#: 3636 S13/Atari ST 20-May-90 21:04:59 Sb: M$OS9Lvl query Fm: David George 72240,134 To: ALL I am starting to mess around with OSK on my Atari Mega2 (soon to be 4Meg). What I was wondering was if there is anyway to read the Level of OS9 from the INIT module. There is a spot for it (M$OS9Lvl), but I need to know how to read it from within a program written in C. I am running professional OS9 Ver2.2 David George 72240,134 #: 3829 S13/Atari ST 26-May-90 10:38:08 Sb: #3636-#M$OS9Lvl query Fm: Robert Heller 71450,3432 To: David George 72240,134 (X) David: All you need to do is link to the init module (C library function modlink(), page 4-153 in the C Compiler User Manual), and define a struct based on the structure of the init module (see /dd/sysmods/init.a) and cast the result from modlink("init",0) to a pointer to this structure and then you can access any field in the init module. Modlink() returns the very beginning of the module, so be sure to include a mod_exec struct (or equivelant) in the start of the init module struct definition. Robert There is 1 Reply. #: 3860 S13/Atari ST 27-May-90 10:42:26 Sb: #3829-M$OS9Lvl query Fm: David George 72240,134 To: Robert Heller 71450,3432 Thank you very much. David #: 3837 S13/Atari ST 26-May-90 12:42:51 Sb: #ST in need of OS-9 Fm: - Visitor 73020,413 To: sysop (X) excuse me, but I have an ST and may be interested in running OS-9. Can I get the address of one or more OS-9 dealers? How about this version called PROFESSION 2.2? TKX. There is 1 Reply. #: 3840 S13/Atari ST 26-May-90 12:53:26 Sb: #3837-ST in need of OS-9 Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: - Visitor 73020,413 Visitor, Give me a call at 202/232-4246. I'll set you up. Paul #: 3933 S13/Atari ST 29-May-90 10:46:17 Sb: #3636-#M$OS9Lvl query Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332 To: David George 72240,134 (X) David, The way I have always used memory modules is to have the structure defining its contents separate from the (already exisiting) structure for the module. #include mod_exec *modlink(), *mod_ptr; struct foo *foobar; mod_ptr = modlink("init",0); tmp = (char *) mod_ptr + mod_ptr->_mexec; foobar = (struct foo *) tmp; This will give you a pointer to the data area of the init module, which you can acces with the structure you define after looking at init.a. This wil be more "general" than defining a structure that includes all the module header bologna. Mark There is 1 Reply. #: 3962 S13/Atari ST 29-May-90 22:06:32 Sb: #3933-M$OS9Lvl query Fm: David George 72240,134 To: Mark Wuest 74030,332 (X) Thanks for the reply. I already finished the program that I was working on. The structure was typedef'd in module.h (mod_config) so I didn't have to do it. #: 4220 S13/Atari ST 10-Jun-90 12:18:13 Sb: Atari Comm Programs Fm: David George 72240,134 To: ALL For all of you OSK users on the Atari ST: I am having difficulties with communications programs on the ST. Aterm locks up after xmodem downloads. I have to kill aterm and the shell that it runs under and restart a shell. (This is with the new stcio, with the stock stcio (no windows) aterm locks up and I have to reboot. Also Sterm v1.3 gives an error #000:102 when I try to xmodem download. Right now I have to download from CIS to my Coco3 and login to the Coco with the ST and restart the comm program everytime I download something. (I use the coco because I don't want to waste the time of restarting aterm every time I download a file from CIS) What do you folks use? Any idea of what my problem might be? David George 72240,134 Press !> #: 4224 S13/Atari ST 10-Jun-90 14:49:22 Sb: #4220-Atari Comm Programs Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: David George 72240,134 I use Kermit, and have had no problems with file transfers per se, although the T1 driver has a tendency to lock up the whole machine now and then on me. Kermit behaves rather well, so I would tend to blame your Aterm for the problems you're (oops) having. What version of OSK are you running? StG #: 4229 S13/Atari ST 10-Jun-90 15:19:34 Sb: #4220-Atari Comm Programs Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: David George 72240,134 There seem to have been vague problems reported here and there. Some say that iniz'ing the serial port helps. Something about when it deiniz's that it messes up (using normally without an iniz by hand). But this is folktale stuff... try it and see ;-). #: 4392 S13/Atari ST 15-Jun-90 19:59:36 Sb: #4224-Atari Comm Programs Fm: David George 72240,134 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 I am using OSK v2.2 I haven't tried kermit yet. I will try it next. What do you use for normal COM stuff? Dave #: 4394 S13/Atari ST 15-Jun-90 20:12:30 Sb: #4224-Atari Comm Programs Fm: David George 72240,134 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 I just saw your sysgo upload, so you must be the one I should ask. Is there an easy way to set environment variables in a C program. I am writing a new login program and would like to set up the env vars like the Microware version does. I am writing the new login because Microware STILL DOESN'T ENCRYPT THE PASSWORDS IN THE PASSWORD FILE ( are you reading this Microware???) I have an encryption routine and have written SU to take advantage of it. One reason I nead encryption is because I wrote CHOWN, CHGRP and SU which can take a usernumber or a username on the commandline (it looks up the name to get the usernumber) I have even passed on the environment to the new shell when using SU. David #: 4393 S13/Atari ST 15-Jun-90 20:00:51 Sb: #4229-#Atari Comm Programs Fm: David George 72240,134 To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X) I have the iniz t1 in my startup file. I will do an INIZ by hand before I try it next time. Thanks. Dave There is 1 Reply. #: 4407 S13/Atari ST 16-Jun-90 16:22:25 Sb: #4393-#Atari Comm Programs Fm: Robert Heller 71450,3432 To: David George 72240,134 (X) David: I use a somewhat hacked version of 'lmodem' I downloaded from BIX and have had no troubles uploading and downloading. It only supports XModem/CheckSum. I also have a separate XModem program (that does not have a 'com' mode - i.e. it is like UNIX's umodem program). It too is only XModem/Checksum. I think I also got it from BIX, but don't remember. I am using the stock serial driver on my ST (I could not get the window beast to work - I am not sure why and gave up - I had other things to get done at the time) Robert There is 1 Reply. #: 4418 S13/Atari ST 16-Jun-90 21:49:13 Sb: #4407-Atari Comm Programs Fm: David George 72240,134 To: Robert Heller 71450,3432 I will have to see what I can find. About the windows: I have had no problems with either installing it or using them. I am using the latest edition (#19) so maybe that was part of your problem. The only real reservations I have with using it is it doesn't have seperate keyboard buffers for each window, and the key repeat is disabled (because of the lack of buffers). #: 4460 S13/Atari ST 17-Jun-90 20:33:38 Sb: #Atari Comm Programs Fm: DENIS CHARTRAND 72561,2714 To: David George 72240,134 (X) If you speak about the Aterm program available here in OSK database, I'm the guy who wrote it. At the time I did the upload of that program, it was still under test and development. I did upload it because a few users were complaining about the lack of comm programs under OSK. Due to a lack of time, I didn't at the time had enough free hours to continue, so I passed a copy of the assembly source to one of my friend who was able to correct a few bugs left in it (especially the xmodem lock-up) and he add a few others features, like YModem, extended dialer, parity control, screen and shell enhancements, etc. I've just upload it in Lib 12 under the name AtermV2_6.ar, so use it and let's hope your xmodem problem is resolved. It's hard to spot the exact cause of the xmodem lock-up. While on my machine with the original aterm program this problem never appears, my friend had the same problem than yours on his Mega ST2 computer. When I used his new aterm version 2.6 on my 1040ST, I have problem with parity settings, while on his side everythings OK. It seems that there too many versions of ST computers on the market; if you have followed the PC-DITTO II saga in the ATARIVEN conference, you have surely noticed incompatibility between ST's. While some machines have CPU under the keyboards, others have the same chip near the floppy drive. Bad lots of MMU and GLUE chips also give problems. Here in Montreal ST machines have mostly disappear from stores; they are replaced by STE machines, with 4096 colors, stereo outputs, SIMMS RAM. The 64 pins 68000 CPU is replaced by a square grid array package. That means that PC-DITTO II will not work on those machines. Atari TT 68030 machines were introduced here in Montreal two weeks ago, I don't know if it's still using a 68901, or even if OS9/ST will boot on it. As soon as I have time I'll go in a Atari store, bring a copy of OSK with me and try to boot it. Price is around $3200 US for a basic machine with 2 MBytes of RAM and 40 MBytes hard disk. There is a Motorola VME bus on that machine, so maybe we can add a few boards. There are 2 Replies. #: 4559 S13/Atari ST 22-Jun-90 12:33:50 Sb: #4460-Atari Comm Programs Fm: David George 72240,134 To: DENIS CHARTRAND 72561,2714 (X) Thanks for the info. I also use the Mega ST 2. I haven't been in the ATARIVEN section yet, but I had heard about the compatibility problems with PC-DITTO II. Just to add a little to your statement about compatibility between ST's: My Mega 2 came with a little circuit board with a 74LS74 on it going to pins 12 through 18. In the process of messing around with the hardware I blew up my CPU and had to desolder it (I put a socket in after I removed the old CPU) and replaced it with a 68000P10 (that at the time I bought it was 4 weeks old by the date code). With the new CPU I didn't need the satelite board anymore so I removed it. Another thing I noticed is that most Mega 2's come with a composite sync signal on the monitor connector, NOT MINE !? Iwill download the new version and try it out. Thanks again. #: 4583 S13/Atari ST 23-Jun-90 19:22:56 Sb: #4460-Atari Comm Programs Fm: David George 72240,134 To: DENIS CHARTRAND 72561,2714 (X) I just tried out aterm v2.6 and it seems to work. The only problem I had was with trying to Ymodem download here on CIS. I could Ymodem download from my Coco3 fine. I get a CAN from Host and too many retransmissions ??? from CIS ??? I don't suffer from Xmodem lockup anymore either. I like the new ATerm as a whole. Thanks. Dave #: 4466 S13/Atari ST 18-Jun-90 10:36:53 Sb: #4394-#Atari Comm Programs Fm: Mark Wuest 74030,332 To: David George 72240,134 (X) David, I have set environment variables in C, and can give a pointer to avoid the pits *I* fell into. Make sure that you have storage in the program that sets or changes environment variables for the entire array of pointers *and* the strings to which they point. Do *NOT* just change the values you are passed, as there is no C data structure implicitly declaring storage for them and the code that would "find out" how much storage was there will make the program hard to read later. Here's what I do: char *env[20]; /* storage for 19 envir pointers and NULL */ ..... env[0] = "TERM=vt100"; evn[1] = "PORT=/term"; env[2] = "SHELL=ksh"; env[3] = 0; Of course you can use getenv() to pass on variables you were passed. Note that getenv() returns an int, not a char * as the manual says (I know, in OSK they are the same - this will save you a warning by doing the cast). Good luck! Mark There is 1 Reply. #: 4560 S13/Atari ST 22-Jun-90 12:37:23 Sb: #4466-Atari Comm Programs Fm: David George 72240,134 To: Mark Wuest 74030,332 Thanks for the reply, but I already figured it out. Documentation is a little scarce on how to treat the environment, but I was able to scrape up enough info (mainly from reading os9exec() repeatedly). And that was almost how I did it. (add a few strcpy()'s here and a few strcat()'s there). #: 4502 S13/Atari ST 19-Jun-90 21:50:28 Sb: #4394-#Atari Comm Programs Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: David George 72240,134 (X) Yup, there is an easy way to set environment variables in a C program. Keep an eye on upload area, I will release a routine I'm developing for this soon. I already have a new login (part of StG Login pkg, v4) that encrypts passwords, as well as a lot of other major improvements.. It *should* become available online at some point, as I am planning on placing a limited version of the login package in shareware when complete (in a few weeks). Thanks for letting me know what you are after though - anythinng else you're wanting to have? StG There are 2 Replies. #: 4517 S13/Atari ST 20-Jun-90 06:50:43 Sb: #4502-#Atari Comm Programs Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 (X) I'm curious, Scott... I played with your older version of LOGIN for quite some time before I started working with the one that I have now. One thing that caused me no end of trouble was the non-standard format of the password file. Have you changed that in newer releases? Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 4548 S13/Atari ST 21-Jun-90 14:27:50 Sb: #4517-#Atari Comm Programs Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) The format of the password file was actually derived from the "standard" onei.e. what the original login module used. However, I added several fields at the end, which the original one barfs on, and I accidently got the user and exec dirs backwards. I also change the "defaulting" of several of the fields, i.e. a blank user directory is not illegal but will default to /dd/user/(name). The V3 package still uses this format - but in the V4 release (soon to be out) I have corrected the user/exec dir being exchanged. Also being added to the V4 release is a password.dat format (with fast username/name/number index files) as an option - which is necessary to use several additional features. Anything before V3 is considered garbage - especially the 0.9 that I had a long time ago (3 years?) uploaded here. The V3 itself works quite well, and since all the C libraries and some source have been released on the net, writing routines to interact with it is quite easy. But yes, what some people would call stanard routines will not work with the older formats. This is being completely fixed in the new V4. StG There is 1 Reply. #: 4553 S13/Atari ST 21-Jun-90 21:24:33 Sb: #4548-Atari Comm Programs Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 Glad to hear that version 4 will be compatable with conventions already in place. Steve #: 4561 S13/Atari ST 22-Jun-90 12:41:51 Sb: #4502-Atari Comm Programs Fm: David George 72240,134 To: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 I figured out the environment stuff. I might be interested in your login package, but only if the password file routines are available (even if it costs extra). I would only expect .r files, so that I can link them into some of my programs that require access to the password file. (like SU, CH (like SU, and CHOWN). My SU asks for a password to change user unless you are root (just like the UNIX version). And CHOWN will take a username as well as a usernumber for the user to change ownership to. Dave #: 4501 S13/Atari ST 19-Jun-90 21:47:06 Sb: #4392-Atari Comm Programs Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: David George 72240,134 (X) Actually, I use kermit for everything - almost. I haven't had any problems with v2.2, so I doubt it's the cause. Actually, I am writing my own... StG #: 4495 S13/Atari ST 19-Jun-90 20:38:39 Sb: #UUCP & OSK 2.1 Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521 To: all I'm having trouble getting the uucico program from the TOP 2.0 package to run on a 1 Meg. Atari ST running OSK 2.1. It seems to have problems setting the parity on /t1, resulting in being unable to correctly read the responses given my the UNIX host I'm trying to connect to. Has anyone else had this problem? What's the current version of OSK for the Atari? I've recently re-surrected this system, so I'm sure what I have is out of date... --Dwight D. McKay --75776,1521 -or- mckay@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu -or- ...rutgers!pur-ee!mckay There are 2 Replies. #: 4508 S13/Atari ST 19-Jun-90 22:01:43 Sb: #4495-UUCP & OSK 2.1 Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521 Dwight - hmmm, they use a different OSK/ST port over yonder. Could be that the parity byte is encoded differently? #: 4543 S13/Atari ST 21-Jun-90 05:04:11 Sb: #4495-UUCP & OSK 2.1 Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521 Hi Dwight! The members of the TOP groupd use ATARI STs also. However, I understand the machine sold in Europe is different from the one sold here - (differences in archeture?). They (TOP) tell me the machine sold there is superior to the one sold here. I don't know - I use a PT68. One of their members, Frank Kaefer, occassionally drops in on this forum. You may want to leave him a message. His CIS number is 72427,2101. You can also reach him through INTERNET. His address is '>INTERNET:fkk%stasys@doit.sub.org'. He has to pay for calls to CIS and EMAIL from INTERNET (overseas charges) so please take it easy on him. Ed /ex #: 4606 S13/Atari ST 24-Jun-90 15:16:17 Sb: #4553-Atari Comm Programs Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Yes, my initial intention was to make all the StG modules interact with the original stuff so that you could use either login or tsmon for instance - but I've had to drop that idea somewhat. You can use the old tsmon or the old login, but you loose net transfer capabilities. But the new modules act the same and use the same format password file etc, for the most part. StG #: 4609 S13/Atari ST 24-Jun-90 15:22:17 Sb: #4561-Atari Comm Programs Fm: Scott t. Griepentrog 72427,335 To: David George 72240,134 (X) How about this - you can help me with the V4 development. Although I personally am against having utilities such as SU laying around (one can just log into sysop no?), I haven't yet written a chown. We couldl work out a swap of a set of my library utilities and full package for some additional routines to be added to it. I have already completed the majority of the library routines, including the new password file read routines. It does not as yet have the key index stuff in it yet, but programs written to use these calls will work when recompiled with the change in password routines. It would be nice to have a chown (as well as other utilities) that are integrated into the package. Call me at (317) 241-6401 to discuss it further. StG #: 4615 S13/Atari ST 24-Jun-90 19:44:33 Sb: #4508-UUCP & OSK 2.1 Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521 To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X) Perhaps. What I see if I start up kermit after UUCP has given up is the same as I would see if I had the port set to 8-n-0. I can tell this as the login banner on the UNIX machine I'm calling gives the same set of "cracker" characters. They look like they have the 8th bit set. Running "uucico -x9" gives me the impression that uucico is reading the first character which has the 8th bit set and giving up. Sigh... --ddm #: 4616 S13/Atari ST 24-Jun-90 19:44:40 Sb: #4543-UUCP & OSK 2.1 Fm: Dwight D. McKay 75776,1521 To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X) Thanks, Ed. I'll send Frank a note via the internet and see if he can enlighten me. I would not be surprised if I have something setup wrong as I'm more of a UNIX person then an os9'er... --ddm #: 6695 S13/Atari ST 15-Sep-90 01:27:21 Sb: #Missing File Fm: Paul Good 71706,1227 To: sysop (X) To Sysop: There is a file listed in DL13.CAT called STCLK.ASM. However, when I try to download it, I get a file-not-found error. Has this file been moved off-line or removed from CIS?Your assistance would be appreciated. There is 1 Reply. #: 6696 S13/Atari ST 15-Sep-90 02:51:27 Sb: #6695-Missing File Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Paul Good 71706,1227 Paul, Right now, I have no idea what happened to the file. Those .CAT files are over a year old, and should have been pulled a long time ago (they're gone, now). It's likely that the file had not been accessed in over six months, and was removed in one of our periodic purges of the library. Perhaps someone will have it available, and will reupload it for you. Wayne #: 6717 S13/Atari ST 15-Sep-90 21:41:36 Sb: #6695-Missing File Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Paul Good 71706,1227 (X) Paul - I just found that file on my drive... I'll AR it and reupload it. Hope it's the one you want (to use a Dallas romclock chip in the ST?). kev #: 6851 S13/Atari ST 21-Sep-90 18:33:08 Sb: Atari ST Fm: - Visitor 73020,413 To: [F] Kevin 76703,4227 Excuse me, I own an Atari ST and find TOS very disappointing. Can OS-9 give my Atari real multitasking capability? From whom would I purchase a copy? #: 7615 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 20-Oct-90 22:52:06 Sb: #New Vendor's Section Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: All The OS-9 Forum has established Section 13 - OS9/OSK Vendors - as a semi-private meeting ground for both hardware and software vendors who are servicing the OS-9 community. Admission to this section is by invitation of the Forum Manager or his designated Associate SYSOP only. It is important to note that invitations to participate in this section will be extended to established companies, and not individual persons. A company may name any person they choose to represent them in this section, but should remember that the person named will be assumed to be an official spokesman for the company. Only one person per company will be allowed access to this section. That person shall act as the information dispersal point within his company, and shall funnel information from within that company into the section. Messages to and from company employees/associates who are not active in the section shall be clearly marked as such within the body of the message. An invitation to participate in this section will be issued to any established who applies for an invitation. A company will be considered to be "established" if they (a) have advertised an OS-9 based product in a nationally circulated publication within the last 6 months or (b) have an OS-9 product under development and can document to the SYSOP that the company has a business license/sales permit/tax permit for doing business in its state of domicile, and that such OS-9 product will be released to the market within 6 months. [continued in first reply] There is 1 Reply. #: 7616 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 20-Oct-90 22:53:50 Sb: #7615-New Vendor's Section Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) [continued from 7615] Any other company who desires to be represented in this section, but who feels that they may not meet the criteria listed above may request exemption from those requirements, presenting whatever evidence they deem appropriate. Any company who desires access to this Section shall request same in a message to *SYSOP on the forum, or through CompuServe mail to : Wayne Day 76703,376, or via the US Mail to: Wayne Day, Golden Triangle Corporation, P O Box 79074 Fort Worth, TX, 76179-0074. Telephone calls will not be accepted as requests for access! Each request shall be from the president/owner/CEO of the company and shall state that the company agrees to the rules of participation in the section, as stated above. We are instituting these rules not to keep anyone "deserving" out. It's not even to keep "new" folks out. It IS to make sure that everyone who participates in this section is a bona fide vendor! If you have any questions about the new Vendor's Section, eligibility requirements, or how to gain access, please feel free to ask me in a message here on the forum! Wayne Day forum manager PS: This new section will be available to everyone for the first two weeks, in order to get the word spread around. After that, at a date to be announced by the SYSOP, it will become accessible to only those companies who have requested access. #: 7689 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 23-Oct-90 09:46:04 Sb: #7616-#New Vendor's Section Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) ok i have a question. Does this section apply to an author who has a product distributed by another vendor? I am the author of APBBS and it is currently being sold through Second City Software. an MM/1 version of APBBS is in the works. Mike There is 1 Reply. #: 7712 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 24-Oct-90 00:23:34 Sb: #7689-#New Vendor's Section Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 (X) Mike, If you're doing direct customer sales and support, then there's no problem. If you're not doing either, I'm not sure. We'll need to think it through some more. The idea is not to keep anyone "qualified" out. But, rather, the idea is to make sure that the folks who are actually doing this thing as a business have an area where they can chat, with the knowledge that it's a "qualified" audience that's seeing their work. Wayne There is 1 Reply. #: 7748 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 25-Oct-90 12:53:13 Sb: #7712-#New Vendor's Section Fm: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) well even though Second City Software sells my product I have sold copies myself and is allowed by our contract. I also am the supporter of the product VIA my BBS and/or voice call from those who need help on it. (the BBS is public but has sections for customers) Just letting ya know what I do! (snicker) Mike There is 1 Reply. #: 7771 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 26-Oct-90 04:57:02 Sb: #7748-New Vendor's Section Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Mike Guzzi 76576,2715 (X) That sounds like direct customer sales/support to me. Thanks! Wayne #: 7714 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 24-Oct-90 02:10:30 Sb: #7616-#New Vendor's Section Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) Wayne, Request access to the new section. I believe we meet your criterea and we will be advertising in RAINBOW the next available issue (December, I think). Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO There is 1 Reply. #: 7738 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 24-Oct-90 22:35:58 Sb: #7714-#New Vendor's Section Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X) Gotcha Ed. Wayne There is 1 Reply. #: 7810 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 27-Oct-90 20:46:43 Sb: #7738-#New Vendor's Section Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) Wayne, I request access on behalf of Second City Software, as the author of UltiMusE-III, which has been advertised in The Rainbow for a year and a half. The only question is whether Ed Hathaway, owner of 2nd City, would pick me to represent him or one of his other authors -- I'd have to run tath past him. Ed himself is not on CIS. Ed and I live only 10 minutes apart and talk often, so it should be OK. I'll ask him about it, pending your approval of my admission to Section 13. Thanks, mike knudsen. There is 1 Reply. #: 7823 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 28-Oct-90 00:50:23 Sb: #7810-New Vendor's Section Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 Mike, Yes, please do check with Ed, since you'd be representing his company. Wayne #: 7880 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 28-Oct-90 22:22:22 Sb: #7616-#New Vendor's Section Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) I too, would like access to the 'Vender's Section'. As I am Owner/Operator of Hyper-Tech Software, Author of MVCanvas for the CoCo, and am a developer for both OS-9/6809 and OS-9/68000. Thanks, Mike Haaland There is 1 Reply. #: 7896 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 29-Oct-90 17:53:18 Sb: #7880-New Vendor's Section Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Gotcha Mike! Wayne #: 7730 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 24-Oct-90 18:39:00 Sb: #section 13 Fm: Frank Hogg 70310,317 To: [F] 76703,376 (X) I would like to be part of section 13. Thank You Frank Hogg There is 1 Reply. #: 7739 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 24-Oct-90 22:36:28 Sb: #7730-#section 13 Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Frank Hogg 70310,317 (X) Gotcha, Frank. Wayne There is 1 Reply. #: 7753 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 25-Oct-90 15:41:46 Sb: #7739-#section 13 Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) I would like to be a part of the new section, Wayne. Thanks for a great idea! Paul Interactive Media Systems, Inc. There is 1 Reply. #: 7772 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 26-Oct-90 04:57:30 Sb: #7753-section 13 Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 Gotcha, Paul! Wayne #: 8050 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 06-Nov-90 20:15:57 Sb: #Software License? Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: ALL I have acquired a program from a software author for sale under my company name. I need to whip up a license agreement with the dude, only I don't know what I'm doing! Can anyone with some experiance in this give me a little help/advise? Thanks! Zack There is 1 Reply. #: 8051 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 06-Nov-90 21:44:21 Sb: #8050-#Software License? Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack - yeah, consult a lawyer . There's a lot to cover, such as maintenance, who does what, how long you keep rights if you fail to advertise, how often you pay, etc. However, you might stop by the CONSULT forum... their libs may have a form that you can use, or they could point you to more info. - kev There is 1 Reply. #: 8221 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 16-Nov-90 07:28:32 Sb: #8051-Software License? Fm: MOTD Editor..Bill Brady 70126,267 To: [F] Zack 76407,1524 (X) Zack, you may want to give me a call: 301/952-1761 #: 8065 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 07-Nov-90 23:09:48 Sb: #7823-New Vendor's Section Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) OK -- will talk to Ed tomorrow nite, after giving an MM/1 demo to our local Coco Club (Glenside). #: 8108 S13/OS9/OSK Vendors 10-Nov-90 19:34:38 Sb: Representing Second City Fm: Mike Knudsen 72467,1111 To: [F] Wayne Day 76703,376 (X) Wayne -- I asked Ed Hathaway last nite about representing Second City SOftware here, and he said "By all means!" So I'm "go" for the representation on Channel 13. --mike knudsen