
Sb: #4589-#Sterm
Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
Mark,
Do you have any inkling where the termcap code fails?  I'm running a level two
box similar to the Gimix. Everytime I run Sterm the keyboard locks tight after
giving the current baud rate.
Wendell
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#: 4641 S7/Telecommunications
    25-Jun-90  22:06:53
Sb: #4628-#Sterm
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X)
Wendell,
Sorry....no clue.  All I know is if you play around with the termcap entry it
either works or it crashes.  I'm really disapointed in it.  Are you giving the
port name when you run Sterm?  Currently, Sterm defaults to port t2 unless you
give it another name on the command line like:
    sterm -f /t3
You think that might be it?
Mark
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#: 4646 S7/Telecommunications
    26-Jun-90  01:50:54
Sb: #4641-#Sterm
Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
Mark,
Here's the problem: When I run Sterm (command line: Sterm -f /t9) the standard
input path appears to shut down. Nothing from the keyboard makes it to the
program. However, if I switch to a second virtual terminal window and send the
appropriate Hayes code to the output port (t9), the modem will print out its
menu to the Sterm screen (when I switch back to the virtual terminal that's
running Sterm). In other words, Sterm will not take anything from the keyboard.
But, it will print what comes to it from the T9 port. I've tried to get the
terminal to unlock the keyboard and just about anything else that sounds
vaguely similar, but no-go. And changing Termcap doesn't do anything.
This is a strange one.
Wendell
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#: 4654 S7/Telecommunications
    26-Jun-90  09:45:03
Sb: #4646-#Sterm
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X)
Wendell -
Hmmm.... like your other questionable device drivers, I wonder if your serial
port drivers support sending signals on data available (i.e. SS.Sig)... betcha
that's it.
Pete
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#: 4657 S7/Telecommunications
    26-Jun-90  15:22:44
Sb: #4654-Sterm
Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
Pete,
I think you're right. From my very limited view (grin) the serial port driver
looks like it will send a signal to wake up the process, but won't do anything
with the keyboard. That's probably why earlier versions of Sterm (and Xcom9)
work while the latest Sterm won't. The new Sterm polls the keyboard
differently. Right?
Of course, you must realize that I don't have the slightest idea what I'm
talking about.
Wendell
P.S. First day of summer heat here in LA: had to turn on air conditioner to
keep computer from flipping out. It must be over 100 outside.

#: 4711 S7/Telecommunications
    28-Jun-90  05:43:26
Sb: #4646-#Sterm
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X)
Here's the problem: When I run Sterm (command line: Sterm -f /t9) the standard
input path appears to shut down. Nothing from the keyboard makes it to the
program. However, if I switch to a second virtual terminal window and send the
appropriate Hayes code to the output port (t9), the modem will print out its
menu to the Sterm screen (when I switch back to the virtual terminal that's
running Sterm). In other words, Sterm will not take anything from the keyboard.
But, it will print what comes to it from the T9 port. I've tried to get the
terminal to unlock the keyboard and just about anything else that sounds
vaguely similar, but no-go. And changing Termcap doesn't do anything.
This is a strange one.
Wendell,
I think Pete hit on the problem for you.  However, I'm not sure as to why since
Sterm 1.2 also used keyboard signals to get a character.  You say that 1.2
works fine and 1.3 locks up on the keyboard?
Hmmm....very strange.
Mark
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#: 4719 S7/Telecommunications
    28-Jun-90  13:00:05
Sb: #4711-#Sterm
Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
Mark,
By older version of Sterm, I was referring to a really OLD version (9232
bytes). Perhaps just a prototype of today's Sterm. The current version that
won't work has 31561 bytes and is labeled The OS-9 User's Group Universal
Terminal Ver. 2.0. I assume that's equivalent to version 1.3
Wendell
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#: 4763 S7/Telecommunications
    30-Jun-90  05:14:29
Sb: #4719-Sterm
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X)
Wendell,
Well, if the oldest version on STERM works for you, then I'd say the problem is
the keyboard signal since all the later versions use it.  Can't help you much
with that.  New drivers maybe?
Mark

#: 4640 S7/Telecommunications
    25-Jun-90  21:55:33
Sb: #Uploading messages
Fm: Al Fleagle 72527,1354
To: all
Is there any way to compose a message so when I upload it Compuserve simply
takes it without asking me for the user number or name?  I've tried the View
program but Compuserve still asks for the user ID and/or name.  Any ideas? I'd
like to just upload a file of seven or eight messages all at once but I haven't
figured out how.  Any help will be appreciated.
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#: 4649 S7/Telecommunications
    26-Jun-90  05:45:05
Sb: #4640-Uploading messages
Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473
To: Al Fleagle 72527,1354 (X)
Al,
  Yes it is possible, although your uploading may go faster than CIS sends it
back to you. Your script should look like this (and keep in mind, I am going
one char over in this example, because the slashes would actually do this if it
were flush left...grin).
At the Forum prompt:
 L   <---stands for Leave (a message)
 {this is the body of your message.}
 /ex <---flush left...as you know this exits the editor
 POST;{TO UID};{SUBJECT};{SUBTOPIC AREA}
 The {TO UID} is who the message is to: ie..Dan Robins 73007,2473
 The {SUBJECT} is what it is about: ie.. Leaving A Message
 The {SUBTOPIC AREA} is the section you want: ie.. 10
 Here's a short example...and remember, everything would be flush left, if I
were doing this for real:
 L
 Leaving a message for Dan Robins to show how and uploaded ASCII text file
 could take care of leaving a message for me.
 /ex
 POST;Dan Robins 73007,2473;An Automessage;10
 Now..there is a way to upload messages here, but, I have found out from
experience, that when I had more than one, this was the quickest way to get the
job done for me. Mind you though, it will all look garbled because CIS falls
way behind in echoing the info back to you.
  Dan

#: 4673 S7/Telecommunications
    27-Jun-90  00:35:20
Sb: #4640-Uploading messages
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Al Fleagle 72527,1354 (X)
Al;
  The next revision to VIEW incorporates <L>eaving messages (starting a new
thread) as well as storing all replies in one file for transmission to CIS.
  I'm still having some minor problems with getting the 'editor' function to go
back and correct a previous line, but should be done sometime RSN.
  Are you still getting stray chars before the "#:" ?  I've tried several
different methods of determining message start, and so far, haven't come up
with anything more reliable than the present method.
  In addition to Dan's reply, you might check out a file called FAST.CIS
ineeither LIB1 or 2.  It's got a lot of info on just what you're a
..Jim

#: 4714 S7/Telecommunications
    28-Jun-90  05:44:38
Sb: #UUCP Port
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Dwight McKay, 75776,1521 (X)
Dwight,
Thanks for your reply concerning testing the UUCP port.  Unfortunately, this
port is for OS9/6809.  I don't have an OSK machine yet so the OSK port will be
coming out a little later.
Mark
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#: 4756 S7/Telecommunications
    29-Jun-90  22:39:13
Sb: #4714-#UUCP Port
Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
I can do that for ya - got an ST I'm using for development that needs something
to do...
StG
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#: 4765 S7/Telecommunications
    30-Jun-90  05:14:35
Sb: #4756-UUCP Port
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X)
Scott,
I will be doing OSK development soon myself so I'd like to port UUCP to OSK. I
have some more I want to add for that environment.
Mark

#: 4965 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Jul-90  20:51:56
Sb: #4714-UUCP Port
Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
Okdokey.  Let me know when you are interested in an OSK port, maybe I can help
you then...
Good luck with the 6809 port!
--ddm

#: 4885 S7/Telecommunications
    05-Jul-90  01:16:22
Sb: #modems
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: all
This must be question night for me....
I'm thinking of getting a 2400 baud modem. Most of my on-line time is spent
with this system (CIS). Is there any advantage to getting one with Level 5 MNP?
From what I understand the through-put is about 2x using this protocol, but not
if things are already compressed (like an AR file)? Also, do CIS nodes support
MNP?
Any advice on this will be appreciated.
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#: 4890 S7/Telecommunications
    05-Jul-90  07:45:17
Sb: #4885-#modems
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
Bob,
I'm in the process of making the same decisions on a modem.
At present, CIS MNP nodes support only a level 3 protocol as I understand it.
You can use a level 5 modem with a level 3, but yo'll only make use of the
'error correcting' capabilities here on CIS.
If you have a nasty line, MNP will make all the difference in the world.
Next problem, CIS is in the process of phasing in MNP support. Not all nodes
support it. GO PHONES to see if you have such a supported node.
You can use a level 5 modem with a non MNP modem ...it should just drop back to
normal mode.
With prices dropping like mad, I'm planning to get the level 5 support. (I _do_
have a supported node). That way, I'll have the capability if and when it
arrives here. In the meantime, I can make use of the features on the other
systems I use that support it.
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#: 4946 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Jul-90  01:31:06
Sb: #4890-#modems
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Steve,
I guess that getting one with MNP is probably the best idea. Even if it isn't
supported just now . . . if it will be later. You see, I have to call long
distance everytime I access CIS so that the savings really multiply when I cut
down my access time.
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#: 4951 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Jul-90  11:14:46
Sb: #4946-modems
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X)
You bet Bob .... my thinking as well.
Just remember that MNP levels must be matched at each end, else it will drop
back to the lowest level of commonality.
For example, if you had a level 5 modem and called a system that supported
level 5 you'd get th bennefit of the error correction and the compression.
However, use your Level 5 modem to call a CIS level 3 node, all you'd get is
the error correction.
Steve

#: 4930 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Jul-90  16:59:52
Sb: WIZ Query
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: Bill Brady 70126,267
Hi, Bill, how are things with you?  I'm now "self-employed" and enjoying the
change.  Still working same place, but generally only Tues/Wed. I'm still using
WIZ as my comm package of choice (although PROCOMM is pretty good on messy-dos
machines), but I need a WIZ answer I can't find in your manual.  How do you set
the BREAK byte in the autolog sequence? I bought a Tandy 1100FD to replace the
100 (actually 102) that had given me such fine service over the years.  The
1100 is a good machine, but has a couple of annoying flaws in its built-ins;
the worst is sloppy printer drivers that can't drive the printers as claimed.  
Regards - Ches.

#: 4957 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Jul-90  15:07:26
Sb: Wiz Query
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: Bill Brady 70126,267
Bill, I just noticed the file in DL7.  Should answer my query.   Ches.

#: 5260 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Jul-90  17:57:29
Sb: #4930-WIZ Query
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336
Well, I'll be durned, I bought a 1100FD also... & also to replace the m100!
Procomm eh? I've been using COM-AND, not very happily. On the job, Cecile
finally got wise, I am now our (one & only) product manager. (Our drivers
licence testing system). Mebbe I can keep somebody from running off with the
thing. We are doing a show in Baltimore this week. On the Wiz question. You can
edit the autolog file... you should see a #E15 ... the #E defines the break
key, the 15 is control-O. (note 15=decimal) You could also set it on-line & do
a <S>tart new autolog file. etc. Cheez, now I know why I wanted off HST! Sad,
sad. But I understand fully why it happened. I guess our favorite campus is
headed for a downturn. BTW, I *do* like the built in TEXT & Spell checker.

#: 5261 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Jul-90  17:58:03
Sb: #4930-WIZ Query
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336
BTW, got any copy for the MOTD? I could use some.

#: 5262 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Jul-90  17:58:55
Sb: #4957-Wiz Query
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336
Oh, yeah, I sure forgot that one quick... I just uploaded it. Old age eh?

#: 5316 S7/Telecommunications
    18-Jul-90  11:21:43
Sb: #5260-WIZ Query
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
I like the TEXT & Spell check, too, in fact, that's what is keeping me in
DeskMate.  The printer driver for the dot matrix printer is so limited that the
frustration level is off the scale.  I've used PC-Link to register a problem
(they said nobody else complained but they would forward the complaint) and
I've used the voice line to Ft. Worth.  The voice response was an offer to help
me set the printer with BASIC and use the (really dumb) ASCI printer driver!  I
agree on HST - Wonder how Fordyce feels?

#: 5317 S7/Telecommunications
    18-Jul-90  11:24:10
Sb: #5261-WIZ Query
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
Nothing for MOTD.  Sturdy old CoCo just keeps running.  I use it with UltiMusE,
WIZ and DynaStar for music, comm and wp.  I plan to go to Atlanta in October. 
See you there?

#: 5522 S7/Telecommunications
    25-Jul-90  04:02:40
Sb: #5316-#WIZ Query
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)
Well, Don actually became involved after the mirrors were ground. Re the 1100
drivers: have you disassembled the machine far enuf to see if the C: ROM is
replaceable? I wonder if we can drop in the BP150 ROM?
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#: 5555 S7/Telecommunications
    25-Jul-90  19:15:51
Sb: #5522-WIZ Query
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
I'm told the C: drive is an EEROM, but the drivers are on the floppy.  The
story gets more complex, though.  I bought Q&A Write after seeing a comment on
CIS praising its capabilities, and it has no difficulty driving the Epson DMP
(or the LaserJet) with the same drivers that TEXT doesn't work well with. 
So.o.o. I  now suspect that TEXT is the problem - and that is on the C: drive. 
What is a BP150 ROM?  Different topic - I'm using PROCOM with the GSFC business
main frame to use a characteristic known as a dedicated printer with the VT100
emulation.  The VT100 emulation works as a full-screen monitor with Escape code
cursor addressing, but when a special main frame printer program is initiated,
long data sets come in "behind" the monitor in a "dedicated printer" mode.  I
don't understand the details of what I'm saying, but in your VT52 emulation,
did you know about a dedicated printer and provide for it??  Ches.

#: 5523 S7/Telecommunications
    25-Jul-90  04:04:50
Sb: #5317-#WIZ Query
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)
Yes, do you want to got together? (to Atlanta) I was not aware of the date. Do
you have more details? BTW Ted Paul is apparently folding up his clipboard
tent.
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#: 5556 S7/Telecommunications
    25-Jul-90  19:18:21
Sb: #5523-WIZ Query
Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336
To: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
Ruth and I are currently planning to take the train if we can work out schedule
conflicts.  Read message 20839 for Dave Myers deal and 'Fest description.  I
called Dave and got in on the "first 125" deal.  The dates are October 6,7.

#: 5796 S7/Telecommunications
    03-Aug-90  16:50:57
Sb: #5555-WIZ Query
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)
I guess you mean the printer drivers??? If they are on floppy then changing
them would be easier than the C drive. RE: my VT52 emulation: it was just a
mapping of VT52 (screen) codes to OS-9/CoCo codes. VT52 & 100 codes don't sit
well with most printers, so most folks just filter 'em out of the printer
stream. (but I don't).

#: 5797 S7/Telecommunications
    03-Aug-90  16:52:05
Sb: #5556-WIZ Query
Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267
To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X)
Hmmmm Oct may be too soon for me to combine business with pleasure.

#: 5975 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Aug-90  23:32:19
Sb: MUYX BOX
Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451
To:  74030,332
Mark - I work for a Telco. Maybe we need your system. How do I get ordering
info and what does it do? Greg Morse

#: 6092 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Aug-90  10:04:19
Sb: #5975-MUYX BOX
Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332
To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X)
Greg,
 If you work for AT&T in a Digital Central Office, you'll be getting one within
the next year (like it or not). It replaces the "DCO-PNI" and is called "RAPP".
 If not, you'll never see one unless you purchase AT&T DACS frames and your
company arranges to have them and their facilities supported by the AT&T
Network Operations. It's not something we plan to sell, but will be used
internally only. There will be a total of about 300 made.
 FWIW, we passed our soak in the testing lab this past week and go to Beta in
the White Plains, NY Digital Central Office tomorrow (tuesday).
 Mark

#: 6110 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Aug-90  22:32:46
Sb: RAPP
Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451
To:  74030,332
mark - I dont work for AT&T. My telco is a canadian one. we do however have 2
or 3 AT&T DACS's (DACS II's with ver 3 of the s/w I doubt however that from
what you have said we would be buying a "RAPP", but should i ask my AT&T
salesman about it? - Greg
Press <CR> !>

#: 6118 S7/Telecommunications
    14-Aug-90  09:35:04
Sb: #6110-RAPP
Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332
To: Greg Morse 72746,3451
Greg,
 We support DACS II generic 3.2, and will support generic 4.0 (X.25 with
imbedded iu feature) when it is released.
 The RAPP is an interface for these AT&T OSS's: DACS-OSS, FAMAS, DSTS, and AIM.
Your AT&T salesman will likely not know what it (or it's predecessor, the
DCO-PNI) is.
 Mark

#: 6252 S7/Telecommunications
    21-Aug-90  17:53:04
Sb: OSTERM
Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
To: ALL
Does anybody know why the backspace doesn't work on OSTERM ??

#: 6255 S7/Telecommunications
    21-Aug-90  19:36:08
Sb: #6252-OSTERM
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
Works fine for me when I'm using it.  Are you in VT-100 emulation mode? That's
something I have yet to use, and it may do something different--you may have to
use DEL instead of BS.

#: 6323 S7/Telecommunications
    26-Aug-90  11:08:46
Sb: #access help
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: all
I have forgotten how to get to CIS from Nuxiland.  It is something like
71076.76@compuserv.com.  Can anyone help?  - Carl
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#: 6325 S7/Telecommunications
    26-Aug-90  11:49:07
Sb: #6323-#access help
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X)
Carl -
Dead on.... if I were mailing to you, it'd be:
mail 71076.76@compuserve.com
Pete
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#: 6330 S7/Telecommunications
    26-Aug-90  22:12:43
Sb: #6325-access help
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X)
Thanks Pete.  Kid is off to college for the last year and he lost my address
and I wasn't sure.  - Carl

#: 6402 S7/Telecommunications
    30-Aug-90  19:39:21
Sb: #6255-OSTERM
Fm: PHIL SCHERER 71211,2545
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
Hi James--I find I can get a backspace in VT-100 but not in ANSI!!!??

#: 6423 S7/Telecommunications
    31-Aug-90  14:48:33
Sb: #T3 troubles
Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
To: All
I am having trouble with my t3 device.  I have just recently added it to my
bootfile and everytime I try to open a path to it I get a module not found
error.  It is definately in memory and each time I open a path the link counter
increments.  Any ideas anyone?
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#: 6428 S7/Telecommunications
    31-Aug-90  21:40:25
Sb: #6423-#T3 troubles
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
What device driver are you telling it to use?  Perhaps that's what it can't
find.
There is 1 Reply.

#: 6453 S7/Telecommunications
    01-Sep-90  12:27:47
Sb: #6428-#T3 troubles
Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
To: James Jones 76257,562 (X)
I would assume it uses ACIAPAK.  I have that onlong with t2 and t3 in memory.
T2 works just fine.
There is 1 Reply.

#: 6456 S7/Telecommunications
    01-Sep-90  13:48:50
Sb: #6453-#T3 troubles
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X)
Floyd,
Is the T3 you included in your boot file from the original system config disk?
If so, then its set up to use the MODPAK driver with a serial interface
addressed at $FF68 (like a standard T2 device.) MODPAK was written for the
modempak, will work with any 6551 serial port, but is limited to 300 baud.
If you want to use a second serial interface addressed at $FF6C (like a
modified RS232 pak) then use the M1 descriptor, which uses ACIAPAK. The other
option is M2, which uses MODPAK and a serial port addressed at $FF6C, the
standard modempak address. To summarize, the four Tandy serial device
descriptors are:
 device   address   driver
   T2      $FF68    ACIAPAK
   T3      $FF68    MODPAK
   M1      $FF6C    ACIAPAK
   M2      $FF6C    MODPAK
These names are not an OS9 standard, however, and have been implemented in
different ways by different software and hardware vendors.
Bill
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#: 6459 S7/Telecommunications
    01-Sep-90  19:27:07
Sb: #6456-T3 troubles
Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
Ah!  Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Floyd

#: 6565 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Sep-90  03:28:26
Sb: NEW CoCo 3 BBS!!
Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
To: all
      there's a new CoCo 3 BBS now up and running!
      Springwood BBS, running ACBBS modified for 3 message bases (for now)
      FULL access on your FIRST call!
      (614)-228-7371    basically 24 hours / 7 days except when
                        i need the line to call other boards
        please set to 8-N-1 >only< as this software is not as forgiving
        as i'd like it to be.
          "KMA-68!!"
                                 >>>>>S S<<<<<
                                 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
s

#: 6573 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Sep-90  17:08:47
Sb: #Upload Problems
Fm: Rodney Harper 75130,1321
To: All
I am a Librarian on the Aquarium Fish Forums (GO AQUAFORUM & GO AQUADATA). I am
having a problem uploading ASCii files to my Library's.
The problem is that when people using TAPCIS try to read these uploaded files
all they see is the line reading over itself.  Undoubtly TAP does not make a
linefeed at the Carriage Returns.
All of the other staff members using various Term programs from Mac
(NAVIGATOR), Commodore Term (And several other COMMODORE Terminals), Along with
me (OSTERM, and UltimTerm (RS-DOS)), have had no problem reading these files. I
did have the problem with Telstar (OS9).
I am using SSTAR to make the files.  According to one of the SYSOPS, I do not
have a Line Feed and Carriage return at the end of each line, just a <CR>,
therefor, TAPCIS will not administer a LF, and the lines will run all over each
other.
Let me know if you can help, I am desparate to find out what is wrong.
Rodney Harper
DataBase Manager
Aquatic Data Center
GO AQUADATA
ps....Does OSTerm 2.08 strip the Line Feeds ??
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#: 6580 S7/Telecommunications
    07-Sep-90  21:23:37
Sb: #6573-#Upload Problems
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Rodney Harper 75130,1321 (X)
Rodney,
You've got the problem figured out. OSTERM monkeies with the LF's.
Not being a fan of that program I don't know ... but is there an option of
adding linefeeds when you upload? (Some terminal programs do allow for this).
I'll have to fire up my copy and take a look.
Steve
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#: 6601 S7/Telecommunications
    08-Sep-90  13:39:45
Sb: #6580-#Upload Problems
Fm: Rodney Harper 75130,1321
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Have you had a chance to look at your copy of OSTerm ?
I tried turning off the LF Filter, but no JOY, still the same.
I also tried uploading with TELSTAR, and WIZ, No Joy.
I downloaded the STERM.AR that you are using, and am having a hell of time
getting it going.
>>Rod<<
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#: 6602 S7/Telecommunications
    08-Sep-90  15:23:08
Sb: #6601-Upload Problems
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: Rodney Harper 75130,1321 (X)
You'll find that STERM will add linefeeds after C/R's like you want plus it
takes advantage of CIS "sliding window" B-protocol which is very fast since it
doesn't stop between blocks.

#: 6610 S7/Telecommunications
    08-Sep-90  19:34:44
Sb: #6601-Upload Problems
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Rodney Harper 75130,1321 (X)
Rod,
I've left you my phone number in Cmail ...use it if things get to far afield.
:-)
Steve

#: 6625 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Sep-90  13:53:36
Sb: #OS9 Terminals
Fm: Rodney Harper 75130,1321
To: All
Does anyone know of any other OS9 terminal progams for the COCO, that does not
strip linefeeds upon uploading ?  This is besides STERM here in the Library ?
>>Rod<<
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#: 6630 S7/Telecommunications
    09-Sep-90  15:41:28
Sb: #6625-OS9 Terminals
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Rodney Harper 75130,1321 (X)
Hmmm ....
Sterm not doing the job for you, Rod?
Steve

#: 6652 S7/Telecommunications
    10-Sep-90  15:03:08
Sb: Telecom/nullmodem
Fm: Paul Hanke 73467,403
To: All
Has anyone had any experience trying to transfer files via null modem to
another computer using Deskmates  telecom program?  For some reason, an xmodem
transfer does not seem to ge initiated altho when in terminal mode, one
computer's keyboard text appears on the other's monitor.  Is there a special
sequence of commands or other signal needed to start xmodem?  I assume all
parameters are set correctly or else keyboard transfer wouldn't occur, n'est-ce
pas?   -ph-

#: 6770 S7/Telecommunications
    18-Sep-90  17:24:01
Sb: #sterm 1.4
Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
To: all
Does anyone have a copy of STerm 1.4 that could upload it here?  Or perhaps I
missed it?  If anyone has it/knows where it is, please drop me a line.  thx,
   Joseph Cheek
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#: 6776 S7/Telecommunications
    19-Sep-90  05:30:11
Sb: #6770-#sterm 1.4
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 (X)
Joseph,
STERM 1.4 is not released yet.  Version 1.3 is in Lib7 for downloading. 1.4 is
still in the testing stage (sorta) and will be available in the next month or
so.
Mark
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#: 6821 S7/Telecommunications
    20-Sep-90  19:40:49
Sb: #6776-sterm 1.4
Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)
Thank you, Mark.  I will relay that information to my friend.

#: 6787 S7/Telecommunications
    19-Sep-90  18:25:37
Sb: #Initializing modem
Fm: Rodney Harper 75130,1321
To: All
All,
When booting up OS9, is there a way I can send a string to my Modem to
initialize it before running a Term program ?
I would like to put this in the startup file if it is possible.
>>Rod<<
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#: 6788 S7/Telecommunications
    19-Sep-90  18:51:50
Sb: #6787-Initializing modem
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Rodney Harper 75130,1321 (X)
Sure... why not:
 [other startup commands]
 echo ATE0V0Q1S11=50 >/T2
Pete

#: 6790 S7/Telecommunications
    19-Sep-90  19:42:28
Sb: #term help
Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
To: all
        i have just obtained a Multi-Pak and RS-232 Pak and would like to be
able to use OS/9 terminal software, however, i've had no luck in getting either
xcom9 or bbterm to work with them.
        neither one seems to be communicating with the rs-232.  in each case
i've made sure to specify /t2 as the device, and the rs-232 is in slot 1 of the
multi-pak.  i have been able to use the telcom application in the level 1
version of Deskmate, which proves that everything is working, but that 32
column screen just simply won't do.
        any ideas what the problem is?  i have used both xcom9 and bbterm in
the past with the BITBANG.ar driver through the bitbanger, so i doubt its the
programs.
        "KMA-68!!"
                                 >>>>>S S<<<<<
                                 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#: 6794 S7/Telecommunications
    19-Sep-90  20:42:01
Sb: #6790-#term help
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X)
Ed,
The 232pak expect a high  DTR signal before it will listen to anything. Your
modem might be able to do this (dip switch or command) or you could jumper a
cable with 6-8 and 20 hooked together.
What type of modem are you using? Do you see any activity on the light (are
there lights?).
Steve
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#: 6802 S7/Telecommunications
    20-Sep-90  01:42:56
Sb: #6794-term help
Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
        a high DTR signal, Hmmm... forget what that stands for just now,
        data terminal ready i think.
    the only switch on my modem (a Capetronic QT-1200) is to force
    carrier detect on.  no status lights, though i have thought of getting
    one of those units from rat shack that goes in-line and has several
    status lights on it.
    i've been going with the switch in force carrier detect position, i'll
    try it in the normal position.   hopefully i won't have to do any
    jumpering, don't want to have to cut open my new rs-232 cable.
                                Thanks,
        "KMA-68!!"
                                 >>>>>S S<<<<<
                                 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

#: 6811 S7/Telecommunications
    20-Sep-90  15:17:06
Sb: #6790-#term help
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X)
Is it possible that you've patched xcom9 and bbterm to use T1 for the bitbang
driver?
Do you have type (parity) and baud values set properly for T2?
Did you remember to include ACIAPAK and T2 in your boot file?
What are you using for a cable between your modem and the serial port?
Tell us a little more about what you've done, and what happens when it fails
and we should be able to figure out what the problem is.
Bill
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#: 6814 S7/Telecommunications
    20-Sep-90  16:26:19
Sb: #6811-term help
Fm: edward langenback 73510,145
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)
help insert list
    ok, here it is...
        patched xcom9 and bbterm?  no, instead i used the BITBANG.ar
descriptors        and driver when i was using xcom9 and bbterm through the
        bit banger.
        type and parity were set properly
        ACIAPAK and T2 are in the boot file. (i used a fresh copy of the
        system master to boot with)
        the cable is a 6' shielded rs232 cable from radio shack.
        i also installed the jumpers between pins 6, 8, and 20 as
        i was advised in a prievious msg here.
        this setup works fine with BOTH the telcom package in the
        level 1 version of deskmate, AND with Ultimaterm. (am using
        Ultimaterm and the above setup now)
        bbterm starts up normally, but in terminal mode, nothing is echoed
        to the screen, and none of the AT commands give any responce from
        the modem.
        xcom9 also starts normally, but echo's random characters,
        the following is an example....
ff`ff~`Fxf~`@f`f`~~x~``fx`~~xxx`fxfxf`~fxfffff`d~`xxfx>ffx~~fx`x`~~`xx~`f~~xx@f~`f~f``f`fff~ffff>ffff8ffff~xxf~f|~fdf~fffFf~fff
ffDxffDff~8ff
     this looks similar to what i've seen when Ultimaterms baud rate
        was not set correctly, however i got this output after i had
        used XMODE to set the type and baud.  (though i also got the
        same kind of output before using XMODE too)
          thanks for any help...

#: 7114 S7/Telecommunications
    02-Oct-90  00:04:17
Sb: #Thanks
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X)
  The problem I'm having isn't with the linefeeds. I'm a section leader
(assistant SysOP) on another forum of CIS. When I access the SysOP area I can
only upload and download using B-protocol or MODEM7 (like in Easyplex). Telstar
won't use these protocols. What is MODEM7? I guess as Mike said I will need to
change my terminal program. Not being very knowledgable in OS9 I don't look
forward to making changes.
Thanks, Butch Mooney
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#: 7217 S7/Telecommunications
    05-Oct-90  23:27:16
Sb: #7114-#Thanks
Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
modem7 is an early version of xmodem. they should be compatible. since modem7
was designed to exchg files it does not (usually) mess about with the contents
of the data stream. since os9 uses a single CR as a newline while the rest of
the world uses a cr/lf pair the display of files on a bbs often does not work.
either the bbs or os9 must convert cr to cr/lf at some point. in a straight
upload (read etc) this is done. but in xmodem both ends leave the contents
alone. I dont have your original message but the problem you described did
sound like a line-feed problem. if it was then xcom9 gives you the option of
converting cr to cr/lf even in xmodem mode. <greg morse>
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#: 7225 S7/Telecommunications
    06-Oct-90  07:29:06
Sb: #7217-Thanks
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X)
 Thank you very much for the information. The strange things is Telstar does
the samething. I can do a CR or CRLF in or out or both directions. That is why
I don't think it was a linefeed problem.
Butch

#: 7120 S7/Telecommunications
    02-Oct-90  04:45:06
Sb: #Thanks
Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
MODEM7 is a very OLD term for Xmodem. I'm sure you'll discover (if you haven't
already) that Telstar will work in that mode but if it doesn't add linefeeds it
won't help much. Like Greg said too, Xcom9, available here, will do that trick.
Another thing you might consider is to look in the Libs here for a utility to
make a copy of the file and add line feeds to it offline. Lotsa ways to skin a
cat.
Welcome to sysop heaven. <grin>
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#: 7122 S7/Telecommunications
    02-Oct-90  09:10:18
Sb: #7120-#Thanks
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X)
 Thanks for the information. It is very helpful. Learning about sysop heaven
(grin) and OS9 at the same time is a little to much. (frown) If I wasn't for
the people here in this forum I don't know what I would do. The service doesn't
know a thing about OS9 so I would be in the dark.
Butch
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#: 7146 S7/Telecommunications
    03-Oct-90  07:38:00
Sb: #7122-#Thanks
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Butch, just curious .... where are you sysoping these days?
Steve
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#: 7153 S7/Telecommunications
    03-Oct-90  10:32:29
Sb: #7146-Thanks
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
 Hi Steve,
 I'm at the Horse Section of the PETS Forum. New as of Feb. this year.
Butch

#: 7291 S7/Telecommunications
    11-Oct-90  20:19:02
Sb: #uucp utility
Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720
To: all
Greeting-
     I just uploaded one of my utilities that was not done in time to make it
with the rest of the uucp package.  it is called uutry and works simmilar to
the unix program of the same name. It kills tsmon on the correct port then
starts uucico then restarts tsmon after uucico is done with the call.  I use it
out of cron to automate my calls to other sites.  It runs setuid to root to
allow any user to force a poll to a remote machine.  I gave it that feature so
Suzanne could force polls to my Sun at work.
    BTW if anyone in the New York metro area needs a uucp feed I would be happy
to oblige.  wa3yre has 2 good network connections.
     On another note if anyone in the New York area wants net mail or wants to
get the os9 mailing list, but they do not want uucp they should also contact
me.  I figure no time like the present to see how much this little old 6809 can
handle!
-Brett
uucp...........hombre!marob!davidge!wa3yre!wynkoop direct.........212-942-0846
Login: guest
/ex
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#: 7352 S7/Telecommunications
    14-Oct-90  05:15:05
Sb: #7291-#uucp utility
Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641
To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 (X)
how can I get access to a USENET node. I am in Atlanta and I do not know of any
USENET nodes as of yet.
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#: 7450 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Oct-90  22:12:14
Sb: #7352-uucp utility
Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720
To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X)
~ Greeting-
     I do not know any contacts in your area, but I am sure there are uucp
sites there.  Many companies and Universities run unix and have uucp up and
running.  If you want to call New York I am setting my machine up as a uucp
gateway.
 -Brett
uucp..........hombre!marob!davidge!wa3yre!wynkoop direct........212-942-0846
login: guest

#: 7302 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Oct-90  09:10:09
Sb: #Help modpatch
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: ALL
Hi,
I have never used modpatch before. The Telstar manual suggest making the patch:
modpatch
           1
           aciapak
           c
           383 46 3c
How would I go about doing this?
Thanks,
Butch Mooney
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#: 7303 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Oct-90  09:24:33
Sb: #7302-Help modpatch
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Butch... type "modpatch -?" for a help message.  Also read MODPAT.TXT in Lib 10
here (if it's still around).  However, try this:
Type: modpatch -s    (this means silent mode)
                     (then wait until it's in memory and type:)
      L aciapak      (that links to aciapak module)
      C 0383 46 3c   (that changes byte at offset $383 from $46 to $3C)
      V              (that reverifies aciapak module)
      CTRL-BREAK     ("ESCape"  leaves modpatch like end-of-file)
Now aciapak is changed and reverified, which means you now need to save it back
out to disk.  If you don't have save, look in Lib 9 here I think.
Or: if you are willing to change aciapak on bootup each time (instead of saving
out as above and making a new bootdisk with the patched module), type the above
3 lines (L,C,V lines) into a text file, and you should be able to put "modpatch
filename"  (filename = the text filename) in your Startup file... and it'll be
run each time you boot.
Yell if not clear.  Experiment a bit first and see what happens.

#: 7306 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Oct-90  16:53:25
Sb: #UUCP.AR
Fm: Rodney Harper 75130,1321
To: All
What is UUCP.AR  ??
Is it a Term program ?
>>Rod<<
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#: 7312 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Oct-90  21:46:43
Sb: #7306-UUCP.AR
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: Rodney Harper 75130,1321 (X)
It's not a terminal program.  It's an archive of a collection of programs that
make it possible for computers that use a particular protocol to send one
another files.  Using it, computers running OS-9/6809 Level Two can hook into a
very large collection of systems collectively called USENET.

#: 7321 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Oct-90  05:04:43
Sb: #7306-UUCP.AR
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: Rodney Harper 75130,1321 (X)
Hi Rodney!
uucp is an acronym and stands for Unix to Unix Copy Protocol.  It comes with
Unix/Xenix and now we have it for OS9 and OSK.  The package comprises many
programs allowing one to write, send, receive and read mail and to transfer
files to/from any site similarly equipped throughout the world. Normally,
connections are made to nearby sites (mostly colleges and universities and that
site will transfer to an adjacent site and so forth until the mail/file is
delivered (may take several days or even weeks).
UUCP is not interactive with you terminal.  It is normally invoked as a
background task by 'cron' and proceeds on its merry way executing instructions
you have previously entered.  Also, assuming you leave your computer and modem
on all the time, other sites can call you and pickup/ leave mail and files.
It's really a great package and Mark Griffith deserves acolades galore for his
efforts.  If you decide to try it, there are several of us on the forumn who
use it and will be glad to assist you getting started.  I suggest you pull it
down and read the docs - they tell you much more.
Ed

#: 7311 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Oct-90  19:58:43
Sb: #HELP
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
Hi Kevin,
 Thanks for the help I will give it a try. Let me ask you about one other
problem. I'm using OS9 Level II, Telstar, and DynaStar. Being a section leader
on the Pets Forum I uploaded a announcement. CIS's Manager's Manual says to use
a hard <CR> at the end of each line. That is what I thought I was doing when I
hit the enter key at the end of each line with DynaStar. But not so, the
announcement was not what I wrote. I did the same thing with RS-DOS and Word
Power and the announcement was just as I made it. Why couldn't I do this with
DynaStar? Can I change one of the filters in Telstar to correct this problem?
Thanks, Butch Mooney
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#: 7317 S7/Telecommunications
    12-Oct-90  23:52:14
Sb: #7311-HELP
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 (X)
Butch - Hmmm. Have to find someone using Telstar to answer that.  Yes, the
<ENTER> key should put a hard <CR> in all the editors I know.  Perhaps Telstar
is placing a LF in there also?
Easy way to check: do you have a dump or ded util to look at the file you have
on disk?  Look at the file and see if you see 0D (returns) in there where you
expect them.

#: 7333 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Oct-90  09:56:47
Sb: Thanks
Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)
Hi Kevin,
 You are right Telstar is putting a LF in there. Because that is the way I set
it up. I didn't know enough to turn it off when sending a hard <CR>. I learned
alot of new things today. Just so much to learn. Could not do this without your
help.
Thank you very much,
Butch

#: 7336 S7/Telecommunications
    13-Oct-90  13:18:26
Sb: Conference Uploads ??
Fm: Rodney Harper 75130,1321
To: All
I am seeking help in learning how to upload a lecture into Conference using one
of several OS9 Terminals that I use.  I have been trying just an ASCii dump of
a file to the conference area, (after formatting each line to 40 charaters),
but CIS responded ..> You are typing too fast... Wait 6 seconds before trying
again <... or something along those lines.
The Terminals that I use are:
STERM 1.2
STERM 1.3
OSTERM 2.08
TELSTAR
Has anyone had this problem before ?
Can anyone make a suggestion on how I may be able to do this ?
Thanks.....
Rodney Harper
Conference Coordinator
FISHNET (Aquarium Fish Forums)
GO FISHNET

#: 7363 S7/Telecommunications
    14-Oct-90  18:19:26
Sb: #VT-TERM/ANSI GRAPHICS
Fm: John Ranck 73540,246
To: ALL
        Does anyone know of a terminal program preferably that can run under
Wizor Wiz-Pro but must run under OS9 L-II that can inteert ANSI graphics codes
to the format understood by CC3IO window driver.
                Thank You
                Mike Ranck.
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#: 7385 S7/Telecommunications
    15-Oct-90  13:10:21
Sb: #7363-VT-TERM/ANSI GRAPHICS
Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227
To: John Ranck 73540,246
Mike - there's a coupla ANSI gfx filter programs in Lib 10... I haven't used
them but others have.  Guys??
Look for ANSI*  and see what you find.  ANSIFI.???  maybe?

#: 7365 S7/Telecommunications
    14-Oct-90  21:05:22
Sb: #UUCP frustrations
Fm: Robert A. Larson 75126,723
To: all
FLAME ON.  After spending over an hour transfering UUCP.AR from dl 7, I was
extremly frustrated to find that it was 6809 executable: 100% worthless to me. 
FLAME ON HIGH: If you absolutly MUST distribute binary executeables for one of
the os9 arcitectures, please mark it as such in ALL annoncements of it.  Source
code is much more likely to be usable, fixable, and much less likely to contain
viruses.  (Yes, writing an os9 virus would be quite simple.  If I though it
would get people to distribute source rather than executable, I probably would
write one.)
The self-conflicting copyright notice (apperently based on the gnu public
licence, with modifacations trying to make it so the author can make money on
the code) makes it so I can't even give what I've downloaded away without
having source code, which is not included and apperently only given to those
who ask special for it.  Even if I do get ahold of the sources for the 6809 and
modify them to work on my 68k machine, I can't give, sell, or otherwise
distribute the changes without more special permission.
I'm getting pretty desperate for a uucp I can use on my qt20x and include with
my distribution of C-news and rn.  If I can't get the needed special
dispensation, it looks like I'll have to port one of the freely available uucps
myself.  The main reason I haven't started doing so already is hearing about
this one and not wanting to duplicate effort.
If I sound frustrated, I am.  I did get a good nights sleep before composing
this message in order to calm myself down a bit.
(compuserve sets a new record low for kermit througput: 561 cps on a 2400 baud
modem.  I thought my link to a machine over an overloaded eathernet that likes
to take breaks of several minutes of no data transfered was horid, I regularly
get 1500-2000 cps on it.  I get in excess of 3000 cps on a mnp5 connection to a
fast machine.)
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#: 7368 S7/Telecommunications
    14-Oct-90  21:59:56
Sb: #7365-UUCP frustrations
Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524
To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723 (X)
The author of what ytyou downloaded is working on an OSK version of UUCP. Does
your qt20x run OSK?

#: 7370 S7/Telecommunications
    14-Oct-90  23:48:17
Sb: #7365-UUCP frustrations
Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153
To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723 (X)
Ummm... Robert
  The header for UUCP.AR states in no fewer than 3 places that it's for
OS-9/6809.  I don't see what the problem is???
 ...Jim

#: 7374 S7/Telecommunications
    15-Oct-90  04:12:53
Sb: #7365-#UUCP frustrations
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723 (X)
Lester!
UUCP for OS9/68000 is available in Library 12 - TOP4 and TOP5.  This port was
done by the guys in Munich.  No source, though.
Ed
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#: 7375 S7/Telecommunications
    15-Oct-90  04:13:53
Sb: #7374-UUCP frustrations
Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312
To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X)
Robert!
Sorry about the salutation - wrong name.  My apologies.
Ed

#: 7384 S7/Telecommunications
    15-Oct-90  13:08:40
Sb: #7365-#UUCP frustrations
Fm: William Phelps 75100,265
To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723 (X)
Even if there were OS-9 viruses circulating, how would a virus get into
UUCP.AR?  The only people who can alter the file are Mark and the Sysops. 
Don't you trust THEM?
Do you think that authors should be able to profit from their hard work?
If you really need QT specific software call FHL.
How did you measure the speed of file transfers from CompuServe?  The figures
you give as "slow" exceed the maximum possible.
William
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#: 7429 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Oct-90  18:05:22
Sb: #7384-#UUCP frustrations
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: William Phelps 75100,265 (X)
Hi William! Sorry you could not make it to the Fest. The IMS team was looking
forward to meeting one of our most revered customers!
Mark sends along his howdies.
Paul
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#: 7533 S7/Telecommunications
    18-Oct-90  18:43:53
Sb: #7429-#UUCP frustrations
Fm: William Phelps 75100,265
To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X)
Well if the next Fest is not on the third or fourth weekend of the month, I
might be able to make it.  What is your estimated shipping date now?
William
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#: 7583 S7/Telecommunications
    19-Oct-90  23:38:49
Sb: #7533-UUCP frustrations
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: William Phelps 75100,265 (X)
William,
You know, I was so busy this week, that I did not check with the lab in Texas!
Concerning the FCC testing, that is -weeks, but not much longer, my friend. Boy, it's gonna feel good to see those
circuit boards rolling off the line.
The manufacturer has his production design boards in hand and is programming
his pick-and-place machines.
Take care.
Paul

#: 7428 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Oct-90  18:03:41
Sb: #7365-UUCP frustrations
Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004
To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723 (X)
UUCP for the MM/1 is working now under OSK.
Paul

#: 7431 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Oct-90  18:22:02
Sb: #7365-UUCP frustrations
Fm: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565
To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723 (X)
Robert:
I STRONGLY suggest that you download STERM from the OSK database here.  It uses
the Compuserve B protocol for downloading.  I believe that the B protocol is a
streaming type protocol that does not require an ACK after every block
transmitted, this greatly increases throughput.  When I download files from CIS
this way, the RD light on my modem stays on solid until the file is completely
downloaded.
-J

#: 7598 S7/Telecommunications
    20-Oct-90  10:01:15
Sb: #7365-UUCP frustrations
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Robert A. Larson 75126,723 (X)
Robert,
I'm sorry you found the UUCP port not to your liking.  I believe I did mention
a couple times that this was the OS9/6809 port.
As for the lack of source code....I thought about this a lot and decided that
the need to keep some control over the source and the port outweighed the
desire to upload them.  I think this is resonable given the year I spent doing
the port and the time and money spent testing, talking to beta testers, etc. As
I mentioned in the docs, anyone wanting the source code just needs to drop me a
line and include $5 for the cost of the disk and postage.  If that still
doesn't seem resonable to you, then I can send it to you with no charge if you
will send me a letter with your address.
I also question your mentioning viruses.  Since I nor anyone I know has seen or
heard of an OS9 virus, I think it kinda unresonable for you to suggest that I
might put one in the upload.  If I were that smart, I'd have figured out a way
to do it in less than a 250K file (grin).
In any case, I do not expect this port to pass the detailed scrutiney (sp?) of
a UseNet guru or any other experienced net hacker.  It is as simple an
implementation as I thought possible while still giving as much functionality
as possible.  It does work and hopefully will bring OS9 users that much closer
to the real world.
If you have any more questions, please feel free to call me since I am no
longer available on CIS (at least for the next few months).
Mark

#: 7397 S7/Telecommunications
    15-Oct-90  22:43:30
Sb: #UUCP in DL7
Fm: Steve Sampson N5OWK 75136,626
To:  76070,41
I'm curious what you used for the basic port, and if the DL7 upload contains
source also?  As on old uucp tinkerer who never gets time for it anymore :-)
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#: 7599 S7/Telecommunications
    20-Oct-90  10:01:22
Sb: #7397-#UUCP in DL7
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Steve Sampson N5OWK 75136,626 (X)
Steve,
I used your Flex port as a starting point and changed much and added much. I
must say, I would never have been able to do it if you had not posted your
version of DCP by Richard Lamb.  I found his coding style (or lack thereof) to
be very hard to follow, while your code was simple, elegant, and much easier to
trace through.  Thanks.
I would be happy to send you the sources if you'll just drop me a note. My
address is:
    Mark Griffith
    953 W. Wisconsin Ave.
    DeLand  FL  32720
        or
    Mark Griffith
    Stetson University
    Campus Box 8347
    DeLand  FL  32720
I can do 720K or 360K CoCo disks, MM/1 or Atari ST OSK 3.5 disks.
Mark
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#: 7602 S7/Telecommunications
    20-Oct-90  11:38:01
Sb: #7599-UUCP in DL7
Fm: Steve Sampson 75136,626
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)
Well I'm glad someone found an use for it.  I never did get my send-expect
dialer code right.  I had it half-ass on my flex-box, but it only worked long
distance (timing) and not local.  You probably fixed a ton of bent code to get
where you are :-)

#: 7435 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Oct-90  18:59:27
Sb: #UUCP
Fm: KEVIN JOHNSON 76475,1106
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41
Although I have not yet been able to use UUCP, for reasons following, I am very
impressed with your Docs. They are such a pleasure to read. Are you a language
buff? I have searched all over and have been unable to locate Cron or Go, can
you advise where they are? Do you have a net directory showing a node for area
705, specifically Orillia, Ontario, Canada?
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#: 7447 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Oct-90  21:41:25
Sb: #7435-UUCP
Fm: James Jones 76257,562
To: KEVIN JOHNSON 76475,1106
Mark is, for a while, not going to be on CIS--I fear that your message to him
will have scrolled off by the time he returns.  Give DL9 a shot in search of
cron and go.
Probably the simplest way to find out what systems one might connect to is by
inquiring at local universities or companies that are likely to use Unix. Past
that, I don't know of anyone in particular in that area.

#: 7449 S7/Telecommunications
    16-Oct-90  22:10:02
Sb: uucp info
Fm: Brett Wyn