#: 3208 S6/Applications 01-May-90 09:48:39 Sb: Daynaform Fm: Butch Mooney 76702,1126 To: ALL Hi, I'm having trouble getting Daynaform to print single line. I use a Citizen 120D printer that works the same as a Epson. No problems using RSDOS. I have changed the df.init file many times and it doesn't make any difference. I anyone has any suggestion it would be of great help. Thanks, Butch #: 3726 S6/Applications 22-May-90 23:52:44 Sb: WINDOW WRITER V1.3 Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 To: ALL Does anyone out there use WINDOW WRITER from Owl Wware. I just received version 1.3 (a $15 upgrade) that fixes some of the bugs in v 1.2. I think it is a nice word processor, although I wish it had some features that I use in the text editors at work. (Anybody out there ever use Epsilon 4.0 or EMACS on the PC ? You know what I mean about features.) Anyway i have been lacking a word processor for LII until WW came along. Ever try writing a C program with edit ? Sucks eggs. The main bug fix is that WW now unlinks all it's little ram buddies when it is done. It would make your memory look ike swiss cheese before, and not much free cheese left either ! I haven't tried using all the other features to see if they have been fixed. I don't know what everybody else uses under LII, but I do like WW and recommend it IF you a considering bying a word processor. TC #: 3813 S6/Applications 26-May-90 03:45:01 Sb: #AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 To: ALL I know there are a lot of Dynacalc users out there, so I figured I would tap into that info. When I click on my aif file, Ddcalc starts up but responds with an error 216, and says device not found. Also the colors I have p [Dspeci [D [Dspecified in the aif don't get used. Can't figure out why. Any Ideas ??? THANX TC There is 1 Reply. #: 3828 S6/Applications 26-May-90 10:30:44 Sb: #3813-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X) Does Dynacalc work at the command line level? Here is the AIF I use : Dynacalc ICONS/icon.dyc 0 2 80 24 1 0 Zack There is 1 Reply. #: 3832 S6/Applications 26-May-90 12:23:04 Sb: #3828-AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) More late night revelations... After working on my system for what seemed endless hours, Dynacal finally camu up with the colors I selected. I think I may not have had all the files it neede in my /r0/cmds directory. I know that dcalc and dcalc.trm were there but when I first clicked on th icon I encountered the previous problems. The 216 error/device not found was due to an old aif that I was experimenting with that had a cd /h0/main/dynacalc for the parameter line. I guess i'll just have to change directorys through dcalc once it is running. I hate it when I fix one of these wierd os9 quirks and I don't know what caused it Thanx for the help. Later.......................................... TC #: 3902 S6/Applications 28-May-90 14:07:24 Sb: #3813-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Mike Stephenson 71655,415 To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X) ~ TONY; There is a 'trick' to using the RS-OS9 version 1.0 of DYNACALC. The manual would have you believe that the file dynacalc.trm should be in your current DATA directory. A much easier way to run DynaCalc is to set the execution attribute and place the file dynacalc.trm in your EXECUTION directory. You see DynaCalc looks for dynacalc.trm in your current DATA directory FIRST. Then if not found in the DATA directory, it looks in your EXECUTION directory LAST. If not found in either it errors out. This function of DynaCalc is internal to DynaCalc and doesn't matter whether you are using the STOCK SHELL or SHELL+. (I'm using SHELL+) With dynacalc.trm in your EXECUTION directory you may run DynaCalc anywhere on your HD tree, with an AIF or otherwise, provided the target file has the '.cal' extension. Using a name of 'AIF.cal' for your aif file name will further enhance your ability to run all of your files automatically while in Multi-Vue. Best, Mike There is 1 Reply. #: 3915 S6/Applications 29-May-90 00:31:21 Sb: #3902-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 To: Mike Stephenson 71655,415 I got Dcalc up and running ok now. I even have different colored windows to run it in from aif files. I'm not sure why I had the errors earlier. How can you have more than 1 aif with a .cal extension in the same directory? Your messag implied I could run multiple files from an aif called aif.cal. How do you pass a different filename to only one aif without re-editing it? Aalso what did you mean by the RSDOS version of dynacalc? I'm running dynacalc under os9. TC There is 1 Reply. #: 3941 S6/Applications 29-May-90 16:04:41 Sb: #3915-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X) If I may jump in here, it is my impression that you can (read should) only have ONE aif per directory with the same three character extension. Actually, all AIFs on the same disk are "cached" as long as you don't select a new disk (or the same disk by clicking on the disk icon). First one found has precedence. What Mike may have meant was that if you save your Dynacalc spreadsheet files with a .cal extension (which may or may not be the default, I don't reqa really use it all that much), then after you have "been" to a subdirectory with an AIF.cal in it, then all files which have a .cal exstention also will show up as icons, and if you double click on one it will call up the program specified with the AIF and automagically supply the filename as the command line parameter. Make sense? Zack There is 1 Reply. #: 3980 S6/Applications 30-May-90 01:22:10 Sb: #3941-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Thanx for the info. Hey, was your tower a mini tower or full size? I haven't really seen one of them up close. Aare they all pretty much thes same, as far as space inside, ability to move the hardware around easily. I don't really care if it has a power supply, buttons, lights or keyswitches. I'm more concerned about price, flexibilty, and how easy it is to get my os9 system inside. I can't see spending $200 or more for a metal case. Why are they sooooo expensive. TC There is 1 Reply. #: 3999 S6/Applications 30-May-90 16:17:27 Sb: #3980-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X) I have my coco system in a full size tower which costs $189 from MicroLab. I guess about $50 of that is for the 230 W power supply. Other than that, it's a pretty big piece of hardware. Dunnot too much about the mini tower, haven't really maneuvered around in one. Zack There are 2 Replies. #: 4005 S6/Applications 30-May-90 19:17:02 Sb: #3999-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) So, what are you waiting for? Write up the directions, either for sale or for upload! If you come up with instructions that even a ten-thumbed person like me can follow successfully, I bet you'd earn lots of respect, some money, or both. There is 1 Reply. #: 4012 S6/Applications 30-May-90 22:01:33 Sb: #4005-AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) I assume you mean instructions based on "how I did it", ie, put my coco system in a tower case? I have worked on such a document, but haven't really finished the job yet. Besides, it was really pretty easy, given the documents ATCOCO.TXT and ATCOCO.ADD in the libs. But, seriously, folks, I do plan to upload at least a document describing my experiances with the experiance. Zack #: 4099 S6/Applications 03-Jun-90 22:54:46 Sb: #3999-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) BTW, Zack, Kevin WILL be in Charlotte with us this Thursday. Call Interactive Media Systems (gosh I forget their number -- try 704 UWA MADE) to find out about times, directions, etc. Should include demo of full mm/1 systems up and running with latest windows. Max Bryant, Mark Sheffield, Frank Neuner, and myself should be there. I BELIEVE we are videotaping it on Super VHS for inclusion in the KLE video due out in July on the MM/1. Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 4110 S6/Applications 04-Jun-90 09:38:36 Sb: #4099-AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 I'm planning to attend. I think Eric Stringer is posting directions on Delphi, if he doesn't I'll give IMS a call. See ya then! Zack #: 3982 S6/Applications 30-May-90 01:24:54 Sb: #$$$ Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 To: Zack Sessions Zack, I'm well aware that $ means hex. I was talking about the $ $$ names of the functions names and system calls ! TC There is 1 Reply. #: 4000 S6/Applications 30-May-90 16:19:09 Sb: #3982-$$$ Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X) Oh, well I think Bruce addressed that. All OS9 system functions are in the format F$function (or I$function for IO specific calls). Just a standard I guess Microware adopted. Zack #: 4130 S6/Applications 06-Jun-90 01:49:24 Sb: #3915-AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Mike Stephenson 71655,415 To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 ~ Tony; Sorry for replying late .. I only get on here weekly. Zack's reply was right on the mark. That is what I meant to say. You place an AIF file in your HD tree and it gets read throughout the system. Because DynaCalc saves its files with a '.cal' extension do the following. . Make your file AIF.cal and place it early in your tree. Then when using Multi-Vue in other parts of your system, when MV comes upon the any DynaCalc saved file with a '.cal' extension it refers back to the AIF.cal file and loads DynaCalc, executes it, and loads the '.cal' file automatically. I didn't say RSDOS version of Dynacalc. I said RS-OS9. In my previous message . . >>>"There is a 'trick' to using the RS-OS9 version 1.0 of DYNACALC."<<< Best, Mike #: 4131 S6/Applications 06-Jun-90 01:49:36 Sb: #3941-AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Mike Stephenson 71655,415 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) ~ Zack; Thanks for helping Tony out. You were right. Your explanation of using AIF's and multiple files was correct, and that is what I did intend to say. Best; Mike #: 4152 S6/Applications 08-Jun-90 00:49:41 Sb: Studio Works > OS9 Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 To: Mike Guzzi Mike I have been using the rsdos utility that came with my Disto SCII to import sound files from Studio Works to os9. Now I can share them with you and others. I can't wait to get the new 8 bit A/D cartridge that Oblique Triad is coming out with. We should be able to get CLEANER samples with it at a lower sample rate, which means more sound in less time. I had one or 2 samples that were bigger than a standard rs floppy, so I couldn't bring it home to os9. Bummer ! I asked them if they could support os9 in the future, or at least 40 track or DS drives. Their reply was no, but they might port Studio Works Pro to MSDOS of all OS'S. Oh well, I guess I can live with sound files 156k or less long. TC #: 4155 S6/Applications 08-Jun-90 01:01:16 Sb: View.ar Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 To: Jim Peasley Jim Thanx for all the help with the upload download stuff. I downloaded your view.ar program , but it won't run on my system. I get a 207, or 237 error, even with MV killed and only ONE text window open, and no stray programs in memory. Is there any way to make it smaller ? TC #: 4195 S6/Applications 09-Jun-90 14:43:41 Sb: #4155-View.ar Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 ~ Tony; Hmmm... are you running with only 128K?? If so, I'm not sure that you will?be able to use View. The program itself takes up 11,020 bytes in memory, with some additional memory eaten by RUNB, SYSCALL, GFX2, and INKEY, for a total of 25,648 bytes. Even with the use of merged runb, sy,call and inkey modules, this will still take up 4 8K blocks. Immediately after booting, what does MFREE show? And did you use the make_alias_cmds script file that was included in the archive? This will cut down on the amount of memory used. C'mon back... ...Jim #: 4245 S6/Applications 10-Jun-90 22:51:41 Sb: #View buglet Fm: Al Fleagle 72527,1354 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, I'm having some problems with your view program. Unless the first characters are '#:' it seems to get lost and skips two-thirds of the messages without giving you the opportunity to reply. I think it might have something to do with assuming the leftmost characters read in will be '#:'. Check around line 150. Thanks. Al There are 2 Replies. #: 4317 S6/Applications 12-Jun-90 17:39:56 Sb: #4245-View buglet Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Al Fleagle 72527,1354 Al, Butting in here, but view simply processes text files of messages you have captured. It has to make some basic assumptions. The most important part of any message is the message header. The message header is identified by the "#:" in column one of the text file. There really is no other way for view to recognize the message header, and therefore the beginning of any message. Its one of the drawbacks of using any offline message processor, including the highly popular TAPCIS program used by IBM users. Bill #: 4332 S6/Applications 13-Jun-90 06:14:27 Sb: #4245-View buglet Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Al Fleagle 72527,1354 ~ Al; You are correct in that the program expects the first 2 chars to be '#:'. This is the delimiter that the program uses to know when a message ends and the next one begins. Let me ask you a few Q's : #1 - Is your CIS profile set to a 24 X 80 screen size? (shouldn't really matter though, never mind) #2 - Are you opening your capture buffer and reading messages non-stop? If you aren't, then it's possible that you're missing the first part of each message. Try running the program in "search" mode, looking for "#:" - it should stop and let you read the message when the screen fills no matter where the delimiters are. ...Jim p.s. As a suggestion, why not try STERM v.1.3 by Mark Griffith? STERM will allow you to 'T'ransmit ASCII files (such as replies), it also does XMODEM up/downloads, AND it supports B+ which is faster than XMODEM. #: 4282 S6/Applications 12-Jun-90 01:04:53 Sb: #Play VS Dynacalc Fm: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 To: Mike Guzzi Does anyone know why dynacalc starts snoring in the monitors speaker after running the play utility ?????????? zzzzzzzzzz TC There is 1 Reply. #: 4295 S6/Applications 12-Jun-90 10:09:34 Sb: #4282-Play VS Dynacalc Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: TONY CAPPELLINI 76370,2104 (X) Tony - It probably has to do with the fact that Dynacalc also does getstat's to figure out if you're using a mouse or joystick to do cursor positioning. The PLAY command is also mucking with that same PIA port, and probably doesn't get all the bits reset as cleanly as it could. My bet is that it leaves the 'single bit sound' line setup for output. Pete #: 4297 S6/Applications 12-Jun-90 11:59:33 Sb: #4110-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack, Great to see ya. Sorry we didn't have more time to chat. Considering the drive you made, we should have bought you diner! Well, next time, eh? We spend a lot of time in the Raleigh, Charlotte, Davidson area. Let's stay in touch for the face-to-face meetings. Best regards, Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 4307 S6/Applications 12-Jun-90 16:43:38 Sb: #4297-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 (X) Nice to finally meet you, too, and all yer "cohorts"! Let me know the next time y'all in Raleigh, I'll come up. It's MUCH closer than Charlotte! Working on a proposal, should I send it to IMS or KLE? Zack There are 2 Replies. #: 4330 S6/Applications 13-Jun-90 04:19:34 Sb: #4307-#AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Dan Robins 73007,2473 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack, Next time we haul 'ole Paul into Raleigh, it'd be kinda nice meeting you as well! And I agree, the folks at KLE & IMS are a nice group of folks! Dan There is 1 Reply. #: 4341 S6/Applications 13-Jun-90 16:18:45 Sb: #4330-AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: Dan Robins 73007,2473 (X) Keep me posted of any special events! Zack #: 4343 S6/Applications 13-Jun-90 17:21:56 Sb: #4307-AIF -> DYNACALC Fm: Paul K. Ward 73477,2004 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) IMS, 1840 Biltmore St NW Suite 10 Washington DC 20009 For all development systems, financing is available. Paul #: 4775 S6/Applications 30-Jun-90 13:48:46 Sb: Two RS232's Fm: Richard Ries 76057,3534 To: 76370,1366 (X) Everett- I don't know if anyone repl'd to yr. msg. #4480 (6/18/90) re using two RS232 paks. You'll run into trouble because both paks will have the same address built into their hardware. Unless you are REALLY good at hacking and jumpering, and have the schematics, you may be better off contacting Ken-Ton Elec. ; (187 Green Acres Rd. Tonawanda, NY 14150 718-837-9168) for their Dual Comm Pack for $89. Rich #: 4810 S6/Applications 01-Jul-90 20:46:47 Sb: #Speller Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Bob, I downloaded your speeded-up version of the Users' Group spelling program and noted significant improvement with the Dict lookup program - often 600 percent faster than the original program. However, I haven't found any improvement with the Spell program. In fact, the new Spell occasionally runs significantly slower than the older version, especially when the text in question has words that appear in the Auxdict file. Is this to be expected? Am I doing something wrong? Wendell There is 1 Reply. #: 4883 S6/Applications 05-Jul-90 01:14:26 Sb: #4810-#Speller Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X) Wendell, I'm not sure what you are doing, but I suspect that something IS wrong. Neither the new or old version uses an "Auxdict file". Are you confusing this with another program (maybe T/S Spell?). Or do I have an old version which I spent all my time rewriting? PS. Mark Griffith tried it and reports the speedup. Mark: did you try both Dict and Spell? \ex post There is 1 Reply. #: 4886 S6/Applications 05-Jul-90 03:41:05 Sb: #4883-#Speller Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Bob, I checked my copy of Spell - it contains 10,185 bytes and uses three files in the /DD/MISC directory: dictionary, dict.index and auxdict (the same dictionary and dict.index files I use with your Dict lookup program - I linked them to the /DD/SYS/SPELL directory). When Spell reads a file it first prints out: Reading file, Checking common dictionary (then gives the number of matches), Checking user's dictionary (number of matches), Checking master dictionary (and a final number of matches). Your version of the Dict program was SO much faster than the original (6 times as fast) I wondered why the Spell program was not equally accelerated. Wendell There is 1 Reply. #: 4945 S6/Applications 07-Jul-90 01:30:56 Sb: #4886-Speller Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X) Wendell, Seems like you have a later version of spell than I do. If you have the sources for it could you mail me a copy? #: 4931 S6/Applications 06-Jul-90 18:30:52 Sb: Help for Cousin Fm: Richard Ries 76057,3534 To: 70745,1044 AllenIf you haven't gotten a lot of replies already, try "GO HANDICAPPED" here on CIS. Also, in the 2/89 issue of the Rainbow, Dennis Weide wrote an article about using a Coco for handicapped people. I got tthe impression he's done several of them. The given address is 14201 Marquette N.E. Albuquerque, NM, 87123. Use a SASE. Also in another article, a puff switch is mentioned. It is from Honeywell - Model PSF100A. Apparently, Edmund Scientific of Barrington, NJ carries them. Good luck, and my best wishes for your cousin Rich Ries #: 4973 S6/Applications 08-Jul-90 11:00:30 Sb: #.PAK files? Fm: Ken Drexler 75126,3427 To: Bob van der Poel Bob I just downloaded your update on the spell checker. The download went fine but how do I unPAK the files. (This may be the dumb question of the week.) Is the pak/unpack program specific to the CoCo? Is a copy here? I have been using the spell checker some but it is slooooow, so any improvement is welcome. Thanks for the help. Ken There is 1 Reply. #: 5002 S6/Applications 08-Jul-90 15:41:37 Sb: #4973-.PAK files? Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Ken Drexler 75126,3427 Ken, Look in Lib 10 under Pak.bin. That should do it. Wendell #: 5133 S6/Applications 13-Jul-90 01:44:23 Sb: #4886-Speller Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X) Wendell, Thanks for mailing your version of spell. I've had a quick look at it and it seems that someone did indeed make similar changes to the program to mine. I suppose that I could gloat a bit and say that mine are more "legal C", but that isn't the point. However, I see that they have used a quick-word dictionary, similiar to what I did in DICT. I added this to my version of spell at one point and found that it made very little difference in the speed. Which makes sense, since the entire dictionary is scanned anyway. I also see that they are using the index. I've not had time to have a good look at all the code, but I will later. I guess that I could do the timings myself, but what kind of difference have you found between this version and my hack? #: 5184 S6/Applications 14-Jul-90 10:29:39 Sb: #5002-.PAK files? Fm: Ken Drexler 75126,3427 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X) Wendell, Thanks for the pointer. I am on my way to Lib 10. Ken #: 5451 S6/Applications 22-Jul-90 11:05:20 Sb: #Question on PhantomGraph Fm: JOHN TEAGUE 75715,1670 To: All My friend Bob brought his dmp-105 printer and PhantomGraph (26-3276) software to the club meeting last week because when he tries to print, the paper never advances, (resulting in an extremely compressed image). We tried changing xmode /p from -lf to +lf. This had no effect. Another friend took the software home and tried printing on a Star NX1000. By adjusting the DIP switches on the printer, he was able to get the paper to advance, but by too much, resulting in a striped effect. Is this a problem with the software? Is there a fix? Our objective is to get the program running on Bob's DMP105. Thanks for any advice. There is 1 Reply. #: 5454 S6/Applications 22-Jul-90 11:23:12 Sb: #5451-#Question on PhantomGraph Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: JOHN TEAGUE 75715,1670 (X) You need to patch dmptandy.drv with the following: l dmptandy.drv c 019f 40 5a c 01a4 04 02 c 02c3 0c 0d v OK? Zack There is 1 Reply. #: 5457 S6/Applications 22-Jul-90 11:41:44 Sb: #5454-#Question on PhantomGraph Fm: JOHN TEAGUE 75715,1670 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) GEEZ--talk about quick response. thanks a million--I'll do it. There is 1 Reply. #: 5460 S6/Applications 22-Jul-90 13:50:10 Sb: #5457-Question on PhantomGraph Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: JOHN TEAGUE 75715,1670 (X) You're welcome. I have a DMP-106, very similar to the DMP-105. Even with the patch, the screen dump does not print a full print head of data with each lateral pass, consequently a dump of a graph takes upwards to 30-40 minutes at 2400 baud. Zack #: 5473 S6/Applications 22-Jul-90 22:54:24 Sb: #5454-#Question on PhantomGraph Fm: JOHN TEAGUE 75715,1670 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack, Could you check that modpatch script again. When I used it the third line: c 02c3 0c 0d gave a "byte does not match" message. I tried to run phantomgraph anyway, but it locked up when I tried to print. There is 1 Reply. #: 5491 S6/Applications 23-Jul-90 21:25:20 Sb: #5473-Question on PhantomGraph Fm: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 To: JOHN TEAGUE 75715,1670 As Mark mentions, I have a typo in my message. It should be $02ce. Sorry. Zack #: 5477 S6/Applications 23-Jul-90 05:42:25 Sb: #5454-Question on PhantomGraph Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Zack, That should be $02ce in the third line of your patch for DMPTANDY.DRV. Mark #: 5487 S6/Applications 23-Jul-90 19:38:29 Sb: #Speller Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Bob, Here's a comparison of your spell program and the User's Group Spell that I sent you: File Length Poel Spell User's Spell 77 bytes 54 seconds 6 seconds 675 57 18 1085 58 25 3267 64 47 10800 67 61 14300 70 76 19200 73 82 The User's Group program was faster for files with less then 12k bytes. Your program was faster with files larger than 12K. Wendell There is 1 Reply. #: 5501 S6/Applications 24-Jul-90 01:20:54 Sb: #5487-Speller Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X) Wendell, thanks for the info. I've been doing some more playing with the spell program and have incorporated some of the features form the program you sent me into it. I've managed to double the speed on a 3K and 8K file. I'll post it later this week. #: 5625 S6/Applications 28-Jul-90 01:09:05 Sb: #spell2.ar Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: [F] sysop (X) I uploaded spell2.ar to dl3 last night. Don't know what I was thinking of, it really should be in library 9. Could you move it over? Thanks, There is 1 Reply. #: 5644 S6/Applications 28-Jul-90 08:58:29 Sb: #5625-spell2.ar Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) No problem Bob, all taken care of. #: 5707 S6/Applications 30-Jul-90 06:34:16 Sb: #5491-Question on PhantomGraph Fm: JOHN TEAGUE 75715,1670 To: Zack Sessions 76407,1524 (X) Thanks for the correction, Zack. I'll give it a try. John #: 5735 S6/Applications 31-Jul-90 21:08:45 Sb: #Dcheck Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Pete, Does Dcheck choke (report problems with disk file structure) when it encounters files with a link count greater than one? I've used the flink program on several dictionary files; that seems to gag Dcheck. Wendell There are 2 Replies. #: 5748 S6/Applications 01-Aug-90 00:34:21 Sb: #5735-#Dcheck Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X) Wendell - if dcheck reports back "sectors already allocated" (or similar) for files with link counts >1, then yah it must not know how to handle them. As long as you can visually note that the sectors it complains about are of filenames linked to the same file, then it's just one of those things . There is 1 Reply. #: 5752 S6/Applications 01-Aug-90 02:39:01 Sb: #5748-Dcheck Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X) Kevin, That's exactly what Dcheck says: "Sectors already allocated." I guess it IS just one of those things. We non-programers (grin) call them bugs. Thanks for the reply. Wendell #: 5757 S6/Applications 01-Aug-90 08:11:32 Sb: #5735-#Dcheck Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X) Wendell - Correct.... dcheck was not designed to deal with unix-like file links. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 5760 S6/Applications 01-Aug-90 14:39:17 Sb: #5757-Dcheck Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Thanks, Pete. I thought that might be the case. Wendell #: 5910 S6/Applications 06-Aug-90 22:59:56 Sb: #what is? Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: 72746,3451 (X) Hew what is vt220? There is 1 Reply. #: 5911 S6/Applications 07-Aug-90 02:11:17 Sb: #5910-what is? Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 (X) It's a terminal made by Digital Equipment Corporation--think of it as "son of VT-100." #: 5943 S6/Applications 08-Aug-90 22:25:20 Sb: Uemacs editor for 6809 Fm: BRETT 72057,3720 To: all Greeting- Get ready for OSK now. I just sent up to dl6 ue.ar It is a termcap driven version of Micro emacs for os9 6809. has multiple windows even over serial lines. I do not have the source, but if you send me email to internet:marob.masa.com!davidge!wa3yre!wynkoop I will tell you who to pester to get the source. 'Course then you must promise to send it to me. -Brett #: 5959 S6/Applications 09-Aug-90 23:31:18 Sb: #ue.ar Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 To: all Please help, I downloaded ue.ar (lib 6?) and cannot get the program to run. I put termcap in /dd/sys and put ue in /dd/cmds with e/pe attributes, but when I type ue it gives me 'unknown tty line' or something similar. I've tried ue -e and ue -t=c3 but it will not work. The termcap entry mentiones something about a cc3io patch for two-byte screen codes, what is this? Is this my problem? It doesn't seem like it would be. Please help. There is 1 Reply. #: 5961 S6/Applications 10-Aug-90 00:14:24 Sb: #5959-#ue.ar Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 (X) Joseph - You should also have a file /dd/sys/ttytypes (or ttytype), and it should have the name of the terminal type for the device you're on, i.e.: /term coco /w1 coco /w2 coco etc.... Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 5968 S6/Applications 10-Aug-90 12:46:01 Sb: #5961-ue.ar Fm: Joseph Cheek 76264,142 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Thanks for the info, I will try creating a sys/ttytypes and see what happens. #: 5994 S6/Applications 11-Aug-90 15:11:17 Sb: Emacs Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 Brett, Is is possible to implement word wrap with the version of MicroEMACS you uploaded to dl 6? Also, can mode be changed? One more thing: procs tells me UE grabs up to 32k of buffer while the internal UE buffers never add up to more than 13 or 14K. Which is right? Or are they both right? I had no problem getting the program to run on an old level two system using a Wyse 50 terminal... even the "cut and paste" from one window (file) to another (file). Other than that, the program works VERY nicely. Wendell p.s. I'm using it now instead of DynaStar. #: 6034 S6/Applications 12-Aug-90 16:50:39 Sb: #ue and termcap Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451 To: 76703,4230 (X) Pete - I have tried to run the new ue uploaded recently. If i have a file called "ttytype" in my /dd/sys ue runs but does not display or handle keyboard correctly. If i rename the file ttytypes it tells me "unknown tty line!" the contents of the file (in either case) is: term vt52 t1 vt52 What do you suggest? There is 1 Reply. #: 6090 S6/Applications 13-Aug-90 08:11:55 Sb: #6034-ue and termcap Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 (X) Greg - The /dd/sys/ttytype file should be in the format: /Term vt100 /T1 wyse50 /t3 coco3 ...etc... No leading spaces, either. Also - do you have a termcap file in /dd/sys, and does it have a matching terminal entry for a vt52? Pete #: 6188 S6/Applications 17-Aug-90 23:30:30 Sb: #MicroEMACS Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Kevin, I've been trying to figure out how the new upload MicroEmacs works...with less than overwhelming success. For instance: why does the program grab an 11k buffer (according to PROCS) that's not initially reflected in the program's internal buffer menu? Correspondingly, why does UE max out internally at about 16k when PROCS says more than 32k of buffer space is involved? In the same vein, when I tear apart the UE code there's some mention of VIRTUAL MEMORY. But, for the life of me I can't find any Virtual Memory involved. Of course, I know less than nothing about Virtual Memory (grin). Am I making any sense? Or, am I so far in over my head I'm not aware that I'm drowning? Wendell There are 2 Replies. #: 6189 S6/Applications 18-Aug-90 03:16:03 Sb: #6188-MicroEMACS Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X) Got me Wendell... I haven't had a chance to see it yet. Hopefully someone else will back up and see if they know the answers for you. #: 6251 S6/Applications 21-Aug-90 14:36:33 Sb: #6188-MicroEMACS Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 Wendell, I'm just guessing, (I haven't had a chance to do anything with UE except try it out) but I suspect that UE requires 11K for its data area (OUCH!) prior to setting up the text buffer area. This might also be a large stack requirement which adds to the data area in a C program. It might be that the program, being written for a machine with lots more memory available, had lots of local variables (which require stack space), and it gets even worse if there are recursive function calls. I have no idea what "virtual memory" in UE is, it might mean spilling off to a temporary disk file when the memory buffer fills up, but I doubt this version has that capability. Bill #: 6196 S6/Applications 18-Aug-90 18:41:01 Sb: #HARDware Fm: Richard Ries 76057,3534 To: Kevin Darling I'm trying to get a Coco3 with OS9 LII to communicate with a 6809 trainer board. Using BASIC09, I can write to the trainer so that it understands what I'm saying. BUT, when I try to reply from the trainer, all I get is garbage. Am I missing something? (I've checked the returning messages baud rate, and it is correct (600 ) as far as I can tell with an O'scope. B09 routine follows: PROCEDURE testt1 dim path:integer dim key:string[1] open #path,"/t1":update loop print "> " \ (* reminder *) repeat \ run inkey(key) \ until key<>"" print #path,"1I0" \ (* code for trainer *) repeat get #path,key\ ? key; until key=chr$(0d) \ (* wait for CR *) endloop end Any ideas?? Rich There are 2 Replies. #: 6199 S6/Applications 18-Aug-90 19:38:11 Sb: #6196-HARDware Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Richard Ries 76057,3534 What does the trainer expect to see on the serial line? If it's something reasonable to have a human type, then the simplest hack would be to use a terminal program to communicate with it. (I'd be tempted to try that initially just for the heck of it.) If there's some sort of more complicated protocol involved, you're likely to have to write a special program to do it. Be sure you have the number of data and stop bits right as well as the baud rate. #: 6200 S6/Applications 18-Aug-90 19:38:34 Sb: #6196-HARDware Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Richard Ries 76057,3534 Rich - /t1 (being software driven) makes an almost impossible input serial port... however, go check out BANGER.AR in Lib 10 here, and see if that allows you to use that port. Else you'll need to use a real serial port (RS232 card or equiv). Let me know what happens! - kev #: 6198 S6/Applications 18-Aug-90 19:16:17 Sb: #ue - termcap Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451 To: Lyall Pete - I have the files set up the way you suggested, but no dice. ue does not seem to understand either a vt100 or a vt52 terminal. There is 1 Reply. #: 6212 S6/Applications 19-Aug-90 22:45:41 Sb: #6198-ue - termcap Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 Greg - You have a /dd/sys/termcap and a /dd/sys/ttytype[s] file, and the termcap file has an entry for VT100 and the appropriate /t? line is tagged as being a VT100 and it still doesn't work? Pete #: 6270 S6/Applications 22-Aug-90 02:04:26 Sb: #6251-MicroEMACS Fm: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Thanks, Bill. Wendell #: 6287 S6/Applications 23-Aug-90 21:16:16 Sb: #ue and termcap Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451 To: lyall yes. ue will run, but it wont process keystrokes properly. }iof course i cant read "termcap", but i assume from the what i do read that it defines a vt52 cursor up as ESC-A etc. here is my /dd/sys/ttydefs file: Addr 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C D E F 0 2 4 6 8 A C E ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---------------0000 2F74 6572 6D20 7674 3130 300D 2F74 3120 /term vt100./t1 0010 7674 3532 0D vt52. sorry that is not ttydefs it is ttytype. do you need to see my termcap? it is the same as the dist kit. There is 1 Reply. #: 6291 S6/Applications 24-Aug-90 12:39:41 Sb: #6287-ue and termcap Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Greg Morse 72746,3451 Hmmm.... maybe the VT52 entry isn't optimal... want me to nab one from Berzerkely 4.3 and mail it to you? Pete P.S. Nice 'address' BTW.... [i.e. 'lyall' w/o a PPN].... #: 6311 S6/Applications 25-Aug-90 20:35:27 Sb: #6199-#HARDware Fm: Richard Ries 76057,3534 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) It's pretty simple (what the trainer expects on the serial line). The difficulty lies in getting BASIC09 to read back /t1 properly. I've had some problems using XTERM, which is the only commo pgm I know of that can access the bit- banger port. Rich There is 1 Reply. #: 6331 S6/Applications 26-Aug-90 23:03:24 Sb: #6311-#HARDware Fm: edward langenback 73510,145 To: Richard Ries 76057,3534 (X) need a comm program to access the bit banger? check out BANGER.AR in dl10, it has a drive that uses the bit banger and replacement /t1 & /t2 descriptors to use with it. it works, a little jerky in its action, but it does work. "KMA-68!!" >>>>>S S<<<<< !!!!!!!!!!!!! There is 1 Reply. #: 6406 S6/Applications 30-Aug-90 21:50:37 Sb: #6331-HARDware Fm: Richard Ries 76057,3534 To: edward langenback 73510,145 (X) I'll check it out this weekend. Thanks, Rich #: 6312 S6/Applications 25-Aug-90 20:38:00 Sb: #6200-HARDware Fm: Richard Ries 76057,3534 To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X) Yeah, I'm starting to see just how difficult! I'll check out banger, however. I was hoping to keep my real 232 port free to talk with you guys, but I guess I shouldn't be so lazy ! Rich #: 6316 S6/Applications 26-Aug-90 04:37:24 Sb: #OS9 Profile Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: All Does anyone know how to get OS9 Profile to work under OS9 Level II? I would like to use this program in an 80 column window and was wondering what I need to put in my OSBoot file. The original Profile OS9Boot file has these modules in it: IOMan,RBF,CCDisk,D0,D1,SCF,RS232,T1,PRINTER,P,CCIO,CO32,TERM,PIPEMAN,Piper,Clock,SysGo,Shell. Which modules do I need to put in my new boot file? Thanks for the help! George There is 1 Reply. #: 6317 S6/Applications 26-Aug-90 05:14:39 Sb: #6316-#OS9 Profile Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 (X) Do a browse/key=profile in DL10; you should find the necessary patches there. There is 1 Reply. #: 6336 S6/Applications 27-Aug-90 10:44:05 Sb: #6317-OS9 Profile Fm: George Hendrickson 71071,2003 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Thanks for the info! #: 6412 S6/Applications 30-Aug-90 23:34:02 Sb: #6291-ue and termcap Fm: Greg Morse 72746,3451 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) OH. The old s/w would complain if it didn't know what the name meant. I'll do ppn's from here. any help would be appreciated if it is not to much trouble, yes i'd like a vt52 and vt100 entry. thanks - greg. #: 6499 S6/Applications 03-Sep-90 20:57:22 Sb: #5994-Emacs Fm: BRETT 72057,3720 To: Wendell Benedetti 72766,2605 (X) Greeting- I direct all questions about Microemacs to Simmy Turner. I do not have the source as I said in the readme. I know nothing about the internals, or what features are implemented. the info I posted with it is all I have. Most of that was found experamently. If you want more info contact Simmy and then pass it along for everyone else. See if you can shake the source out of him. I am sure there are folks on the forum who could improve on what is already there if they had the code. -Brett #: 6795 S6/Applications 19-Sep-90 21:44:58 Sb: #microemacs bug Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 To: all Greeting- I have found a bug in the version of microemacs for 6809 that I posted. I do not know how to fix it, but I do know the work around. ue will crash the entire system if the sun termcap entry is used. I guess it causes a pointer to go to never never land or something. Since I have no source code the only thing to be done is remove the sun termcap entry and not use a Sun as a terminal for your coco if you want to use microemacs. -Brett There is 1 Reply. #: 6809 S6/Applications 20-Sep-90 07:47:08 Sb: #6795-#microemacs bug Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 (X) Brett, Is it a bug in Uemacs or is it yet another example of the problems with the somewhat flaky implementation of termcaps on the 6809? Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 6818 S6/Applications 20-Sep-90 18:33:09 Sb: #6809-#microemacs bug Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Greeting- I can not say for sure, all I can say is that I narrowed my system crashes down to every time I started Uemacs using my sun as the terminal. I even set the tty for /w1 to be a sun and it did the same thing, so it is not serial line related. Simmy could probably answer the question as he is the only one with source for the 6809 version that has termcap support I hear tell the source for the non termcap version is on delphi. For now delete the sun termcap entry. I am going to expariment with a shorter bare bones sun termcap and see if that works. -Brett There is 1 Reply. #: 6838 S6/Applications 21-Sep-90 07:33:19 Sb: #6818-microemacs bug Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 Brett, That's a good approach (bare bones entry). I've hosed my system with the model 100 entry and a few others. In fact, I held my breath just recently changing the entry on /t2 from TVI910 to Wy50 but all went well. Keep us posted. BTW ... did you get my note to you (via uucp) about your mailer? Steve #: 7123 S6/Applications 02-Oct-90 09:54:28 Sb: #6838-#microemacs bug Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Greeting- I just got somewhere with the Sun termcap thing! Use the vt100 termcap entry. It works for sun shelltool windows just fine. I just added sun to the |vt100|d0| section of the entry. Funny thing is I never had trouble with my model 100 entry. Strange. Simmy HELP! -Brett There is 1 Reply. #: 7147 S6/Applications 03-Oct-90 07:40:24 Sb: #7123-#microemacs bug Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 (X) Thanks for the info, Brett. I quake in my boots anytime I have to change anything these days on the CoCo. I'm not sure which is worse ... new bootfiles or termcap entries. Say ... (on another topic) how 'bout a breif discourse on your Os9 list thing? Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 7290 S6/Applications 11-Oct-90 20:16:07 Sb: #7147-#microemacs bug Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) ~ Greeting- The os9 list is a mailing list that originates on usenet via my COCO3 running uucp. It is not full featured yet, but what happens is if someone sends mail to ....marob!davidge!wa3yre!os9 the message is ransmitted to all subscribers on the list. I guess it must be getting to CIS if you are commenting. This is the second set of uucp utilities and enahncements that I am working on now. Everyone who gets the uucp archive will probably see some of my code in both stand alone utilities and in parts of the rest. That is of course if /\/\ark did not give my code the axe in final QC. I started the os9 mailing list because of service problems with the coco mailing list. I think with the new OSK machines out and with uucp out finaly after 3 years (Not Marks fault) we need an os9 mailing list especialy since not everyone has access to the comp.os.os9 news group from usenet. As soon as I get news going on the unix box at work I will work on redistributing comp.os.os9 to the os9 mailing list. If anyone wants on the list just drop mail to me at ......marob!davidge!wa3yre!wynkoop and I will add you. It may take a few days because I have not automated the process yet. BTW STEVE when are you going to make a posting? -Brett There are 2 Replies. #: 7297 S6/Applications 11-Oct-90 22:16:57 Sb: #7290-#microemacs bug Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 (X) I really think that some of the redistribution needs to go the other way. Eric Tilenius siphoned off a lot of traffic that would otherwise have gone to comp.os.os9 and comp.sys.m6809, and there's no way a random CoCo user with USENET access would have any idea that the BITNET mailing list even exists. At the *very* least, there ought to be some regular posting to the newsgroups that tells people how to get to the mailing list. (For that matter, lack of use is a good way to make a newsgroup a candidate for extinction.) There is 1 Reply. #: 7327 S6/Applications 13-Oct-90 09:05:03 Sb: #7297-#microemacs bug Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) ~ Greeting- I agree we need to get some stuff going in comp.os.os9. I will look into sending the os9 mailing list there after I get news going on my machine at the office. In the mean time I guess I will post something to comp.os.os9 about the list. I started the os9 mailing list out of self defense at first. There was no life in comp.os.os9 and I had been dropped from the coco list and after a month of trying could still not get on. BTW JJ do you want to be added to the os9 mailing list? I think I have your uucp address somewhere. You can post to the list by send ing mail to .....marob!davidge!wa3yre!os9 -Brett There is 1 Reply. #: 7338 S6/Applications 13-Oct-90 14:23:58 Sb: #7327-#microemacs bug Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 (X) Please do put me on the list. It's uunet!mcrware!jejones. Glad to hear that you'll check out forwarding mailing list stuff to comp.os.os9; traffic has picked up a bit recently, but it's likely to fade out soon. There is 1 Reply. #: 7448 S6/Applications 16-Oct-90 22:07:46 Sb: #7338-microemacs bug Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) ~ Greeting- James Please send me mail via usenet so I can get a good return path to you. -Brett uucp.............hombre!marob!davidge!wa3yre!wynkoop #: 7334 S6/Applications 13-Oct-90 10:24:01 Sb: #7290-#microemacs bug Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 (X) Brett, Actually I was just waiting for more information ... and you'd just given it! Next step is for me to subscribe ... as soon as I decide exactly how I wish to go about this (use the CIS account or perhaps via rewop). Keep an eye out. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 7444 S6/Applications 16-Oct-90 20:55:14 Sb: #7334-#microemacs bug Fm: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Greeting- Check your cis mail box. I put both you and Paul ward on in the beginning. You should see a few messages from the server already. -Brett There is 1 Reply. #: 7495 S6/Applications 17-Oct-90 22:43:29 Sb: #7444-microemacs bug Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Brett Wynkoop 72057,3720 Will do Brett. #: 7267 S6/Applications 09-Oct-90 22:40:08 Sb: #Multivue Fm: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721 To: all I'm trying to get Basic09 running on Multivue using an AIF. I've got a Coco 3 with 512k. My problem is when I click on the aif icon, a type 2 window comes up. This is what I want, but after the window comes up I get an error 115followed by an error 043. Then the Basic09 prompt comes up and everything seems to work normally. However, the Basic09 title doesn't come up either...just the error messages. I have runb, syscall, and inkey in my cmds dir. this is what my Aif looks like: Basic09 /r0/cmds/icons/icon.demo 0 2 80 24 0 1 Does anyone know why I'm getting the error message? If I run B09 from a shell made by gshell it works fine. Dave There is 1 Reply. #: 7271 S6/Applications 10-Oct-90 06:03:56 Sb: #7267-#Multivue Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 To: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721 (X) It sounds like the parameter line in the AIF (line 2) contains something. Whatever is there, Multi-Vue will pass it to Basic09 as a parameter, even if it is just a space. Basic09 will then attempt to load and run the program. Floyd There are 2 Replies. #: 7286 S6/Applications 11-Oct-90 02:18:17 Sb: #7271-#Multivue Fm: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721 To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X) Thanks for the info....any idea how I can correct the situation?. Should I specify a B09 program to load on line 2 then just get rid of it when it comes up? Oh well, as long as it doesn't affect its performance, I guess I can live with the error messages!! Thanks again for your help!! Dave There is 1 Reply. #: 7292 S6/Applications 11-Oct-90 20:44:03 Sb: #7286-#Multivue Fm: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 To: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721 (X) You can edit the file with the edit program supplied with OS9. After entering the editor, go to line 2 of the file and type: c/ // This will change the space character into a null. Floyd There is 1 Reply. #: 7295 S6/Applications 11-Oct-90 21:33:23 Sb: #7292-Multivue Fm: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721 To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X) Thanks Floyd...I was able to make the change with SLED. My problems now deal with the color problems with SLED and the memory loss after quitting programs. Dave #: 7287 S6/Applications 11-Oct-90 06:25:53 Sb: #7271-Multivue Fm: DAVID DE FEO 71630,721 To: Floyd Resler 72500,2572 (X) Floyd... I just found the problem. When I made the aif files, I used the build command and in order to get an empty line you have to press the space bar and then enter. I guess the space made by the space bar was taken to be a program parameter, hence the error messages. I used sled and finally cleared it up... which brings up a couple of other questions: 1) SLED doesn't seem to follow the 16 palette colors, it only uses the first 2 colors on the first line of colors. I know that the status flags' colors are already set, but why don't the edit window colors(back and fore) change? 2) Once multivue establishes a window for a process (like sled, shell, or B09) does it deiniz those windows after the programs are quit. For some reason, every ttime I quit a windowed program, mfree shows me to have less memory than I should, corresponding to the mem size of the window...usually type2-4k. When I quit, I either press ctrl-brk(for sled and shell) or "bye" for B09. Everything disappears as they should. Only the mem from the windows doesn't return. Should I be quitting these progs some other way? Oops--I quit sled with ctrl-q. Well, thanks again for your help! Dave #: 7455 S6/Applications 17-Oct-90 01:03:41 Sb: #SmartWatch Fm: DAVID HENSLEY 73030,3717 To: ALL Does anyone know how to access the Tandy SmartWatch from RSDOS? I have the drivers for OS9, but cant understand them when dissassembled. If Dave ZHensley Hensley There is 1 Reply. #: 7457 S6/Applications 17-Oct-90 02:06:54 Sb: #7455-SmartWatch Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: DAVID HENSLEY 73030,3717 Dave - hmm. I'd look for any section that appears to be swapping in the Basic ROMs (?) to enable access to the SmartWatch. I'm afraid I'm not much help here. Perhaps someone else can point you to some commented source code. Luck! #: 7600 S6/Applications 20-Oct-90 10:01:46 Sb: #cron help Fm: Ted Miller 76545,457 To: 76703,4230 (X) Hello Pete; I recently downloaded your cron utility and have experienced a problem with it. I made a simple test crontab file and put it in both /dd/sys and /r0/sys directories as per instructions. Then when I invoke cron (cron -l&) it starts fine and a proc shows it running. However when cron first wakes up to read crontab it errors out and exits. A listing of /dd/log/cronerrs shows cron error: cannot open /r0/sys/crontab. My crontab file consists of "30 * * * * list startup>/p&". What am I doing wrong? BTW I am using a Coco 3 with 512k and normally startup with gshell. Ident for cron: Header for: Cron Module size: $038D #909 Module CRC: $CAF6EF (Good) Hdr parity: $A3 Exec. off: $00A4 #164 Data Size: $0200 #512 Edition: $05 #5 Ty/La At/Rv: $11 $84 Prog mod, 6809 obj, re-en, R/O Hope you can shed some light Ted Miller There are 2 Replies. #: 7609 S6/Applications 20-Oct-90 20:03:38 Sb: #7600-#cron help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Ted Miller 76545,457 (X) Nothing jumps out at me.... are there other problems like a shortage of system RAM? Too many open paths? Do you have the latest version of CRON from here? Also, try running with just a /dd/sys/crontab file (or just an /r0/sys/crontab)... Pete #: 7622 S6/Applications 21-Oct-90 03:21:14 Sb: #7600-#cron help Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: Ted Miller 76545,457 (X) Hi Ted! I'm using 'cron' on a regular basis. I did an ident on my copy and it is different from yours. Size is 0378 and the CRC is D7AB49. This is different than what you reported. Your hardware setup is similar to mine but I use shell+ rather than Gshell but I can't see that would make a difference. Hopefully, if Pete sees this, he can check to see if the correct version is posted. And Pete, I've used several of your programs and they are *GREAT*. Very happy with them. Ed #: 7631 S6/Applications 21-Oct-90 16:51:47 Sb: #7609-#cron help Fm: Ted Miller 76545,457 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Hi Pete; Thanks for the response. I just found the problem. I have a Ramdisk in my bootfile that is a rewrite of Kevin Darlings 'Rammer' that is supposed to work on any 6809 system. Apparently cron doesn't like this ramdisk for when I rebooted with KD's rammer in the bootfile cron worked just as advertised. I guess there isn't any point in wondering why. Anyways thanks for the utility. Ted Miller There is 1 Reply. #: 7648 S6/Applications 22-Oct-90 08:06:11 Sb: #7631-cron help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Ted Miller 76545,457 (X) Great... sounds as if something on the 'enhanced' RAMDISK caused a proble with file opening. Pete #: 7632 S6/Applications 21-Oct-90 16:52:53 Sb: #7622-#cron help Fm: Ted Miller 76545,457 To: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 (X) Hello Ed; Thanks for the response. The problem was not with cron per se but with the ramdisk software I was using. This driver is a rewrite of Kevin Darlings 'Rammer' by Ken Drexler that is supposed to be non Coco specific. For some reason cron doesn't recognize this ramdisk and also somehow prevents cron from recognizing /dd/sys/crontab. Once I re-installed 'Rammer' cron worked just as it should. Do you know of any other PD ramdisk software I could try. I find 'Rammer' a bit of a pain to use (no slight meant against KD) in that one first has to format it to start up and then clear everything out and do innumerable deiniz's to get the memory back Ted Miller There is 1 Reply. #: 7643 S6/Applications 22-Oct-90 01:27:22 Sb: #7632-cron help Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: Ted Miller 76545,457 (X) Ted, Sorry, I use the RAM set-up provided by Tandy in the Development Package - It is expensive but does not have to formatted. I have no knowledge of the others. Suggest you check with Kevin Darling and maybe go back to his original. His stuff is very good and if a bug occurs, he usually takes care of it. Good luck, Ed #: 7977 S6/Applications 04-Nov-90 06:40:11 Sb: #DynaForm woes Fm: Mike Passer 72750,420 To: All Hello! I've been using DynaStar for quite some time now, and really enjoy editing with it. However, up 'til now, I've never had need to _underline_ anything! Whatever I do, I can't seem to get DynaStar (v. 3.4) to underline properly. When I defined ".UL" and ".UE" in df.init with the values for the IBM mode of a Tandy DMP 132, the printer switched to proportional on the first occurence of an underline command. When I switched to Tandy mode on the printer (and to Tandy values in df.init), nothing at all happened when an underline command was encountered. When I tried to get rid of the ".UL" and ".UE" altogether and let DynaForm try to do it with cursor controls (as in the manual), I got underscore characters _over_ what I was trying to underline. Anyone else had this problem? Anyone overcome it? I'd appreciate any insight anyone out there has. Thanks, Mike Passer [72750,420] There is 1 Reply. #: 7981 S6/Applications 04-Nov-90 10:41:14 Sb: #7977-#DynaForm woes Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Mike Passer 72750,420 (X) Mike - The approach I used to use was to use an external text formatter. I used 'text' by Computerware, but there's Mroff here in the libs that should be able to do pretty much the same thing. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 7983 S6/Applications 04-Nov-90 10:47:58 Sb: #7981-#DynaForm woes Fm: Mike Passer 72750,420 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Pete, So there's nothing I'm doing wrong with DynaForm -- it's just flaky? I have mroff and thought about going that route, but it's disappointing that I can't do it the _simple_ way... but, then... I could rename mroff's module name to Df, then I could still use the Print option from within DynaStar... hmmm! Thanks! Mike Passer #: 7987 S6/Applications 04-Nov-90 12:56:47 Sb: #Overchoice - DOS world Fm: Art Doyle 71565,262 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Hi Pete! I need some sound advice from someone you can reason along strict engineering cost/benefit criteria - someone like you. I require a means of demonstrating a Dos program which is capable of running several types of electronic instruments under RS-232 or GPIB (IEEE 488.2). This product would be portable and must support either CGA or EGA graphics and I am skeptical that a hard-drive could survive the "banging around" the unit would receive under field use. A floppy based lap-top can be had for <$700, a 80286 plasma lunch-box goes for < $1500 and a 80386 machine would exceed $2400... Given the fact that the 80386 unit could run DOS,UNIX or OS-9000 - could you express some OPINIONS as to which option would be most appropriate? After 3+ hours of scanning the "Computer Shopper" I am thoroughly confused. This PC market is a real mess. How can one tell if the product is truly capatible with the standard IBM system? Bewildered, Art Press !>1 does, I'd suspect. Are there any generic Orch players around under rsdos that could be hacked? Or does everyone use the ROM? (I don't know much about Orch-90 stuff, sorry) - kev There is 1 Reply. #: 8055 S6/Applications 07-Nov-90 06:04:43 Sb: ue Fm: Dan Charrois 70721,1506 To: all I just downloaded ue.ar, and from what I've seen, it looks pretty interesting. I am wondering if any docs exist on how to use it - I suppose it could be painstakingly figured out using trial-and-error, but I know there must be docs around here somewhere. Perhaps in the old version which is mentioned in the current archive?? Does anyone have any idea? Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. #: 8288 S6/Applications 18-Nov-90 10:14:48 Sb: #HELP... Fm: MICHAEL ROSEN 73340,2756 To: KEVIN DARLING THANKS A LOT KEVIN,THE PROGRAN I DOWNLOADED WAS THE UNARCHING PROGRAM...I WULD LIKE TO GET A OS-9 TERMINAL PROGRAM RUNNING TO MAKE LIFE EASIER... I HOPE I'LL EVENTUALLY GET OS-9 FIGURED OUT I BELIVE IT WONT BE HARD AS SOON AS I LEARN ALL THE COMMANDS AND LITTLE TRICKS (IF ANY).. THANKS AGAIN, MICHAEL ROSEN 73340,2756 There is 1 Reply. #: 8306 S6/Applications 18-Nov-90 18:10:14 Sb: #8288-#HELP... Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: MICHAEL ROSEN 73340,2756 (X) Michael - Right you are: it gets much easier over time, and with more utils (the same as with any computer)! And we'll give help wherever you need it. Okay, I'll assume that you have made an rsdos disk readable, and the disk has AR09.BIN on it (and that you modem'd it down in binary, not ascii mode!). Ummm, I guess we need to know how many disk drives you have; it'll make things much easier if you have two (and 512K!). I'll go on the assumption that you have two drives (correct me if you have only one drive). 1. "load dir copy" (to make sure they're in). 2. Place an os9 disk with some room on it in /d1. 3. Place the rsdos/os9 disk in /d0. 4. "copy /d0/ar09.bin /d1/ar" (this copies the file to os9 disk) 5. Put your original CMDS disk back in /d0. 6. "attr /d1/ar e pe w" (this makes it executable and deleteable). 7. If you wish (and have room), "copy /d1/ar /d0/cmds/ar" Or, just "load /d1/ar" whenever you need it. (cont'd in reply) There is 1 Reply. #: 8307 S6/Applications 18-Nov-90 18:10:36 Sb: #8306-HELP... Fm: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 To: Kevin Darling (UG Pres) 76703,4227 (X) (cont'd) Ar is now ready to use. Let's say you downloaded STERM1.AR and TRMCAP.AR from Lib 7 for a term program. To break out STERM1.AR, you'd do this: 1. Copy the file to a real os9 disk (see steps 1-5 in previous msg). For example, "copy /d0/sterm1.ar /d1/sterm1.ar" 2. "chd" to wherever you want the unarchived files to go, for example: "makdir /d1/STERM" "chd /d1/sterm" 3. Give ar the extract command, using a full pathname: "ar -x /d1/sterm1.ar" The files should end up in the /D1/STERM directory. Some you will have to make executable (with Attr), some you can just List (like the docs). Note: if ar reports files coming out, but you get an error at the end, first look to see if you got all the files the docs said you should. If so, ignore the error... it's just modem padding on the end of the file. Oh, and Ar expects an archive file to have ".ar" as the end of its name. If you need to, just rename the file ("rename /d1/stermdownload sterm1.ar"). This will all become second nature to you after a coupla times, of course. Anything you don't understand, just let us know. best - kev PS* also read msg 8305. #: 8366 S6/Applications 21-Nov-90 13:43:55 Sb: cron Fm: Tom Napolitano 70215,1130 To: 70325,523 (X) Bill, In his message (#8248) to me, Pete Lyall suggested I get current source code for his cron from you or Kent Meyers. Could you upload it? I need it to customized to my system. Thanks, tom n