#: 3229 S4/MIDI and Music 02-May-90 17:38:51 Sb: Music Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Larry Miner 73577,256 Larry, nice job on Entertainer and Elephant Walk (I'll look in the big job later). A few changes in instruments and they sound real good on my Yamaha. Thanks. Ches. Press !> #: 4270 S4/MIDI and Music 11-Jun-90 20:59:28 Sb: #MORE MUSIC Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: 73577,256 Do you have any more UME files?? Can you get any more? There is 1 Reply. #: 4350 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Jun-90 21:16:07 Sb: #4270-MORE MUSIC Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 Have you downloaded all .ume files of interest here? Then have you tried the Delphi service? Lots of .ume there too, most of it different from those here. What version of UltiMusE are you using? #: 4378 S4/MIDI and Music 14-Jun-90 22:18:40 Sb: #4350-MORE MUSIC Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 I am useing the latest VER What do you have? #: 4439 S4/MIDI and Music 17-Jun-90 11:54:40 Sb: #4378-#MORE MUSIC Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X) 4.6.1 is the latest one that's out there. 4.6.2 is beiong tested by one person. I'm the author so I'm slogging thru what could be called 4.6.3. If you have 4.6.1 you're not missing much, or even 4.6.0. 4.6.0 is quite a bit more powerful than 4.5.0 tho. --mike k There is 1 Reply. #: 4478 S4/MIDI and Music 18-Jun-90 22:13:53 Sb: #4439-#MORE MUSIC Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X) I have 4.6.0 how do i get an upgrade? There is 1 Reply. #: 4567 S4/MIDI and Music 22-Jun-90 21:59:58 Sb: #4478-#MORE MUSIC Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X) Well you'd have to call or write Ed at 2nd City SW and beg a bit. Actually, 4.6.1 isn't that much an improvment over 4.6.0. It does fix bugs in Part Copy and saving file on exit, so if you use Part Copy a lot, you have grounds for asking. A much more serious upgrade is coming soon. --mike k There is 1 Reply. #: 4577 S4/MIDI and Music 23-Jun-90 08:43:47 Sb: #4567-MORE MUSIC Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 How soon will that be? #: 4533 S4/MIDI and Music 20-Jun-90 23:10:34 Sb: #Midi Fm: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527 To: 72467,1111 (X) Mike, I have UltimuseIII ver. 4.5.0. It was ordered around the first of the year. Can I put in a request here for an upgrade to 4.6.2 or so? I hear it has midi clock controlling capabilities. thanks... Fenton Hunt There is 1 Reply. #: 4568 S4/MIDI and Music 22-Jun-90 22:03:13 Sb: #4533-Midi Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527 (X) OK Fenton, I'll put in your request for you, since 4.6.x is a big improvement over 4.5.x. Your MIDI clock, plus lots more Tools (like Part Copy) and a point-n-shoot FIle System. Also Percussion Clef, very importatn standard for everyone to start using. --mike k #: 4699 S4/MIDI and Music 27-Jun-90 20:35:58 Sb: #4577-#MORE MUSIC Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X) For the automatic screen printing, crescendo, and articulation, we're shooting for this October. Articulation is working now. Then there's the Lyra trtanslator, and transposing instrument clefs. Recording hand play is in the works, but no time frame for that yet. There is 1 Reply. #: 4701 S4/MIDI and Music 27-Jun-90 20:55:29 Sb: #4699-#MORE MUSIC Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X) Thank Let me know when anything happends! OK? There is 1 Reply. #: 4839 S4/MIDI and Music 02-Jul-90 19:56:10 Sb: #4701-MORE MUSIC Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X) OK. Try to bug me around September to remind me. #: 4815 S4/MIDI and Music 01-Jul-90 22:52:34 Sb: #midi help Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: 76703,4230 (X) Can you somehow make a program that I can play my keyboard and record it in my computer? Not sampleing But making the out of the midi keyboard into the coco. There is 1 Reply. #: 4830 S4/MIDI and Music 02-Jul-90 12:26:27 Sb: #4815-#midi help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X) Everett - What you're describing is a SEQUENCER program. Lester Hands has one called CM3 that's about all there is for the coco market. Sequencing is tough to do in multitasking systems because the music must be acurately timestamped as to when notes arrive, and must correspondingly be played back without undue delay. Anyway, talk to Lester. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 4841 S4/MIDI and Music 02-Jul-90 20:03:09 Sb: #4830-#midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Pete & Everett -- I am working (on the side) on a MIDI recording program under OS9, but can't say when or how well it will work. I do know that the technique does not "mess" with anything in the system, tho you shouldn't have other tasks running in the background except in I/O wait state. --mike k There is 1 Reply. #: 4848 S4/MIDI and Music 03-Jul-90 01:21:00 Sb: #4841-#midi help Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X) Mike : what kind of timestamp or other data would you wish in a MIDI driver, btw? In other words, how would you arrange to get/play data? There are 2 Replies. #: 5047 S4/MIDI and Music 10-Jul-90 20:12:45 Sb: #4848-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X) Well, each received event should have the time of its reception included. An event may be 1 to 3 bytes, tho it may not be the driver's job to parse that out. There are various ways to cut down on the extra data of time stamps -- like using only the low 8 bits, and throwing in special byte whenever the time carries over. For play, you should be able to give a timestamp followed by a whole bunch of MIDI data bytes; when the actual time becomes equal to that timestamp, all those bytes get blasted out as fast as possible. THis allows buffering and lets the play program get ahead of the job, so as to have a reserve of real time to fall back on when things get tuff. There are some pretty simple ways to do things in both directions. I think the driver per se should do it simply, with more efficient encodings handled by the application. I'll have to think about this some more. Keep bugging me. Best to handle this via my Bitnet address. Thanks for asking, mike k #: 5051 S4/MIDI and Music 10-Jul-90 20:22:20 Sb: #4848-#midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X) Kev, want to add that time resolution of 10 ms (or 1/100 sec) is probably good enough. 5 ms or even less might be better, but I hear 10 ms is waht best suits the MM/1. Umuise3 on the Coco3 gets by on 16.7 ms, but sxome folks can notice it, or so they say. Actually it's when recording hand play that you want the most resolution -- playback you can fudge a lot better. --mike k There are 2 Replies. #: 5054 S4/MIDI and Music 10-Jul-90 21:28:10 Sb: #5051-midi help Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Okay... I think Jon Cluts once told me that 1/96th second was good for MIDI. That sound about right? #: 5085 S4/MIDI and Music 11-Jul-90 16:31:02 Sb: #5051-midi help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Maximum data rate is 31200 bps, or 3120 bytes/sec. That equates to a resolution at highest density of .00032 sec (320 usec). Assuming a note on/off event is your prime concern, they typically float around in 3 byte packages [note on & ch # | note # | velocity], that would add up to just under 1 millisecond. Also, if several note-on's were sent as a stream, a 'running status' in the MIDI spec allows for only one NOTE-ON/CH# byte, followed by any number of two byte tuples of NOTE#|VELOCITY. Theoretical worst case for resolution on the timer there would be 640 usec or so. Pete #: 5169 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Jul-90 23:04:20 Sb: #4830-#midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Pete, just had to butt in here! CM3 is now old stuff; I've updated the program for the CoCo 3 with 512K memory (required). 16 tracks, 16000 notes, 240 ticks per beat, and more. (Sorry, I just couldn't help myself...) There is 1 Reply. #: 5192 S4/MIDI and Music 14-Jul-90 12:38:40 Sb: #5169-#midi help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Okay Lester.... get of yer laurels (grin): what have you got slated for the MM/1? Pete] There is 1 Reply. #: 5235 S4/MIDI and Music 15-Jul-90 17:25:50 Sb: #5192-#midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) MM/1? To be honest, I hardly know what it is. I presume it is one of the successors to the CoCo 3. At this point I doubt that I will pursue any new computers. Feeding and watering the ones I have is expensive enough! There is 1 Reply. #: 5238 S4/MIDI and Music 15-Jul-90 20:35:10 Sb: #5235-midi help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Lester - A browse through DL15 will help you out. In a nutshell, its a hopped up OSK machine, hires graphics, MIDI hardware, lotsa serial ports, and all the software (including C Compiler) is bundled. Pete #: 5170 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Jul-90 23:07:52 Sb: #5054-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X) I think Jon was referring to 1/96th of a beat (no 1/96th of a second). Obviously if you increase the tempo, then the actual time decreases. I have a number of musician friends who swear they can easily tell the difference between 96 and 192 ticks per beat! #: 5200 S4/MIDI and Music 14-Jul-90 15:58:59 Sb: UME Version? Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, I just downloaded two UME files that sound pretty nice, but they are in ver 6 and I only have ver 5, (sob!). Of course I was able to use them, but what am I missing in 6? Should I bug 2nd City or wait a bit for more developments? Will you be in Atlanta in October? Hope to see you there. Regards, Ches. #: 5393 S4/MIDI and Music 20-Jul-90 23:33:26 Sb: #5054-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X) Kev, 1/96th is great for playback. For recording, I'd like 1/200 or even better, tho will take what the hardware can give me (probably 1/100? Have to talk to Kev Pease on that timer capabilities). --mike k #: 5396 S4/MIDI and Music 20-Jul-90 23:48:53 Sb: #5085-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 Oh yes, I knew all those numbers. No sense having more than 1 millisec resolution. But the more resolution available on recording, the easier it is for algorithms that try to figure out what rhythm the player intended. If quantized down to 1/60th or so, good guessing may become harder. Anyway, for playing 1/100th is plenty fine for me. #: 5398 S4/MIDI and Music 21-Jul-90 00:03:09 Sb: #5085-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 Pete, and Lester -- one more thing to throw into the discussion -some synths are a lot slower than others to respond to MIDI messages and get their stinkin' notes turned on. Roland MT32 is noticeably slow at times, even to my classical ears (my worst critic was an acid "house music" fan). And Keyboard Mag current issue really badmouthed some new synth in a review for being too slow. I bet Lester's friends who can tell 96 from 192 ticks/beat are listening to drum machines, which I hope are built to more exacting standards than some of the newer synths. --mike k #: 5399 S4/MIDI and Music 21-Jul-90 00:06:35 Sb: #5235-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Lester, are you feeding any MSDOGs lately? How is that Lyra port to PCs doing? Ready to release? The MM/1 is strictly OS9, but with much faster grafix and everything else than the Cocos. --mike knudsen #: 5397 S4/MIDI and Music 20-Jul-90 23:56:48 Sb: #5200-UME Version? Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 Hi CHes! The only difference between Levels 5 and 6 scores is the "MIDI Channel Hop", whereby any part can change its channel assignmnet on the fly, just like an instrument. THis lets one part play the sax on the Yamaha and later the flute on the Casio, etc. I doubt either of those scores actually used the feature, but they might. It also lets you "borrow" percussion voices for "real music" and vice versa even if you have only one synth. However, version 4.6.0 and 4.6.1 do have a great poiont-n-shoot file loading system, and...OOPS, I think 4.5.x does NOT have Percussion Staves, is that right? I HOPE uploads are using those, so yes, you should call Ed at 2nd City and ask for 4.6.1 or 4.6.2 maybe. He isn't sending them out exc ept to those who ask. I hope to be in Atlanta -- Ed certainly will be, and if I can't make it he will demo the daylights out of Umuse3 (he has done some SERIOIUS mousing lately and plays two sytns at once). I have 4.7.0 with Articulations (staccato, marcato, etc) but it isn't "released" yet, tho I think it's ready to roll. --mike k. #: 5418 S4/MIDI and Music 21-Jul-90 13:24:17 Sb: #5397-UME Version? Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Thanks for the info, Mike. Regards, Ches. #: 5518 S4/MIDI and Music 24-Jul-90 23:01:29 Sb: #5238-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 The fact that all the software is included is really amazing. Makes me wonder if it is because Microware said "here it is--do what you can with it". Sounds like a wonder machine! #: 5519 S4/MIDI and Music 24-Jul-90 23:05:15 Sb: #5399-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Tsk, tsk, Mike! Yeah, my dogs are well fed. Incidentally, the dogs are also doing a much better job of making my time worth while! Perhaps not as elegant as the MM/1 but my AT is supported by a wealth of software. And yes, PC-Lyra has been out for almost 8 months now. Hope to get some advertising going soon. How come I don't see anything in the latest Rainbow for Second City Software? A friend of mine even said that he tried calling them and got a message saying that the number was disconnected! Are you going full steam on the MM/1? Sounds like a dream machine. I just wish that it had been released 5 years ago. Life might be very different now. Lester. #: 5520 S4/MIDI and Music 24-Jul-90 23:08:51 Sb: #5398-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 No, Mike. The friends who can tell the difference between 96 and 192 ticks per beat were doing it with stock synths. But I heartily agree with you, that some synths are very sloppy when it comes to responding quickly to MIDI input. Press !> #: 5541 S4/MIDI and Music 25-Jul-90 10:11:19 Sb: #5518-#midi help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Lester - Yup. I just received the manuals the other day. So much that we tried to add to OS9/6809 is already there in OS9/68000. The books appear to be pretty good, and it looks like a pretty nice development environment. You'll weaken (grin). Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 5562 S4/MIDI and Music 25-Jul-90 20:48:38 Sb: #5541-#midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Hmmm. I don't doubt that the MM/1 is wonderful. Do the makers have super distribution channels so that they can sell a zillion? It takes a lot of users to really support and get the ball rolling when it comes to software development. Lester There is 1 Reply. #: 5577 S4/MIDI and Music 26-Jul-90 09:25:59 Sb: #5562-midi help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Lester - Paul Ward will have to respond to their logistics position... dunno myself. I think it's priced well and feature packed enough so that many former (and current) os9 cocoists will nab one. Pete #: 5688 S4/MIDI and Music 29-Jul-90 14:41:15 Sb: Ultimusic Bit banger Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 To: 72467,1111 Michael, I believe I notice slight hesitations when using the bit banger with rythmn accompniment. Have you noticed it. Would it be better to use a midi pak? Also, would like to be able to turn on rythm and off. next update? Also would like to switch banks with midi events, I have a Casio 670. Hope you include those in your next updates. Excellent program, I hope you are making enough money to afford to update it. Huggs Denise PS: if a midi pak would enhance the playing quality/ rythmn quality, is ther plans I can get to build one? I can solder and build small projects ok. #: 5774 S4/MIDI and Music 02-Aug-90 00:12:28 Sb: #5562-#midi help Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Lester, Well, our sales director has just started lining up franchises and dealers. We project that the most populous states will be excellent representation by late spring. Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 5902 S4/MIDI and Music 06-Aug-90 08:46:23 Sb: #5774-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 Sounds like you're on the right track! Hope you sell bunches! The computer world needs an alternative to OS/2... #: 5800 S4/MIDI and Music 03-Aug-90 17:10:11 Sb: #Ultimusic Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 To: Jim Buck Hi Jim, liked your songs you uploaded for Ultimusic. How old are you and what church do you go to? Some of your songs are in our hymnal at our church. I belong to First Church of God, in Owosso, Mi. It is based in Anderson, Indianna. Would you like to swap songs generated by Ultimusic? I bought the comercial version and like it a lot. I am a semi-professional organist and keyboardist. Bye, Denise There is 1 Reply. #: 5822 S4/MIDI and Music 04-Aug-90 10:23:21 Sb: #5800-Ultimusic Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 Denise, Thanks for your UME scores. Clair de Lune is beautiful. Just AS I Am is nice, but so embellished that I had difficulty hearing the melodic thread. Was it done as an accompaniment for a solo? Keep it up!! Ches. #: 5933 S4/MIDI and Music 08-Aug-90 11:35:07 Sb: #help Fm: Gilles Conte 73357,1103 To: [F] All hello, I have a d-10 roland keyboard, and i will like to know if there a program in os9 that will let me build a librairy of sound with my different bank I got. Also is there any sequencer recorder in os9 ? i think its not possible is it right?? thanks There is 1 Reply. #: 5934 S4/MIDI and Music 08-Aug-90 15:05:43 Sb: #5933-#help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Gilles Conte 73357,1103 (X) Gilles - I also have a Roland D10 (among other synths, samplers, and rack toys). There were some MIDI tools written in OS9/C, but most were for the Casio CZ-101/1000 family. Almost all the other stuff is written for the RSDOS environment. Biggest reason is that MIDI requires a 31250 baud port, and a computer and buffering scheme that is capable of keeping up with it (at least in bursts). Because of interrupt latency, and time slicing, OS9/6809 really cannot do the job unless a) You have a smart interface card that does processing and buffering or b) You cheat out OS9, and lock your process into the saddle. There are lots of programs for the IBM, Atari, and MAC that are wonderful for use with the D10. If you were motivated, writing one under OS9 might not be too weird... as I said, Richard Johnson wrote a Casio Ed/Lib using technique b) above. Good luck. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 5935 S4/MIDI and Music 08-Aug-90 15:50:51 Sb: #5934-help Fm: Gilles Conte 73357,1103 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Well, thanks anyway for the answer. But I dont think that Im good enough in OS9 for doing that sort of program myself. But I was thinking that I can use a program for the Mt32 like mt32 Panel to do the job what do you think about it?? Thanks Pete for your help!!! Gildo #: 6019 S4/MIDI and Music 12-Aug-90 11:36:40 Sb: #5519-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Yeah, you can just *buy* SW for MS-doggies. I think you said you could get ready-made grafix routines to do the screen stuff for you on the PCs. You writing in C, or assembler? Which grafix modes (EGA, CGA) do you support? Second City pulled their ads during the slow summer months to save money. Lots of folks got the wrong idea tho, so I don't think Ed will ever do that again! I never had any trouble with the phone numbers, tho. I'm about to get an MM/1. Sheesh, I just wish the Coco3 had come out a year or two sooner for that matter. Anyway, the chips in the MM/1 weren't even around till a year ago. It's mostly OS9 that's kept me from going to Atari or Amiga or even the DOGs in the last couple years. No I can have my cake & eat it too. (that's Now I can...). Say, didn't Speech Systems go to Amiga? Is Rich Parry still in biz? --mike k #: 6020 S4/MIDI and Music 12-Aug-90 11:38:50 Sb: #5520-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Glad you agree. My MT-32 takes a while to get its ducks in a row if you hit it with a few patch changes just before a big chord. Seems synths are going the way of computers -- get more and more complex, and slower and slower asnd hard to figure out. --mike k #: 6105 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Aug-90 20:55:03 Sb: #5902-midi help Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Lester, Thanks for the vote of confidence! Sure, OS/2 is a drag. Windows 3.0 DOES go some way to relieve that problem, and it may end up supplanting DOS altogether, becoming an interface/OS sort of like MacOS is an interface/OS. Paul Naturally, we have something MUCH BETTER than Windows 3.0 in the works. #: 6024 S4/MIDI and Music 12-Aug-90 11:55:51 Sb: #5688-#Ultimusic Bit banger Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X) Hi Denise. Sometimes I wonder if the rhythms are right-on myself. Yes, others have asked for a rhtym on-off inclusion, but I haven't done it yet -- have added other nice goodies instead, byut will work on it. MIDI Events also in the work queue, but not much yet. I can't tell a real big difference between the MIDI Pak and serial cable, tho in theory the Pak should be better. Especially if you use the /MIDI driver mode. Lots of folks have diuscussed building MIDI paks out of RS232 or Modem packs, and some have built from scratch, but I don't have a ready set of plans. You might first see what kind of deal you can get from Rulaford Research or Intercomp Sound in Rochester, NY on the Pak without any software. Best wishes, mike k There is 1 Reply. #: 6032 S4/MIDI and Music 12-Aug-90 15:31:00 Sb: #6024-Ultimusic Bit banger Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, It just sounds like the rhythm track is slowing to stay in sync with the microprocessor. If you know what I mean. Slight hesatations (very slight) but I notice them. Kind of like the statement that time sharing through the bit banger dosen't work very well with various programs under os9. It works the best with the Multipak for timesharing. Is this what may be happening when playing midi through the Bit Banger? #: 6025 S4/MIDI and Music 12-Aug-90 12:11:10 Sb: #5933-help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Gilles Conte 73357,1103 (X) There is not now a MIDI recorder in OS9. I used to think it was inmpossible on the Coco3 (without a lot of cheating), but now have an idea how to do it, so am slowly working on it. Absolutely no promises pr schedules, tho. Also doing anything wiht the recorded hand-playing, other than just playing it back, takes some doing too. --mike k #: 6026 S4/MIDI and Music 12-Aug-90 12:13:54 Sb: #5934-help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Pete, there is also an MT32 patch editor called "MTPanel" on here. I DL'ed it a couple years ago and didn't test it much, but it seemed to work. Decent use of 80x24 text windows on the Coco3. To get a patch or sample dump on demand from a synth, you can cheat out OS9 just long enuf to snarf up the data. As opposed to recording hand playing, where you tie up things for minutes at a time. --mike k #: 6159 S4/MIDI and Music 16-Aug-90 07:56:00 Sb: #6019-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, I'm writing in C for my MS-doggie programs. At the moment I'm supporting CGA because it is the most popular. I will be curious to hear how you like the MM/1. Are you going "whole hog" and getting the top of the line? Rich Parry is still around. I think he will be quitting the biz (Amiga games, that is) because he is getting tired of being ripped off. #: 6160 S4/MIDI and Music 16-Aug-90 07:57:34 Sb: #6020-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Yeah, a lot of synths are becoming monsters. But then consider the Proteus/1. I bought one a week ago and am continually amazed by it's wonderful sound and easy interface. Truly a wonder of sensible design! (Is it because it was made in the good ole USA?) #: 6161 S4/MIDI and Music 16-Aug-90 07:58:31 Sb: #6105-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 Oh yes? Something MUCH BETTER than Windows 3.0? I gotta hear about this! When you have something more definite, I am all ears!! #: 6296 S4/MIDI and Music 24-Aug-90 19:15:54 Sb: #Ultimusic Justasiam Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 To: 73016,1336 (X) Ches, The melody is in the first staff. It has to be set at a higher volume than the rest. I have it on a seperate channel on my synth. I found out that when I played the piece all on one channel, it sounded rather bland. Sorry about the delay in answering your message. I have been very busy lately. Huggs, Denise There is 1 Reply. #: 6301 S4/MIDI and Music 24-Aug-90 20:53:33 Sb: #6296-Ultimusic Justasiam Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 Thanks for response, Denise. I'm going to try the level change as soon as I get off CIS. Thanks. Ches. #: 6484 S4/MIDI and Music 03-Sep-90 13:25:30 Sb: #midi with level 1 Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: ALL I have a friend who uses a CoCo2 with a midi synth. He is working on a custom midi driver for OS9 Level 1 and asked me if I could find a driver program for him. He is not a CIS subscriber. I downloaded midisf.asm from the midi lib for him. He has assembled it and made some attempts to use it. But when he writes to the midi device he gets an error 203, Illegal mode. He has verified that the "write enable" flag in the device descriptor is set. Any one got any ideas on what his problem is? Thanks, Zack There is 1 Reply. #: 6529 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Sep-90 11:59:45 Sb: #6484-midi with level 1 Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack - Let's see a dump of the 1st 20 bytes of the descriptor.... is the mode byte set to $FF? Pete #: 6534 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Sep-90 22:35:01 Sb: #6032-Ultimusic Bit banger Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 Well, it does take Umuse3 more compute time to send the bytes thru the bitbanger than thru a MIDI Pak, tho I don't think it's that much difference (I could be wrong here, tho have tried to measure the rates on an oscilloscope). Also my play routine compensates its Sleep timings for the number of bytes sent. BUt it sounds like the correction isn't enough (or maybe too much. so the rhythm sometimes "rushes" the beat?). --mike k #: 6536 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Sep-90 22:44:14 Sb: #6159-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Hi Les. I guess by now EGA is getting pretty widespread, tho CGA is close to the Coco 3 in 16-color mode. I'm also curious to see how I'll like the MM/1, grin -- an-tiss-a-pay-shun.... Nice to hear Rich Parry is still kicking, tho I guess anyone dealing in games should expect to sell one copy for every 10 in use. I hear the PC world is pretty fast & loose too -- how does it look so far re PC-Lyra? Everyone says that Coco-OS9ers are pretty good about piracy -don't know for sure either way, tho. --mike k PS: What model PC, and what C compiler do you use? So many damned choices in that world....? #: 6537 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Sep-90 22:46:01 Sb: #6160-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Yeah, I've heard good things about the Proteus, tho not about its "operating system" being easier. Yes, they realaly call it that now in Keyboard Mag! --mike k #: 6704 S4/MIDI and Music 15-Sep-90 10:11:50 Sb: #6536-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, yes EGA and VGA are pretty much what everybody has now. I think that the CoCo 3 would be better than CGA but not quite as good as EGA (same number of colors but not as high resolution). Still don't have an MM/1? I had thought they would be delivering by now! Yes, I would imagine that OS9ers are pretty good about piracy. I think those who use OS9 are a pretty dedicated bunch. I am using an AT clone (that I assembled from 'this and that') with 4 meg RAM. I have both the Microsoft C compiler and the Turbo C++ compiler. The Turbo C++ wins hands down over the Microsoft product when it comes to ease of use. How's Ultimuse comming? I still don't see anything in Rainbow from Second City Software. Lester #: 6975 S4/MIDI and Music 25-Sep-90 22:34:53 Sb: #6704-#midi help Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Lester, Well, we COULD be delivering MM/1s by now, but we have FCC approval to worry our heads about. Things look good in that domain though, and we should be in real good shape by the fest. Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 7053 S4/MIDI and Music 29-Sep-90 12:39:42 Sb: #6975-#midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) I got the info about the MM/1s in the mail recently--looks great! I will be watching your progress with considerable interest! There is 1 Reply. #: 7083 S4/MIDI and Music 30-Sep-90 19:29:33 Sb: #7053-#midi help Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Lester, Thanks for the kind words! Do keep up with us! And give a call, if you like! We have a big MIDI contingent gearing up. Paul "Contingent" means buch of eager developers. There is 1 Reply. #: 7284 S4/MIDI and Music 11-Oct-90 00:54:15 Sb: #7083-#midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul, a "bunch" of eager MIDI developers? Sounds rather interesting. I am beginning to see that the IBM MIDI market is already pretty saturated and just might be interested in jumping on your bandwagon. What is up? There is 1 Reply. #: 7315 S4/MIDI and Music 12-Oct-90 23:28:30 Sb: #7284-#midi help Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Lester, Actually, the IBM MIDI market is NOT saturated if you discount all the MEDIOCRE stuff they have!! I suggest you give a call to the DC IMS office at 202 232 4246 sometime. We can talk MIDI then! Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 7344 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Oct-90 15:20:10 Sb: #7315-#midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul, what hours for the DC IMS office (and what do those letters stand for)? I suppose one person's definition of mediocre differs from another. I see a lot of expensive sequencers ($100-500) out there. I've tried selling a PC version of Lyra and everyone expects to have real time recording and score printing as well for only $49.95. An impossible situation for a developer! There are 2 Replies. #: 7357 S4/MIDI and Music 14-Oct-90 09:58:34 Sb: #7344-#midi help Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Lester, Nice to see you back! IMS stands for Interactive Media Systems ... with their offices in Washington, DC. Hope you and Paul can get together on a project. Your talents would be a welcomed addition to the growing list of software developers for the MM/1. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 7372 S4/MIDI and Music 14-Oct-90 23:50:29 Sb: #7357-midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Hey Steve! I haven't been gone--just not a whole lot of activity on this sig until lately! I talked to Paul yesterday and things sound interesting. I'm keeping my ears to the ground! #: 7423 S4/MIDI and Music 16-Oct-90 17:27:20 Sb: #7344-#midi help Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Lester, Well, if they want real time recording, give it to them and charge! Mayabe you could have a $49.95 version that omits that feature, but have a Lyra Plus that you can get as a trade-in for $49.95 extra. IMS stands for Interactive Media Systems, Inc. Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 7446 S4/MIDI and Music 16-Oct-90 21:19:36 Sb: #7423-#midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Paul, good idea (about making real time recording an extra)! The only problem is that the Lyra file format does not lend itself well to that type of data. Lyra expects a highly structured single note per track format. While you could force fit real time stuff to that format, the result would be difficult to edit. There is 1 Reply. #: 7482 S4/MIDI and Music 17-Oct-90 21:47:05 Sb: #7446-midi help Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Lester, Well, I certainly did not anticipate that such a design would be EASY! It sounds as though your Lyra format is pretty clean and simple, and real time recording is NEVER that! Paul #: 7329 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Oct-90 09:45:14 Sb: #UME 4.7 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, I'm having trouble getting UMusE 4.7 to work. I have put chars.img and allUm3.img in the SYS directory and have put all the CMDS files (except the MIDI.dddr) in /h0/CMDS. When I start UME, I get the opening screen and the main menu screen. I can build a score. When I try to read or save a score or view a non-UME directory, I get a "Diread: Can't malloc enuf!" message. I normally use Multi-Vue, but I also tried it with Multi-Vue disabled. With the Multi-Vue approach and UME working (sort of), I used Random/os9 command to check os9 status. There were 16 blocks free, but I got the Can't malloc enuf! message when I tried to view a directory or read a file. What is different with my setup? What is malloc? A module allocation command? What should I do to get 4.7 working? Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 7339 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Oct-90 14:27:51 Sb: #7329-#UME 4.7 Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) malloc() is the C library function that allocates memory. I bet what's running out is the routine that reads and sorts the names of the files in the current directory for display. I haven't tried running Ultimuse under MV, but I have used it (4.7, the one sold in Atlanta) with no trouble. I don't know why you're having trouble. Do you have any of the UME modules merged? I don't think they should be in this version. There is 1 Reply. #: 7342 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Oct-90 15:11:06 Sb: #7339-UME 4.7 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Thanks for the reply - I pretty well convinced myself the problem is not related to MV since I got the same problem working out of the UME disk directly. I suspect the problem may be caused by a fully packed shell module because I have jammed a bunch of things there. Still seems strange though - no problem with any other software (including UME 4.5). No, I haven't merged any of the UME modules, although the thought did occur. The availability of almost 200k of memory after UME is operating and encountering a lack of memory is puzzling. Note it didn't give an error 207. I'm inclined to believe it is a program bug, but it must be an obscure one. Any other ideas? Ches. #: 7331 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Oct-90 09:48:05 Sb: #Lyra Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Les, I picked up a CoCo Midi Interface at the Atlanta CoCoFest and it appears to work fine. At that Fest, I learned you have a version of Lyra for hard disk and RBG. My latest version is 2.60 and I gather the latest for floppy is 2.7? and for hard disk is 2.8?. What features are in these versions that are not in 2.60? Please give me upgrade information. Back to the Midi Interface, am I correct that Lyra recognizes when the interface is plugged in and sends the music through that instead of the bit banger? It would be nice to compare the sound first with one interface and then with the other, but either my synthesizer doesn't like quick disconnect/reconnect or Lyra is keeping only one output live. Thanks and best regards. Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 7345 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Oct-90 15:24:05 Sb: #7331-#Lyra Query Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, I thought you had migrated to Ultimuse! Version 2.72 of Lyra will do proper autodecting of what interface is available (2.61 was supposed to but I didn't get it quite right). If you want to force on interface or the other, then use the last command on the MIDI menu to toggle what you want. This version also has a "Page play" command which will play a page of music, stop, update the display, and continue. There is a very brief pause between pages but the command is rather useful in finding mistakes and following your music as it plays. Version 2.82 has RGB Dos capability as well as a few changes (like being able to back up in dialog boxes). There is 1 Reply. #: 7350 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Oct-90 22:13:41 Sb: #7345-#Lyra Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Hey, Les, I didn't migrate, I expanded! I like UME but I like LYRA too. Many of my favorite piano rags are in my LYRA library. And UME doesn't yet have event transmission capability so I can set up the synth for the various configurations I want that differ for each piece. I would like to upgrade to 2.82. I'm using the OWLware BASIC to load LYRA from the hard disk and would like to load the pieces from the hard disk too. Now, tell me here or eMail about the upgrade. Thanks - Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 7371 S4/MIDI and Music 14-Oct-90 23:49:04 Sb: #7350-Lyra Query Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, you can get the upgrade from me for $10 (2.82, that is). A little more than usual so I can pay the guy who did the HD coding. #: 7356 S4/MIDI and Music 14-Oct-90 07:59:10 Sb: UME Query 2 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, after further experimentation, I suspect UME 4.7 may be trying to use memory that is already in use in my system. When I start os9 lv2 from the original disk and stay in floppy-land, the high end is at $7DFF and UME 4.7 loads up and works fine. When I start os9 lv2 with my OWL hard disk, the high end of memory is at $7BFF and UME 4.7 loads up and starts but gives me the can't malloc enuf stuff. Did you make the os9 sin and directly address to memory?? Ches. #: 7805 S4/MIDI and Music 27-Oct-90 20:20:05 Sb: #7329-UME 4.7 Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, and EVERYONE, ahere is another victim of ShellPlus version 2.1 -- you have to to patch it before you can run any BIG applications under Sell+ 2.1. The patch to Shell+ is: location $130F grom $1F to 01 or maybe 00. Where "grom" means "from". (Do NOT buy a Star 2400 baud modem; they barely work at 300, and don't like OSTerm at all!). --mike k PS: Please, everyone spread the word about Shell+ and its patch -- you can't run KBCom or MVCanvas from it either without the fix. #: 7806 S4/MIDI and Music 27-Oct-90 20:22:50 Sb: #7339-UME 4.7 Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) James, he got bit by the infamous Sell+ 2.1 well-meaning "feature" that tries to run everything #8K. Not good for C programs, especially malloc() users. See my other reply for the patch. Yes, CHes and I confirmed on the voice phone that he was using Shell+. Thanks for the vote of confidence there -- mike k. #: 7807 S4/MIDI and Music 27-Oct-90 20:28:59 Sb: #7356-#UME Query 2 Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) No sin on my part, just some well-meaning liberal attempts by Shell+ to give more memory initially, thus meaning that Umuse3 can't allocate (malloc) more later. Surprised that the hard drive makes any difference. There is a bug in C's malloc() routine tho, or maybe in Level 2. If you view the "g?" menu you will get "oil spill" on the top of the screen, which will then infect every other menu afterwards. I fixed this, but till we get the next version out, do this -Always visit the MIDI Modes or Levels sub-menu as soon as you get to the Score Screen the first time you start up Umuse -- this "trains" the memory allocater not to make mistakes with that huge g? menu. --mike k. There are 2 Replies. #: 7825 S4/MIDI and Music 28-Oct-90 05:27:19 Sb: #7807-UME Query 2 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Thanks for info, Mike. I'll get back to you with results. Ches. #: 7827 S4/MIDI and Music 28-Oct-90 08:36:47 Sb: #7807-UME Query 2 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, I am now a happy UME'er again! One wrinkle slowed me down; I was using shell+ v2.0 not v2.1 because I'd never got around to changing to the latest version. So after poking around in various archive disks, I finally found vers 2.1 which does indeed have $1F at $130F. Changed to 01, remerged a new shell, etc. etc. and now all is working fine. Thanks for the help!! Kevin D. if you are "listening", how about a short tutorial on what this problem is with shell+? Regards, Ches. P.S. to Mike - haven't seen the "oil spill" yet, but am ready for it. chl #: 7808 S4/MIDI and Music 27-Oct-90 20:36:37 Sb: #7344-#midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) I know the feeling, Lester -- everyone asks whether UltiMusE can record and print finsihed scores, too! I lose some sales since it doesn't record, tho the score printing is pretty decent. I expect recording to be practical on the MM/1. Regards, mike k. PS: What did you price the PC version of Lyra at? There is 1 Reply. #: 7947 S4/MIDI and Music 02-Nov-90 23:24:16 Sb: #7808-#midi help Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Are you nearing a finished version of UMUSE for the MM/1 yet? I would suspect that your file format lends itself rather well to recording! The PC version of Lyra is priced at $49.95. There is 1 Reply. #: 7950 S4/MIDI and Music 03-Nov-90 01:51:14 Sb: #7947-midi help Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 I think that the really interesting part about a recording Umuse would be the part that either infers or makes it easy for the user to indicate what parts of the played notes correspond to the musical control structures that Umuse supports--it couldn't do exact matching because of darned near unavoidable differences between repetitions (I don't think I could play identically each time through :-), and even apart from that, wouldn't it be nice to have something recognize for you that "aside from playing this sequence in measure n differently, the stuff is the same, and I should use small notes to display the second version"? I would think that internally that would be just like 1st - nth endings, but without backing up./ex #: 7846 S4/MIDI and Music 28-Oct-90 16:36:50 Sb: Beatles UME Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, now that I've been able to start playing with my new toys, I began listening to the Beatles disk from the Fest. Is the Ed Hathaway that moused the tunes on that disk the Ed of 2nd City? Anyway, please pass on that Michelle isn't finished...still needs some notes and a 1st/2nd ending at measure 60. Ches. #: 7918 S4/MIDI and Music 30-Oct-90 17:06:05 Sb: Orch-90 CC Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: All Are there drivers for the Orch-90 Stereo Paks to be used under Lvl II? Are there hardware mods required for the Paks? Thanks, Lee #: 7932 S4/MIDI and Music 01-Nov-90 06:05:21 Sb: #MIDI Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Lester Sands 70135,430 (X) Les, I have a TX81Z and have downloaded Bill Jackson's EDITOR.BAS with related files. I am using a Rulaford MIDI.PAK and enjoying the TX81Z with both LYRA and UltiMusE. Am I correct in believing his editor should download through the MIDI cable? I have been unsuccessful in performing a download from the TX81Z. Is the MIDI.PAK not compatible with his EDITOR or TXDUMP code? Any advice or guidance would be appreciated. I have installed the newer version of LYRA you sent me and it is working fine from floppy disks. I am using OWLWare's disk basic which is apparently quite different from B&B's RGB Basic, so I suspect one of my soon-to-make purchases will be RGB to explore its mysteries. Thanks again for your fine products and support to computer music. Ches There is 1 Reply. #: 7948 S4/MIDI and Music 02-Nov-90 23:27:33 Sb: #7932-#MIDI Query Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, I don't have a TX81Z but am aware of Bill's editor for it. As far as I know, the MIDI pak from Rulaford should work without difficulty with it. The only other MIDI interfaces that won't work for sure are the Colorchestra and the Intercomp interface. Glad to hear that the newer Lyra is working well for you! Welcome to the wonderful computer merry go round that keeps you buying new products just to keep up with the times! There is 1 Reply. #: 7955 S4/MIDI and Music 03-Nov-90 06:10:39 Sb: #7948-MIDI Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Thanks for response, Les. #: 7933 S4/MIDI and Music 01-Nov-90 06:07:46 Sb: MIDI Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Bill Jackson 72737,2254 Bill, I have a TX81Z and have downloaded your EDITOR.BAS with related files. I am using a Rulaford MIDI.PAK and enjoying the TX81Z with both LYRA and UltiMusE. Am I correct in believing your editor should download through the MIDI cable? I have been unsuccessful in performing a download from the TX81Z. Is the MIDI.PAK not compatible with your EDITOR or TXDUMP code? Any advice or guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, Ches. #: 7938 S4/MIDI and Music 01-Nov-90 21:15:16 Sb: Upload Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) Wayne, I have just uploaded a joystick hi-lo resolution modification suggestion to DL4. Please review and see if diagram is legible. You have my proxy to change DL or delay display of file until document is made better. Your comments are most welcome. Ches. #: 8016 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 12:49:31 Sb: #7933-#MIDI Query Fm: bill jackson 72737,2254 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, I'm not exactly sure what problems you are having. Do you mean that you cannot capture a dump from the TX81z or do you mean that you cannot load something into the tx81. I've defected into the MSDOS world, so I don't get around here much anymore, but give me a more detailed description, and I'll try to help you out. I never had any trouble going either way to or from the TX and the Coco. What exactly happens when you try. Later, Bill There are 2 Replies. #: 8020 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 13:24:28 Sb: #8016-MIDI Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: bill jackson 72737,2254 (X) Bill, the program works fine as far as getting menus etc., but when I follow the instructions to download a voice from the TX81, the screen shows a Receiving data message and apparently locks up. I tried the Receive Dump by triggering the Cassette dump from the TX81, but saw no sign of action on the CoCo side. Reminder, I'm using the Rulaford MIDI.PAK. Lester Sands responded to my query to him saying he believed it to be compatible with your editor, but since he doesn't have a Tx81, he wasn't sure. Your instructions to dump a voice caused me to set the Tx81 in Play mode, set to a voice, select receive dump, and inc or dec one notch to a new voice. Doing that appears to cause nothing to happen. What am I missing?? All my effort so far is to receive from the Tx81; once I can receive, then I'll explore sending to the synth. Your help is greatly appreciated. Ches. #: 8026 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 16:20:54 Sb: #8016-#MIDI Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: bill jackson 72737,2254 (X) Bill, I'm embarassed to admit my goof, but just maybe someone else will benefit. I thought the cable was bidirectional, but a trip to the TX81 book straightened that out. With two cables connected between the synth and the MIDI.PAK, all works as advertised. Thanks for the response and please don't laugh too hard. Regards, Ches. There are 2 Replies. #: 8031 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 18:32:23 Sb: #8026-#MIDI Query Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches - Yup - midi is 'simplex'... which creates a bear of a networking problem if you have more than one device. I have a _few_, and have two automated MIDI patchbays (DMS MX-8 and an Akai MEP-30), as well as an outboard 4-1 merger (DMS Funnel), multiple devices that merge (Octapad, Fadermaster, and Lake Butler MIDIgator), and still use some homemade outboard routing switches. Welcome to the black hole ($$)... Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 8036 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 20:41:41 Sb: #8031-MIDI Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) The obvious simplex nature of the beast is what makes my error so embarassing. Tsk. Black hole comment is most timely considering my current debate with the treasurer on how to improve the music quality. Thanks for the comment. Ches. #: 8041 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 23:02:24 Sb: #8026-#MIDI Query Fm: bill jackson 72737,2254 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, No problem, I've done much, much worse myself. Glad the thing works ok for you. Leave my your address and I'll send you the source listing if I can find it. Bill There is 1 Reply. #: 8044 S4/MIDI and Music 06-Nov-90 06:43:56 Sb: #8041-#MIDI Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: bill jackson 72737,2254 (X) Bill, my address is 3406 Notre Dame Street, Hyattsville, MD 20783. Thanks, Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 8084 S4/MIDI and Music 08-Nov-90 12:36:24 Sb: #8044-#MIDI Query Fm: bill jackson 72737,2254 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, I am sending you a disk with the source and also the latest version I have of the Editor, which corrects a few bugs that popped up. However, I never did around to fully debugging the error messages, so that part is still flakey -- just don't make any mistakes!!!. I used this version all the time and never had any problems with it. The disk is a 40 track disk, so If you don't have a drive formatted for 40 tracks, you should copy these files over to one of your disks. If you write anything to this disk with a 35-track drive, you'll destroy it, but you can read from it with no problem. You'll have to copy the files one at at time, as you won't be able to backup from a 40T to a 35T drive. Enjoy, and let me know if you have any problems. The source code is from EDTASM, so if you don't have that, you'll have to get a program to strip the tab codes from the source so you can read it. There is such a program in the Coco database here, authored by Mike Ward. Good luck, Bill There is 1 Reply. #: 8087 S4/MIDI and Music 09-Nov-90 07:09:02 Sb: #8084-MIDI Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: bill jackson 72737,2254 (X) Bill, Thanks much. 40 tracks no problem; I know examination of the source will prove interesting and I look forward to it. I will put some of my TX81Z tunes on the disk and sent it back. Thanks. Ches. #: 8017 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 12:56:42 Sb: #7933-#MIDI Query Fm: bill jackson 72737,2254 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, I just read your querry to Lester and I wonder this. If you're trying to use the Editor with something besides standard RS disk basic, that might be the source of your troubles. In order not to conflict with the 80 column screen, I had to move the MidiPack driver to a low memory location. This could easily cause some conflicts with OWL ware or someother basic. Let me know if this is the problem. I'll be happy to send you a copy of the source for the mididriver (It's basicaly the one Lester wrote) and you can dink around with it if you want. Bill There is 1 Reply. #: 8021 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 13:28:50 Sb: #8017-MIDI Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: bill jackson 72737,2254 (X) It could be memory conflict, I suppose. I'm using a Disto controller that lets me use the original RS BASIC, OWLWare's Winchester Basic or the Disto Basic. Same results in all three, if I remember correctly. I'll check, tho, and let you know. I'll also try to find out what OWL uses. And, yes, I'd like the driver source - perhaps here or thru electronic mail as you prefer. Thanks again for the response. Have you tried UltiMusE? Ches. #: 8027 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 16:34:03 Sb: #UltiMusE V.4.7 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X) Mike, I've now used the artics a bit, and the part-copy. Thank you; those are most helpful additions. The percussion staff doesn't help me with my TX81Z; what drum machines or tone generators have you had experience with that would work well with the percussion staff? I just picked up a flyer on the Roland D-110 which appears to be a synth that has at least as much capability as the Yamaha TX81Z plus a percussion section that works with the added staff. I wonder what I could get for my TX81Z; or maybe I should use them both for the better sounds from the TX (if any) plus the D-110. A clerk at a nearby music store recommends the Alesis HR16 as a good drum machine compatible with the new percussion staff. Any comments?? Ches. There are 2 Replies. #: 8033 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 18:38:18 Sb: #8027-#UltiMusE V.4.7 Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches - You can pickup used Alesis HR-16's in the $250 range (check the MIDI FORUM.. GO MIDI). Also, in LA, new D-110's are going for $375, and used ones are in the Recycler for as low as $300. They are a great machine, and I'd push you in that direction. For $50-100 more than the HR-16, you get a synth assortment AND reasonable drums sounds. Also, the D-110 is the 'LA' technology (Linear Additive), whereas the TX81z is FM. Both are nice in the arsenal, and you can NEVER have too much polyphony (voices). I'm a long time guitar player, but my synth rack includes: Roland D10, Roland S-330 sampler, Kurzweil 1000PX, Yamaha TX-7, and a Roland R-5 (drums). Don't get me started on F/X units, mixers, gadgets, or my guitar stuff! (grin)... Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 8037 S4/MIDI and Music 05-Nov-90 20:43:55 Sb: #8033-#UltiMusE V.4.7 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Now that's really helpful - Thanks for the opinion. I was leaning in the D-110 direction but wasn't sure how much of the flyer was accurate and how much was puffery. Thanks again. Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 8076 S4/MIDI and Music 08-Nov-90 00:23:47 Sb: #8037-#UltiMusE V.4.7 Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) I agree -- $300 for a used D-110 is a steal! Ches, just to make sure you know -- the persuccion staff in Umuse3 really does nothing that a regular staff couldn't do. It sends out "note" numbers. Its advantages are that you can input percussion parts more easily, but most import, it makes for STANDARD interchange between different synths and drum machines, none of which map the same percussion sounds to the same "notes." Anyway, use the hand keyboard test I mentioned before to check out anything you want to use a percussion sounds. BTW, the percs on the Roland MT-32 (precursor of 110 and such) sound really GREAT. Full and clear. Sampled, in essence. There is 1 Reply. #: 8081 S4/MIDI and Music 08-Nov-90 06:38:04 Sb: #8076-UltiMusE V.4.7 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X) Thanks, Mike, for all the info. I will digest it, look around and settle on a new acquisition. I greatly appreciate your guidance. Ches. #: 8074 S4/MIDI and Music 07-Nov-90 23:59:22 Sb: #8027-UltiMusE V.4.7 Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) CHes, to expand on my porivate email answers -I don't know much about the TX81Z, except it's worth hanging onto for other sounds. The synths I've played percussion on are the Casio MT240, Yammie PSS480, and Roland MT-32. All use one channle for percussion, and put different "instruments" for different note "pitches." Maybe the TX81Z has only "tuned" percussion isnstruments, each of which can play a whole scale of notes, and eats up a whole channel per instrument, just like regular instruments. If so, the Perc Clef won't help there. Test the HR16 or any other synth in the store: Hook a MIDI keyboard's output to its input. You should be able to hit all the various perc instruments by hitting keys on the keyboard, without using any "splits" or other tricks. If so, it will work with Umuse3 and its Perc Staff. Glad you like the new features, heaven knows I do! --mike k #: 8066 S4/MIDI and Music 07-Nov-90 23:14:54 Sb: #7827-UME Query 2 Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) CHes, I now have version 4.7.1 which is oil-spill proofed forever -I wrote my onw malloc() routine to beat OS9 bug. I could explain why Shell+ causes the problems, but it takes too long at 300 Baud. Basically, C programs don't like to be handed extra memory, they'd rather go out and request it themselves. In fact, any extra memory you give them at birtth (Shell+ effectively does a #8K with every command) deducts from the memory they can request later and use -- so Umuse can't read in disk directories to work with files. --mike k #: 8067 S4/MIDI and Music 07-Nov-90 23:17:38 Sb: #7846-Beatles UME Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Yes, the very same Ed. Ya might say he doesn't sell any music editor he doesn't use himself! In fact, he's my major Beta tester, grin. Ed's been a Beatles freak sicne Day One and has become really mean with a mouse. Also knows a PSS-480 upside down and bassackwards. Can get feedback guitar and who knows what else. We'll await Michelle, ma Belle -- mike k #: 8073 S4/MIDI and Music 07-Nov-90 23:52:41 Sb: #7947-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 (X) Well Les, I'm a ways from anything on the MM/1 that I'd let out of the house. My file format does keep all the voices time-merged together, which may help in recording. Real power is in my routines for converting radnom tick durations to notes, which have been in Umuse since 1986, but have yet to be unleashed on hand-played stuff. $50 is cheap for a PC program that's any good. Sorry to hear it hasn't sold well, if that's what you meant to say earlier. I guess PCloners are used to walking into stores and buying their stuff, njnot being trained to mail-order like us CocoNuts, grin. Best, mike k. #: 8075 S4/MIDI and Music 08-Nov-90 00:07:38 Sb: #7950-midi help Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) James, the stuff you're talking about is along the lines of an Artificial INtelligence project, which does make it interesting, tho a bit much for a Coco3 and the C language. Playing "identically" is aided thru a standard hack called "quantization", where you can reduce everything to 16th notes or larger by throwing out time deltas smaller than 32nd or 64ths, etc. More basic problem is getting your played notes into the right parts-keyboard music is so anarchistic, with no limit on the number or identity or continuity of voices, that it's a wonder what the $500+ programs for Macs can do. --mike k #: 8126 S4/MIDI and Music 11-Nov-90 21:19:05 Sb: TX81Z Editor Change Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Bill Jackson 72737,2254 (X) Bill, There is an error of omission in the Disk Save portion of the TX81Z Editor program. The following segment is corrected in a way that works; however, you may wish to modify in a different way. Lines 3592 and 3595 have been added. Lines 3630 and 3640 have been deleted and line 3620 has been truncated. Regards, Ches. 3540 REM *********************DISK SAVE******************************** 3550 GOSUB 2430:GOSUB 3870:LOCATE 20,23:PRINT"SAVE UNDER VOICE NAME? (Y/N) "; 3560 GOSUB 580:IF P$<>"Y" AND P$<>"N" THEN 3560 3570 FI$="":FOR Z=0 TO 7:IF NM$(Z)="0" THEN FI$=FI$+"O": GOTO 3590 3571 IF NM$(Z)="." OR NM$(Z)="/" OR NM$(Z)=":" THEN FI$=FI$+"*":GOTO3590 3580 FI$=FI$+NM$(Z) 3590 NEXT 3592 IF P$="Y" THEN 3600 3595 GOSUB 3870:LOCATE 20,23:PRINT"ENTER NEW FILE NAME ";:GOSUB 580 3597 FI$=P$ 3600 GOSUB 3870:LOCATE 20,23: PRINT "ENTER DRIVE #";: GOSUB 580 3610 IF P$<"0" OR P$>"3" THEN 3600 3620 FI$=FI$+"/SGL:"+P$ 3650 N=256*PEEK(BS)+PEEK(BS+1):N = N+BF 3660 POKE &HFFD8,0:SAVEM FI$,BF,N,N:POKE &HFFD9,0 3670 RETURN #: 8127 S4/MIDI and Music 11-Nov-90 21:24:17 Sb: #UltiMusE Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X) Mike, UltiMusE continues to fascinate me! The latest discovery is that I've been wasting time with rolled chords and grace notes. I didn't know all I had to do was to put a short rest or a short note in front of the existing long note and UME would fix it up. I had been laboriously putting in proper rests and tied notes to create the roll or the note after the grace note. Marvelous program that UME. Thanks also for the electronic mail info. Your latest received; I have a lead on a MT-32 that I may own in a few days. Thanks for your guidance. Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 8301 S4/MIDI and Music 18-Nov-90 17:53:17 Sb: #8127-UltiMusE Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Glad you found that out, CHes, grin! Still have to think to put grace notes after another note, tho, I think -someday I might add the ability to "chip" off the end of a note as well as the beginning. Say, I hope you do (a) read random parts of the manual over again sometimes just for fun -- never know what you might have missed 1st time, and lots of things might make for sense now. And (b) fool around with the mouse and punch thru all the buttons and sub-menus. One of these days some user is going to really surpise me with some capability I never dreamed was there (I don't get to do much mousing myself, but Ed Hathaway does). Keep those uploads coming. I'm putting up some scores (rock) and a new Jukebox tonite. --mike k #: 8128 S4/MIDI and Music 11-Nov-90 22:05:00 Sb: #TX81Z Editor Change2 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Bill Jackson 72737,2254 (X) Bill, correction to previous message: can't delete 3630,3640 due to other references. Similarly, can't truncate 3620. Also note added line 3597. Maybe references to line 3630 in 4130, 7100 and 7120 can be changed to refer to line 3595 and then delete 3630,3640 and truncate 3620. Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 8141 S4/MIDI and Music 12-Nov-90 11:08:52 Sb: #8128-#TX81Z Editor Change2 Fm: bill jackson 72737,2254 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches I believe those errors have been fixed on the copy of the program I sent you. . I nenever got around to re-uploading it. Feel fee to do so if you want. I lack the ability to do that anymore. Have fun, Bill There is 1 Reply. #: 8173 S4/MIDI and Music 13-Nov-90 10:21:20 Sb: #8141-TX81Z Editor Change2 Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: bill jackson 72737,2254 (X) OK, Bill. Thanks - Ches. #: 8182 S4/MIDI and Music 14-Nov-90 08:27:09 Sb: #Query Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Bill Jackson 72737,2254 (X) Bill, the disk arrived, has been read, and files stored on my hard disk. I'm looking forward to studying the dump source. I know you said you had migrated to the MSDOS world (tsk!); can you still play either LYRA or UME files? Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 8272 S4/MIDI and Music 17-Nov-90 09:50:09 Sb: #8182-Query Fm: bill jackson 72737,2254 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, Nope, but thanks anyway. Have fun! Bill #: 8230 S4/MIDI and Music 16-Nov-90 07:52:26 Sb: #MIDI File Format Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 (X) Mike, have you considered adding MFF input/output capability to UME? There appears to be a good bit of activity on the MIDI forum with tunes in that format. Regards, Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 8303 S4/MIDI and Music 18-Nov-90 17:59:19 Sb: #8230-#MIDI File Format Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Yes, I've thought about it, and have a well-marked-up copy of the MFF (Std MIDI FIle Format (?)) doc I got over email. After the Lyra converter, MM/1 version, append/merge, recording, ... yes, I do want toe ability to "play" into an MFF file, then the Messy Dogs and Apple poliushers can enjoy it, grin. There is 1 Reply. #: 8319 S4/MIDI and Music 19-Nov-90 05:52:05 Sb: #8303-MIDI File Format Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, Thanks for providing so much pleasure (UME) and please accept encouragement for continuing your efforts. Regards, Ches. #: 8231 S4/MIDI and Music 16-Nov-90 07:54:22 Sb: #MIDI File Format Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Lester Sands 70135,430 (X) Les, have you considered providing a MIDI File Format (MFF) cability to LYRA? Looks like quite a bit of activity in the MIDI forum with tunes in that format. Regards, Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 8275 S4/MIDI and Music 17-Nov-90 14:59:29 Sb: #8231-#MIDI File Format Fm: Lester Hands 70135,430 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, Lyra has MIDI file format support with the PC version! There are 2 Replies. #: 8276 S4/MIDI and Music 17-Nov-90 15:04:33 Sb: #8275-MIDI File Format Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Mike commented 'tother day on this hobby being kinda like boating. You know, a boat is a hole in the water surrounded by wood into which you throw money. Well, I have suspected this electronic wall of mine has a marked similarity to that aspect of boating. I'll think about your comment - I don't think I want to build a PC music equivalent to the Coco beauty, at least right now. Highest Regards, Ches. #: 8277 S4/MIDI and Music 17-Nov-90 15:12:38 Sb: #8275-MIDI File Format Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Lester Hands 70135,430 Wait a minute, maybe I'm not thinking this thing through. Does LYRA-PC write a file compatible with LYRA-CoCo? So that I could download a MFF through a PC into LYRA-PC, then write it out in CoCo LYRA format and run it through PCDOS into the CoCo?? That would be a new window I'd be real interested in. Ches. #: 8282 S4/MIDI and Music 17-Nov-90 23:37:28 Sb: #Synth patches Fm: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527 To: Midi experts I have been looking in the MIDI Forum for Roland D10 tone patches and have downloaded some. I thought that I could pick out the beginning of the system exclusive (F041 Hex) block within their format and trim off the rest. Is there any patch editors (or whatever there called) for OS9 or cocodos that are compatable with some of these other files? By the way, I found out that by using Lester Hands CMPRO's Syx Exclusive save of my D10 or U220's patch (or tone parameters) and then transfering that file over to os9, they can be ported to the syth by "copy patch.syx /midi". It works well, and it's nice to have a backup all those patches on hard disk. And I can also load patches on another window for Ultimuse use. Since this Syx Exc block goes from cocodos to OS9 fine, I thought that same formatted block would be somewhere in these other computer downloads. Has anyone out there done any of this stuff? Thanks, Fenton Hunt 75340,3527 There is 1 Reply. #: 8284 S4/MIDI and Music 18-Nov-90 01:07:59 Sb: #8282-#Synth patches Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527 (X) Fenton - I also use a D10 (and a slew of other goodies). Not really sure I understand what you're looking for.... care to restate the question? There are no COCO/OS9 D10 editors that I'm aware of. Lots for the PC and MAC/ATARI/AMIGA though. We do have some for the CZ series, TX81Z, and a few others... Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 8309 S4/MIDI and Music 18-Nov-90 23:09:27 Sb: #8284-#Synth patches Fm: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Pete, What I wanted to do was get some new sounds for my D10 without having rom card. I thought that some of the d10 downloads would have an unmodified syx exclusive message within that download that I could send directly to the D10 and change the tone parameters. I'm not looking forcessarily to edit the D10 directly. Are you pretty heavy into midi? Os9? Do you use CMPro? I'm hooked on Os9, but primarily use Cmpro for midi stuff. I use Ultimuse sometimes, but find Os9 and all the multitasking is a little hard on the timing of the music when there's many notes going at the saOs9 needs a good sequencer program but that may be impossible with 6809 Os9). I will be following the MM1 and it's midi software. thanks ... Fenton There is 1 Reply. #: 8331 S4/MIDI and Music 19-Nov-90 09:45:23 Sb: #8309-Synth patches Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Fenton Hunt 75340,3527 Fenton - I have written and uploaded a few MIDI/COCO/OS9 goodies, but because of the lack of commercial support, went over to a PC/AT type machine a long time ago for the bulk of the MIDI software. If the D10 dumps are straight SYSTEM EXCLUSIVE (the ones I put up there were), then you should be able to send them a byte at a time to the MIDI port. A merge command would be fine, assuming that you have a MIDI driver in your setup. Otherwise, you could probably write a nasty little peek/poke routine that would get the job done using the MIDI pack. As an aside, you can get pretty good deals on sounds from Valhalla. They used to offer a deal where you could buy your bank of choice on a RAM card or $55. That's worth it just to get the RAM card. They also have a cheap ($3 or so) tape that lets you audition all of the available banks before deciding. Back to the SYSEX utility.... you may want to allow a bit of adjustable delay in there as well... some synths can't handle a big dump at full bandwidth. Pete P.S. The Roland D10 dumps are of the format F0[data]F7 F0[data]F7 where each packet is 256 bytes. You may want to check your files with a DUMP utility to ensure that this is what you have. #: 8320 S4/MIDI and Music 19-Nov-90 05:58:34 Sb: MTMIDI Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Glen Hathaway 71446,166 (X) Glen, I just got a Roland MT-32 for a companion to my TX81Z and it is most enjoyable. In browsing dl4, I found your MTMIDI program. Have you done any more work with that? It is most enjoyable and I would like to see more of its controls working. Have you written or do you know of a patch editor for the MT32 like the editor in RSDOS for the TX81 by Bill Jackson? Your MTMIDI is a fine piece of work - Thank you. Regards, Ches. #: 8321 S4/MIDI and Music 19-Nov-90 06:05:11 Sb: MTPanel Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Jonathan Cluts 74126,2736 Jonathan, I just got an MT-32 to supplement the voices from my TX81Z and to add percussion. In BROwsing DL4, I found your MTPanel and am enjoying it. Have you done further work on that program so that some voice patch editing can be done? Thanks for MTPanel, it is a fine piece of work. Regards, Ches. #: 8324 S4/MIDI and Music 19-Nov-90 06:20:31 Sb: #Fallin.UME Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Glen Hathaway 71446,166 (X) Glen, The segment of "Don't Wanna Fall in Love" is great! Thanks. Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 8346 S4/MIDI and Music 19-Nov-90 23:18:22 Sb: #8324-#Fallin.UME Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Hi Ches... Glad ya like it! I've got little pieces of a lot of different songs. I can't seem to stay interested enough to finish any. Maybe if I bought the buyware version of Umuse... Then I wouldn't have to spend most of my mousing time waiting for screen redraws. There is 1 Reply. #: 8351 S4/MIDI and Music 20-Nov-90 10:49:14 Sb: #8346-Fallin.UME Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 Glen, Let me urge you to get the buyware (4.7) version, if for not other reason, than to get the percussion score and the articulation capability. There are many more worthy improvements, but I suspect you'd find these most helpful. Regards, Ches. #: 8403 S4/MIDI and Music 24-Nov-90 22:26:12 Sb: #8351-#Fallin.UME Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Hi Ches... I've been meaning to buy Ultimuse for quite a while now, but never got around to it. Now I've got a MM/1 ordered, so I think I'll wait and see what Mike comes up with for it. I may even write something myself, or finish my MT-32 patch editor - that'd be amazing! I've never finished a project yet... There is 1 Reply. #: 8413 S4/MIDI and Music 25-Nov-90 18:11:15 Sb: #8403-Fallin.UME Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 Glen, it sure would be nice to see more of the controls and voice editing working on your MT-32 editor. Regards, Ches. #: 8442 S4/MIDI and Music 27-Nov-90 08:35:18 Sb: New utils in DL4 Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: MIDI folks I've uploaded a couple of MIDI utilities to DL4. They're basically a capture to disk and a transmit from disk pair of tools. Good for SYSEX dumps, MIDI data stream analysis, even for experimentation (capture, edit files with a binary editor, and transmit them back). The sender routine can handle files > memory. Pete